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By the numbers: US police kill more in days than other countries do in years

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Fact: In the first 24 days of 2015, police in the US fatally shot more people than police did in England and Wales, combined, over the past 24 years.

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Fact: There has been just one fatal shooting by Icelandic police in the country’s 71-year history. The city of Stockton, California – with 25,000 fewer residents than all of Iceland combined – had three fatal encounters in the first five months of 2015.

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Fact: Police in the US have shot and killed more people – in every week this year – than are reportedly shot and killed by German police in an entire year.

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Fact: Police in the US fatally shot more people in one month this year than police in Australia officially reported during a span of 19 years.

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Fact: Police fired 17 bullets at Antonio Zambrano-Montes, who was “armed” with a rock. That’s nearly three times what police in Finland are reported to have fired during all of 2013.
 
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Try using the search function. This has been discussed before.
 

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Try using the search function. This has been discussed before.

Some people like to discuss this matter, but have no real proposal on how to fix it nor even an idea about what the problem is.
 

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Oh noes! The country with the most donkey orifices that shoot at cops is the country with the most cops shooting back at the donkey orifices! Everyone panic!

Pro tip: Don't be a criminal, and don't antagonize cops, and they'll leave you alone. This isn't rocket science, people.

Well...for the piece of excrement criminals it is.
 

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Fact: In the first 24 days of 2015, police in the US fatally shot more people than police did in England and Wales, combined, over the past 24 years.

Cali.png


Fact: There has been just one fatal shooting by Icelandic police in the country’s 71-year history. The city of Stockton, California – with 25,000 fewer residents than all of Iceland combined – had three fatal encounters in the first five months of 2015.

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Fact: Police in the US have shot and killed more people – in every week this year – than are reportedly shot and killed by German police in an entire year.

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Fact: Police in the US fatally shot more people in one month this year than police in Australia officially reported during a span of 19 years.

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Fact: Police fired 17 bullets at Antonio Zambrano-Montes, who was “armed” with a rock. That’s nearly three times what police in Finland are reported to have fired during all of 2013.
All that shows is that the US has more violent criminals that police have to deal with. You have to be a idiot if you think cops are just out shooting people for the hell of it.
 

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Oh noes! The country with the most donkey orifices that shoot at cops is the country with the most cops shooting back at the donkey orifices! Everyone panic!

Pro tip: Don't be a criminal, and don't antagonize cops, and they'll leave you alone. This isn't rocket science, people.

Well...for the piece of excrement criminals it is.

Absolutely.

You nailed it good.
 

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Comparing the US with all those tiny European countries is silly. You could carve suburban areas out of the US that have a higher population and a lower murder rate than they do. American suburbs have the advantage of being ethnically homogeneous and of being composed of people in higher socioeconomic classes. And so does Iceland, Norway, etc.

I'd like to see what any of the anglosphere countries could do if they were given the American black and latino population to deal with. I suspect that there would either be more shootings by cops or more dead cops. If you eliminate blacks and latinos from the statistics the American murder rate falls toward that of the UK. Eliminate altercations between blacks and latinos and the police and there is a similar precipitous drop in the number of people cops kill, although I don't think it drops as low as that in the UK, where the police don't even carry firearms most of the time.

The Guardian doesn't seem to understand the USA very well.
 

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Try using the search function. This has been discussed before.

He doesn't care. As a matter of fact he won't post in this thread again.
 

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Some people like to discuss this matter, but have no real proposal on how to fix it nor even an idea about what the problem is.

Actually there are several proposals to try to improve those numbers, and police training is right at the heart. Rather than being confrontation and escalating situations (think Sandra Bland in Texas), police should be trained to solve problems, not quickly resort to gunfire.
 

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Actually there are several proposals to try to improve those numbers, and police training is right at the heart. Rather than being confrontation and escalating situations (think Sandra Bland in Texas), police should be trained to solve problems, not quickly resort to gunfire.

That is, what I thought you would refer to. But that is a down-stream measure to control damage done up-stream. That is fine as far as it goes. It has very little to do with the sources of the problem, however.
 

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Maybe USians are just more violent on average, and need more robust policing. The numbers bear this out as well. It comes down to the question of whether the difference lies between the police forces of the various countries or the populations. The answer is probably "both", which makes comparisons with other countries of limited use.
 
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