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California Progressives seek to provide more rewards to illegal aliens

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Democrats push to extend health, legal rights to immigrants

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Responding to federal inaction over immigration reform, California Democrats on Tuesday announced a package of 10 bills that would extend health care, legal rights and business protection to immigrants who are illegally living in the state.

Assembly Speaker Toni Atkins, D-San Diego, and Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, led the majority party's push to expand health coverage to all Californians, regardless of their immigration status, although they are not proposing any funding to pay for the extensions.

"Today we remind the rest of the nation that California is different," de Leon said at a news conference in Sacramento attended by immigrant-rights advocates and families with members in the country illegally.

Democrats who control the governor's office and both chambers of the Legislature have said they want to find ways for immigrants to come out of the state's economic shadows. The 10 bills were previously introduced, but they were touted Tuesday by supporters for advancing immigrants' rights.


Should California Progressives in control of the government be rewarding illegal aliens at the expense of US citizens living in the state? What should minorities do to counter the tremendous economic harm illegal aliens have caused them, given Progressives apparently are no longer interested in them?
 
"Today we remind the rest of the nation that California is different"

He got that right.
 
"Today we remind the rest of the nation that California is different"

He got that right.

I used to suggest these actions were just another nail in the coffin for California. It would seem they have loaded a pneumatic nail gun, and are plugging in rounds as fast as they can pull the trigger.

I'm truly interested to understand how much longer minorities being pushed aside will be willing to vote for these Progressive Democrats who clearly want them in the back of the bus again.
 
Democrats push to extend health, legal rights to immigrants

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Responding to federal inaction over immigration reform, California Democrats on Tuesday announced a package of 10 bills that would extend health care, legal rights and business protection to immigrants who are illegally living in the state.

Assembly Speaker Toni Atkins, D-San Diego, and Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, led the majority party's push to expand health coverage to all Californians, regardless of their immigration status, although they are not proposing any funding to pay for the extensions.

"Today we remind the rest of the nation that California is different," de Leon said at a news conference in Sacramento attended by immigrant-rights advocates and families with members in the country illegally.

Democrats who control the governor's office and both chambers of the Legislature have said they want to find ways for immigrants to come out of the state's economic shadows. The 10 bills were previously introduced, but they were touted Tuesday by supporters for advancing immigrants' rights.


Should California Progressives in control of the government be rewarding illegal aliens at the expense of US citizens living in the state? What should minorities do to counter the tremendous economic harm illegal aliens have caused them, given Progressives apparently are no longer interested in them?

So the hole isn't deep enough yet, and they've got aims to dig it even deeper yet?

Where else but in the land of fruits and nuts does this logic apply.
Where else but only there is making the problem bigger and more expensive considered 'progress'?
 
So the hole isn't deep enough yet, and they've got aims to dig it even deeper yet?

Where else but in the land of fruits and nuts does this logic apply.
Where else but only there is making the problem bigger and more expensive considered 'progress'?

The lesson is that California represents exactly what Progressives want to do to the country. It should be viewed as their vision for the future of the United States.

Big percentages of the people on welfare. Failed education, rampant crime, high unemployment, business killing regulations, exploited minorities, the list goes on and on.

This is Progressivism defined. California is an example of the end game. It's not mid-experiment, so the results of their actions are still coming together. It is mature reality.

Everyone should look at California and decide if that is what they want for the rest of the country, and then vote accordingly.
 
What a damn mess.
 
Democrats push to extend health, legal rights to immigrants

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Responding to federal inaction over immigration reform, California Democrats on Tuesday announced a package of 10 bills that would extend health care, legal rights and business protection to immigrants who are illegally living in the state.

Assembly Speaker Toni Atkins, D-San Diego, and Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, led the majority party's push to expand health coverage to all Californians, regardless of their immigration status, although they are not proposing any funding to pay for the extensions.

"Today we remind the rest of the nation that California is different," de Leon said at a news conference in Sacramento attended by immigrant-rights advocates and families with members in the country illegally.

