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California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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Additionally, the judge finds that it violates both equal protection AND due process and that each challenge is independently meritorious. This means, in appeals (if I understand it correctly) that those backing Prop 8 will have to prove that it doesn't violate equal protection AND due process separately.

Obviously, this isn't the end of it.

We'll see. It's a tough Supreme Court - but Kennedy has voted in favor of gay rights in 3 of 4 cases that have made it that far.
 

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Yep. Another activist judge overthrowing the will of the people for a second time based on nothing but their own personal politics.

Sad but predictable.
 

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Yep. Another activist judge overthrowing the will of the people for a second time based on nothing but their own personal politics.

Sad but predictable.
Activist judge: one who rules in a way you don't like.
 

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This is great news, but this battle is far from over. This will go back and forth for a long time throughout the entire country. How did I know that someone would bring up "activist judge" in the first page? :lol:
 

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This is great news, but this battle is far from over. This will go back and forth for a long time throughout the entire country. How did I know that someone would bring up "activist judge" in the first page? :lol:
I know it is still a long fight, but I will worry about that tomorrow. Today is celebrating!
 

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Activist judge: one who rules in a way you don't like.
Activist judge: One who rules not on the law or the will of the people but on personal politics.
 

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And you can show any evidence at all of this?
 

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If you don't like gay marriage then blame straight people...they're the ones who keep making gay babies.
 
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I just came here to jeer at the zealots, I don't have time to have the at least halfway viable argument regarding the will of the people vs. the courts. Unfortunately, no zealots yet.
 

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Yep. Another activist judge overthrowing the will of the people for a second time based on nothing but their own personal politics.

Sad but predictable.
Yep, how dare the will of bigots be overturned by something as inconsequential as the US Constitution.
 

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Some things shouldn't be voted according to the will of the people. The will of the people shouldn't supercede personal rights. Regardless, Prop 8 was passed by a very narrow margin. I wonder how the results would have been if the Mormons wouldn't have gotten involved as heavily as they did.
 

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FWIW, according to a new opinion poll, 51% of Californians surveyed would now support same sex marriage if the issue came up for a vote.
 

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Yeah, remember when those activist justices back in the 50s decided that equal rights meant that you couldn't have separate schools and water fountains even though the people clearly wanted to make blacks into second class citizens?

No, wait, I remember now. It was the activist justices who had earlier created the nonsense concept of "separate but equal" because of their personal politics.

But how can that be???!!! Texmaster thinks that only liberal decisions come from activist justices?!!! I am so confused.
 

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I think it is silly that people actually think marriage is a sacred union only available for men and woman. Sure a Church marriage can be considered "Sacred" but what is the big deal about Homosexuals receiving a marriage license?
 

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You know, there is something I do not understand - That would be why some people want to ban gay marriage, don't want gays in the military, and basically want to deny gays the same rights that everybody else has, when the fact is, that America, all the way back to the Revolution, is based on "gayness". In order to prove my point, I now lay out a chapter from my new book (that does not now, nor ever will exist).

From DanaRhea's Fractured American History........

That the United States has always been a gay nation cannot be argued. In fact, America itself was founded upon "gayness". Archeologists, stumbling upon an old battle hymn used by the early American military, have finally decoded it's meaning.

From "Yankee Doodle", which was originally created by the British, in order to poke fun at the American upstarts:

"Yankee Doodle went to town
Riding on a pony"

Yes, that's right. A pony. A real man would have ridden a horse. But why a pony? That is explained in detail in the next passage:

"Stuck a feather in his cap
And called it macaroni"

This is key. The term "macaroni" refers to The Macaroni Club in England, from which arose one of the greatest homosexual scandals in the history of that nation. The "macaronis" were a group of very wealthy and effeminate men, who loved to wear makeup, huge powdered wigs, dresses, and even panties, while discussing political events of the day, all the while sipping tea and eating crumpets. And, of course, they thoroughly enjoyed sodomizing each other.

So, according to the song, what we have is a very poor hick, who is very gay, and who does not have the wealth of the macaronis, but tries hard to emulate their "queerness".

"Yankee Doodle keep it up
Yankee Doodle Dandy
Mind the music and the step"

Minding the music and the step is something that gays are very good at. Just ask Baryshnikov.

"And with the girls be handy"

Pure sarcasm.

And what song did the very first American military instruct their drum and fife corps to play, as they went into battle? Why it was Yankee Doodle, of course.

But, you say, they just did it to rub it in England's face. To that argument, I reply "Precisely, that is exactly what they did". To the British, the American military yelled triumphantly "We're queer, and we're here!!

:prof Class dismissed.

:mrgreen:
 
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