California exchange overstated its Web traffic for Obamacare launch

[trfjr]

California's health insurance exchange vastly overstated the number of online hits it received Tuesday during the rollout of Obamacare.

State officials said the Covered California website got 645,000 hits during the first day of enrollment, far fewer than the 5 million it reported Tuesday.

The state exchange had cited the 5 million figure as a sign of strong consumer interest and a major reason people had so much difficulty using its $313-million online enrollment system.

California exchange overstated its Web traffic for Obamacare launch - latimes.com


:lamo


It is bad enough it is a train wreck they have to LIE to try not to make it look like one

Josef Goebbels would be very proud

so a 300 million dollar web site crashes from only 645,000 hits

:lamo

 

[trfjr]

Web traffic numbers for Obamacare's New York exchange look inflated
When people ran into problems attempting to use New York's health insurance exchange website on Tuesday, the state released a statement claiming that the site was experiencing problems because it had “received an overwhelming and unanticipated response of 2 million website visits” within hours of opening. By 5 p.m., the Associated Press reported, it was claiming 10 million.

Yet at the same time, federal officials were boasting that the federal website, Healthcare.gov, received 2.8 million visits.

How can both claims be true?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/web-t...w-york-exchange-look-inflated/article/2536712

:lamo

Looks like we have another LIE

it is like a nightmare that keeps getting worse and worse

 

[Kobie]

When people ran into problems attempting to use New York's health insurance exchange website on Tuesday, the state released a statement claiming that the site was experiencing problems because it had “received an overwhelming and unanticipated response of 2 million website visits” within hours of opening. By 5 p.m., the Associated Press reported, it was claiming 10 million.

Yet at the same time, federal officials were boasting that the federal website, Healthcare.gov, received 2.8 million visits.

Both claims can be true since they're two different websites.

 

[CanadaJohn]

Irrespective of the numbers related to website hits or non-hits, traffic to a site is not indicative of support of the site's "products". Lots of curious people brouse and then move on. It's the number of people "buying" that I'll be interested in seeing.

As an anecdote, I noted on CNN this morning that a review of problems in Maryland showed trouble accessing their site and that the problems had cleared and they were gloating about having 2,000 people enrol in the exchange. I could be overly critical, but 2,000 in a state where the population is 5.9 million and about 18% are uninsured (over 1 million people) is not a sign of a roaring success. If people were dying (literally or figuratively) to buy into Obamacare in Maryland, I'd expect far larger numbers, but we'll see over time.

 

[trfjr]

Both claims can be true since they're two different websites.

So, to sum up, New York is claiming more than three times the web traffic of the federal exchange site for a state serving less than one-tenth the population.

 

[Kobie]

So, to sum up, New York is claiming more than three times the web traffic of the federal exchange site for a state serving less than one-tenth the population.

I'm not privy to NY's numbers, so I don't know if they're accurate or not. But since the exchanges are handled at the state level, it would stand to reason that the state exchange websites would be getting more traffic.

 

[trfjr]

Irrespective of the numbers related to website hits or non-hits, traffic to a site is not indicative of support of the site's "products". Lots of curious people brouse and then move on. It's the number of people "buying" that I'll be interested in seeing.

As an anecdote, I noted on CNN this morning that a review of problems in Maryland showed trouble accessing their site and that the problems had cleared and they were gloating about having 2,000 people enrol in the exchange. I could be overly critical, but 2,000 in a state where the population is 5.9 million and about 18% are uninsured (over 1 million people) is not a sign of a roaring success. If people were dying (literally or figuratively) to buy into Obamacare in Maryland, I'd expect far larger numbers, but we'll see over time.

there has been hardly any reports of actual enrollment. I wonder why? you would think if they were even mediocre they lap dog media would be bragging about the numbers
did a search yesterday and only came across 3 states that have posted number of enrollments
Louisiana 0 Connecticut 167 Wisconsin fewer than 300

 

[Kobie]

there has been hardly any reports of actual enrollment. I wonder why? you would think if they were even mediocre they lap dog media would be bragging about the numbers
did a search yesterday and only came across 3 states that have posted number of enrollments
Louisiana 0 Connecticut 167 Wisconsin fewer than 300

We've been over this.

 

[trfjr]

I'm not privy to NY's numbers, so I don't know if they're accurate or not. But since the exchanges are handled at the state level, it would stand to reason that the state exchange websites would be getting more traffic.

you have over 20 states that didn't set up exchanges that are being handled by the federal site

so you are going to try to claim NY had 3 times the traffic then we had in 20 states

 

[trfjr]

We've been over this.

you haven't been over anything at least anything that makes any sense

 

[bubbabgone]

Hits don't mean s--t.
Every time you try it's a hit. That's happening.
If you bail when you find how much it'll cost it's a hit. That's happening.
Enrollments are what counts.
I've seen it said that 40% of the folks calling are expecting free healthcare.
Could it be that this POS was designed to fail so that the suggested remedy will be single payer Government run healthcare ... but as we all know, Obama said "... we may not get there immediately"

No way you say?