Democrats who control the governor's office and both chambers of the Legislature have said they want to find ways for immigrants to come out of the state's economic shadows. The 10 bills were previously introduced, but they were touted Tuesday by supporters for advancing immigrants' rights.


Should California Progressives in control of the government be rewarding illegal aliens at the expense of US citizens living in the state? What should minorities do to counter the tremendous economic harm illegal aliens have caused them, given Progressives apparently are no longer interested in them?

Those "illegals" have been rewarding the State for many years (20 or more in some cases) with cheap labor. It is about time they got something back.
 
The lesson is that California represents exactly what Progressives want to do to the country. It should be viewed as their vision for the future of the United States.

Big percentages of the people on welfare. Failed education, rampant crime, high unemployment, business killing regulations, exploited minorities, the list goes on and on.

This is Progressivism defined. California is an example of the end game. It's not mid-experiment, so the results of their actions are still coming together. It is mature reality.

Everyone should look at California and decide if that is what they want for the rest of the country, and then vote accordingly.

Yup. Pretty much.

What gets me is the continual redefinition of 'success' so that they can claim it for their failed and failing initiatives, and also that many of the sheeple swallow this crap hook line and sinker. Utterly amazing, in a very bad way.
 
Those "illegals" have been rewarding the State for many years (20 or more in some cases) with cheap labor. It is about time they got something back.

LOL

Complete fantasy. They have been costing taxpayers billions every year. Sorry, but the lies about illegals benefiting California are well known. They only fly among those who don't care about those who have been most seriously impacted by the illegals.
 
Yup. Pretty much.

What gets me is the continual redefinition of 'success' so that they can claim it for their failed and failing initiatives, and also that many of the sheeple swallow this crap hook line and sinker. Utterly amazing, in a very bad way.

I remain amazed that the cast offs of Progressives in the Black and other minority communities haven't raised up to fight back against this new oppression by them. One would think the generations of broken promises would be enough.
 
I remain amazed that the cast offs of Progressives in the Black and other minority communities haven't raised up to fight back against this new oppression by them. One would think the generations of broken promises would be enough.

Hmm. Would that group include people like Sharpton and Jackson then? 'cause if so, I think the answer would be pretty clear.
 
Hmm. Would that group include people like Sharpton and Jackson then? 'cause if so, I think the answer would be pretty clear.

You have a point. Perhaps it's quiet because they're working on how they can extract money from something called "truth". I would think that would be a difficult task for them.
 
The lesson is that California represents exactly what Progressives want to do to the country. It should be viewed as their vision for the future of the United States.

Big percentages of the people on welfare. Failed education, rampant crime, high unemployment, business killing regulations, exploited minorities, the list goes on and on.

This is Progressivism defined. California is an example of the end game. It's not mid-experiment, so the results of their actions are still coming together. It is mature reality.

Everyone should look at California and decide if that is what they want for the rest of the country, and then vote accordingly.

Greetings, ocean515. :2wave:

How do you reach the "guy and gal on the street?" Most do not visit sites like this where facts are presented, and pros and cons are debated - they go by what they hear on TV. There is the further problem of those not wanting to give up the help they receive in the form of food stamps and other government assistance just to stay alive in most, but not all cases. Just another example of government creating the problem then offering a way to correct it. Add in victimhood and racism, which are encouraged by those with an agenda, and this is what follows. If this is supposedly agreeable to those that have to pay for it, why are so many businesses fleeing California for more tax friendly States? Do your legislators at the State level also exempt themselves from the things the rest of the people have to put up with, like they do in DC? California is a beautiful State, scenery-wise, but tourists can't be counted on to pay all the bills that are coming due, and there are more and more all the time not paying taxes, which will eventually require a massive federal bailout, IMO. That will anger those States, and its citizens, that are trying to live within their budgets, and rightfully so. Another step on the way down to the bottom, I guess.
 
You have a point. Perhaps it's quiet because they're working on how they can extract money from something called "truth". I would think that would be a difficult task for them.

Well, we just got done with Ferguson, that choking case in Yew York. (Probably some other I"m not remembering). All those financial expenditures have to be absorbed and back filled before there's another major push such as those.
 
Democrats push to extend health, legal rights to immigrants

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Responding to federal inaction over immigration reform, California Democrats on Tuesday announced a package of 10 bills that would extend health care, legal rights and business protection to immigrants who are illegally living in the state.

Assembly Speaker Toni Atkins, D-San Diego, and Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, led the majority party's push to expand health coverage to all Californians, regardless of their immigration status, although they are not proposing any funding to pay for the extensions.

"Today we remind the rest of the nation that California is different," de Leon said at a news conference in Sacramento attended by immigrant-rights advocates and families with members in the country illegally.

Democrats who control the governor's office and both chambers of the Legislature have said they want to find ways for immigrants to come out of the state's economic shadows. The 10 bills were previously introduced, but they were touted Tuesday by supporters for advancing immigrants' rights.


Should California Progressives in control of the government be rewarding illegal aliens at the expense of US citizens living in the state? What should minorities do to counter the tremendous economic harm illegal aliens have caused them, given Progressives apparently are no longer interested in them?

Considering the big ado about Arizona trying to usurp government power of immigration I see this as no different. In fact it goes AGAINST Federal law by essentially making illegal aliens legal in the state of California. Which they do not have the power to do. Only the Feds have that power.

However you won't hear a peep from Obama or Holder about this.
 
Democrats push to extend health, legal rights to immigrants

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Responding to federal inaction over immigration reform, California Democrats on Tuesday announced a package of 10 bills that would extend health care, legal rights and business protection to immigrants who are illegally living in the state.

Assembly Speaker Toni Atkins, D-San Diego, and Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, led the majority party's push to expand health coverage to all Californians, regardless of their immigration status, although they are not proposing any funding to pay for the extensions.

"Today we remind the rest of the nation that California is different," de Leon said at a news conference in Sacramento attended by immigrant-rights advocates and families with members in the country illegally.

Democrats who control the governor's office and both chambers of the Legislature have said they want to find ways for immigrants to come out of the state's economic shadows. The 10 bills were previously introduced, but they were touted Tuesday by supporters for advancing immigrants' rights.


Should California Progressives in control of the government be rewarding illegal aliens at the expense of US citizens living in the state? What should minorities do to counter the tremendous economic harm illegal aliens have caused them, given Progressives apparently are no longer interested in them?

does anyone know what this is?
 
Greetings, ocean515. :2wave:

How do you reach the "guy and gal on the street?" Most do not visit sites like this where facts are presented, and pros and cons are debated - they go by what they hear on TV. There is the further problem of those not wanting to give up the help they receive in the form of food stamps and other government assistance just to stay alive in most, but not all cases. Just another example of government creating the problem then offering a way to correct it. Add in victimhood and racism, which are encouraged by those with an agenda, and this is what follows. If this is supposedly agreeable to those that have to pay for it, why are so many businesses fleeing California for more tax friendly States? Do your legislators at the State level also exempt themselves from the things the rest of the people have to put up with, like they do in DC? California is a beautiful State, scenery-wise, but tourists can't be counted on to pay all the bills that are coming due, and there are more and more all the time not paying taxes, which will eventually require a massive federal bailout, IMO. That will anger those States, and its citizens, that are trying to live within their budgets, and rightfully so. Another step on the way down to the bottom, I guess.

Hi Polgara :2wave:

How to reach the guy and gal is an interesting question. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear there is much chance for that. The Progressives have gerrymandered the state, so opposing political views are almost impossible to create. Further, so many people are enslaved to state handouts, they are easily swayed by promises. In addition, voter turn out is so poor, it's easy for massive union action alone to sway voter outcomes.

Sadly, I'm afraid for the next generation or more, this state is lost to Progressive extremism. And yes, the other 49 states will be bailing out this state. I should post the link, but out of the millions of new residents who have moved to California in recent years, both legally, and illegally, only a very tiny percentage are paying any income taxes. The actual number is so small, it's measured in values to the right of the decimal point. Yet, Progressives keep introducing new legislation like those seen in the OP, with no means at all to pay for them. It's all about the rich paying their "fair" share, only the Progressives are doing everything they can to insure there aren't any "rich" left to pay for these programs.