"When then asked by panelist Steve Sebelius whether he meant ultimately the country would have to have a health care system that abandoned insurance as the means of accessing it, Reid said: “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.” " Or maybe someone wants to argue Reid never really said that either.

 

[Kobie]

you have over 20 states that didn't set up exchanges that are being handled by the federal site

so you are going to try to claim NY had 3 times the traffic then we had in 20 states

Sure do. And what do those states have in common? If you guessed "States where people weren't even told what to do regarding the exchanges," you might be on to something.

Hell, I live in New York, which is one of those liberal hippie communes, and most people I know have NO CLUE what to do regarding the exchanges.

 

[Kobie]

Hits don't mean s--t.
Every time you try it's a hit. That's happening.
If you bail when you find how much it'll cost it's a hit. That's happening.
Enrollments are what counts.
I've seen it said that 40% of the folks calling are expecting free healthcare.
Could it be that this POS was designed to fail so that the suggested remedy will be single payer Government run healthcare ... but as we all know, Obama said "... we may not get there immediately"

No way you say?

"When then asked by panelist Steve Sebelius whether he meant ultimately the country would have to have a health care system that abandoned insurance as the means of accessing it, Reid said: “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.” " Or maybe someone wants to argue Reid never really said that either.

I don't doubt that single payer is the eventual goal. GOOD. We should have had it decades ago.

 

[trfjr]

I've seen it said that 40% of the folks calling are expecting free healthcare.
.

makes you wonder if the LIE of free health care was told to the ignorant masses by the community centers and the Obama local lackeys across America to get them to vote for Obama again I guess the free Obama Phones wasn't enough of a bribe they needed to throw in free health care to sweeten the deal

 

[Deuce]

makes you wonder if the LIE of free health care was told to the ignorant masses by the community centers and the Obama local lackeys across America to get them to vote for Obama again I guess the free Obama Phones wasn't enough of a bribe they needed to throw in free health care to sweeten the deal

Funny. Every single mention of "free" health care I've seen has come from conservatives.

 

[trfjr]

I don't doubt that single payer is the eventual goal. GOOD. We should have had it decades ago.

yep so we can have the long waits for treatment just like every other socialist nation. cant wait.
do you know they have a 26 week waiting period to get a heart bypass surgery in Canada wonder how many died waiting for that surgery

 

[Erod]

It is a gross lack of integrity for the media and government to be stating "hits" as a measure of anything. They know full well it means nothing to get a "hit". One person can generate thousands of hits in a day by themselves, tens of thousands if they know how.

How many people are signing up and how many aren't....that's the only measure. It's embarassing the complete lack of interest, and the media is running interference to that truth the best they can.

 

[Bronson]

Sure do. And what do those states have in common? If you guessed "States where people weren't even told what to do regarding the exchanges," you might be on to something.

Hell, I live in New York, which is one of those liberal hippie communes, and most people I know have NO CLUE what to do regarding the exchanges.

Have you registered yet and given Obama all your private info? :lol:

 

[Kobie]

yep so we can have the long waits for treatment just like every other socialist nation cant wait.
do you know they have a 26 week waiting period to get a heart bypass surgery in Canada wonder how many died waiting for that surgery

Waiting for Cardiac Surgery

0.7% of cardiac surgery patients (13 out of 1,854) at the QE2 Health Sciences Centre in Halifax.

 

[Kobie]

Have you registered yet and given Obama all your private info? :lol:

I have insurance through my employer. I'm looking into the exchanges to see if I can get a better rate, but I am in no rush.

 

[trfjr]

It is a gross lack of integrity for the media and government to be stating "hits" as a measure of anything. They know full well it means nothing to get a "hit". One person can generate thousands of hits in a day by themselves, tens of thousands if they know how.

How many people are signing up and how many aren't....that's the only measure. It's embarassing the complete lack of interest, and the media is running interference to that truth the best they can.

I agree, but just was pointing out they are even lying about the number of hits to either make Obama care look more popular then it actually is and or as an excuse to explain why their 300 million dollar website paid by tax payers money is a failure

 

[Bronson]

I have insurance through my employer. I'm looking into the exchanges to see if I can get a better rate, but I am in no rush.

Did you sign up and register yet?

You know you can't look at the rates until you register right? :lol:

That's by design btw

 

[Kobie]

Did you sign up and register yet?

You know you can't look at the rates until you register right? :lol:

That's by design btw

WELL I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE MY ADDRESS AND SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER oh wait

 

[trfjr]

Waiting for Cardiac Surgery

0.7% of cardiac surgery patients (13 out of 1,854) at the QE2 Health Sciences Centre in Halifax.

How Long Are Patients Waiting For Acute Care Services? | | Alberta Health Services

Coronary Artery Bypass Graft (CABG) Wait times
2 weeks for Urgency 1, 6 weeks for Urgency 2, and 26 weeks for Urgency 3.

and lastly who decides what Urgency you are? the government? you dam right they do along with what treatment you can receive

 

[trfjr]

WELL I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE MY ADDRESS AND SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER oh wait

but you will give it to some one with 20 hours of training with no background checks