Isn't it a shame?
 
The lesson is that California represents exactly what Progressives want to do to the country. It should be viewed as their vision for the future of the United States.

Big percentages of the people on welfare. Failed education, rampant crime, high unemployment, business killing regulations, exploited minorities, the list goes on and on.

This is Progressivism defined. California is an example of the end game. It's not mid-experiment, so the results of their actions are still coming together. It is mature reality.

Everyone should look at California and decide if that is what they want for the rest of the country, and then vote accordingly.


The irony is that California is one of the most economically viable states. In size and economic capabilities it equals Canada, which many of the Cadillac socialist in Hollywood hold out as an ideal. What interrupts that reality is that California is slowly going bankrupt. Like the proverbial frog in the glass of water, the heat has been turned up and they do not notice they are in free fall, doing what Canada did in the mid to late 90's, borrowing to pay interest.

Canada took the hard road and practically dismantled the social safety net, evaporated the deficit and even in these times operates with a surplus....yes a surplus as in money left over after they have met all spending obligations. This s called "sound fiscal management' for "sustainable" social programs.

So you have the example there before you. One of the richest states is failing as a result of run-away socialism, an ideology with a questionable blue print. If this is the plan for the rest of the country, the poor states are screwed, blued and tattooed before the music plays.

It is simple insanity to offer full privileges and free medical care to illegals when the back door is still wide open. Any high school freshman will see that adding to the perks and "free stuff" is only an attraction for even more illegals who will want even more "rights"
 
Considering the big ado about Arizona trying to usurp government power of immigration I see this as no different. In fact it goes AGAINST Federal law by essentially making illegal aliens legal in the state of California. Which they do not have the power to do. Only the Feds have that power.

However you won't hear a peep from Obama or Holder about this.

Of course not, because as the Senate President stated, California is different.

Because it is run by Progressives, it gets to establish for example, it's own environmental laws citizens in other states have to live by. Establishing it's own immigration laws shouldn't be a big surprise, nor should the lack of response from Washington.
 
The irony is that California is one of the most economically viable states. In size and economic capabilities it equals Canada, which many of the Cadillac socialist in Hollywood hold out as an ideal. What interrupts that reality is that California is slowly going bankrupt. Like the proverbial frog in the glass of water, the heat has been turned up and they do not notice they are in free fall, doing what Canada did in the mid to late 90's, borrowing to pay interest.

Canada took the hard road and practically dismantled the social safety net, evaporated the deficit and even in these times operates with a surplus....yes a surplus as in money left over after they have met all spending obligations. This s called "sound fiscal management' for "sustainable" social programs.

So you have the example there before you. One of the richest states is failing as a result of run-away socialism, an ideology with a questionable blue print. If this is the plan for the rest of the country, the poor states are screwed, blued and tattooed before the music plays.

It is simple insanity to offer full privileges and free medical care to illegals when the back door is still wide open. Any high school freshman will see that adding to the perks and "free stuff" is only an attraction for even more illegals who will want even more "rights"

Exactly. :applaud

The slippery slope they entered years ago has become a superhighway to economic oblivion. It's an inexplicable effort.
 
no since you cannot write any law, which names a person or group giving them a leg up or push down....if you do thats not equally under the law.

Really? Tell that to all those people that broke the law, served their time, and still have limited Rights.

And its not "equally under the law". Its equality under the law. Getting tired of seeing people pronounce this wrong. :roll:
 
Really? Tell that to all those people that broke the law, served their time, and still have limited Rights.

And its not "equally under the law". Its equality under the law. Getting tired of seeing people pronounce this wrong. :roll:

typo

it is equality under the law[correct], meaning that government cannot create a law which grants a person or group something the rest of the population will not get ..... or the reverse, a law, which denies a person of group something the public has.

if you mean voting .......constitutional law covers that
 
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