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By Constitution, USA is a country of Christianity!

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With open words, The American Constitution so obliges this country:

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation. (Article VI)

On the land called America, what bigger debt and engagement can anyone find to have been contracted and entered obliging this nation than what is stressed in the following?

The said States hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship with each other, for their common defense, the security of their liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretense whatever.

This sacred contract term of debt and engagement can be exactly found in Article III, The Articles of Confederation.

Given that all signers of the Articles of Confederation are followers of Christianity, and given that all signers of the American Constitution are followers of Christianity, logic must allow the word religion found in the above quotation to mean nothing else but only the teaching of Christianity. Besides logic, indeed, religion, namely Christianity, is hereby indisputably listed as the number one account prior to anything else for all these Christian signers to enter a firm league, namely a firm government, to defend.

As quoted, with the bold expression on the unaltered inheritance of a sacred debt and engagement, the American Constitution must permanently oblige every citizen receiving her protection with the recognition of the supreme dominance of the Christian teaching in this nation, regardless of this citizen’s background, natural, ethnical, or cultural. Excuse can be given to no one who fails in such recognition. Any idea in contrast to this obligation, or action releasing anyone from this obligation, must be found unacceptable by the Constitution.
 
You need a hobby.
 
Fishing on Christmas, trying to get a bite? :roll:
 
With open words, The American Constitution so obliges this country:

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation. (Article VI)

On the land called America, what bigger debt and engagement can anyone find to have been contracted and entered obliging this nation than what is stressed in the following?

The said States hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship with each other, for their common defense, the security of their liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretense whatever.

This sacred contract term of debt and engagement can be exactly found in Article III, The Articles of Confederation.

Given that all signers of the Articles of Confederation are followers of Christianity, and given that all signers of the American Constitution are followers of Christianity, logic must allow the word religion found in the above quotation to mean nothing else but only the teaching of Christianity. Besides logic, indeed, religion, namely Christianity, is hereby indisputably listed as the number one account prior to anything else for all these Christian signers to enter a firm league, namely a firm government, to defend.

As quoted, with the bold expression on the unaltered inheritance of a sacred debt and engagement, the American Constitution must permanently oblige every citizen receiving her protection with the recognition of the supreme dominance of the Christian teaching in this nation, regardless of this citizen’s background, natural, ethnical, or cultural. Excuse can be given to no one who fails in such recognition. Any idea in contrast to this obligation, or action releasing anyone from this obligation, must be found unacceptable by the Constitution.

Condition #1 is false. Not every signer of the Articles of Confederation was Christian. The assumption that 'Christians' comprise a single religion is also false, since Catholics and different kinds of Protestant didn't take that opinion toward each other's faith. Generally speaking, Protestants and Catholics considered each's faiths to be more deviant and more dangerous to Christianity than Judaism or Islam, since the latter two were overtly heretical, while the other made an imitation at the true religion. In the public consciousness of the Founding Fathers time, differences of religion were between different kinds of Christian.

My main point being, if the group known as Christians belong to entirely different religions, then there is no single religion for them to belong to.
 
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Condition #1 is false. Not every signer of the Articles of Confederation was Christian. The assumption that 'Christians' comprise a single religion is also false, since Catholics and different kinds of Protestant didn't take that opinion toward each other's faith. Generally speaking, Protestants and Catholics considered each's faiths to be more deviant and more dangerous to Christianity than Judaism or Islam, since the latter two were overtly heretical, while the other made an imitation at the true religion. In the public consciousness of the Founding Fathers time, differences of religion were between different kinds of Christian.

Then there's the fact that they promptly adopted the First Amendment.
 
, differences of religion were between different kinds of Christian.
, if the group known as Christians belong to entirely different religions, then there is no single religion for them to belong to.
The logic directed by the above quotations must tell people that the Founding Fathers had come together to draw the Articles of Confederation to fight each other.
 
Then there's the fact that they promptly adopted the First Amendment.

The First Amendment has not been vested with the power of rewriting any part of the Constitution, but then must be subordinated and submissive to the original Constitution. Do you find any word from the First Amendment to have the debt and engagement relinquished?
 
With open words, The American Constitution so obliges this country:

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation. (Article VI)

On the land called America, what bigger debt and engagement can anyone find to have been contracted and entered obliging this nation than what is stressed in the following?

The said States hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship with each other, for their common defense, the security of their liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretense whatever.

This sacred contract term of debt and engagement can be exactly found in Article III, The Articles of Confederation.

Given that all signers of the Articles of Confederation are followers of Christianity, and given that all signers of the American Constitution are followers of Christianity, logic must allow the word religion found in the above quotation to mean nothing else but only the teaching of Christianity. Besides logic, indeed, religion, namely Christianity, is hereby indisputably listed as the number one account prior to anything else for all these Christian signers to enter a firm league, namely a firm government, to defend.

As quoted, with the bold expression on the unaltered inheritance of a sacred debt and engagement, the American Constitution must permanently oblige every citizen receiving her protection with the recognition of the supreme dominance of the Christian teaching in this nation, regardless of this citizen’s background, natural, ethnical, or cultural. Excuse can be given to no one who fails in such recognition. Any idea in contrast to this obligation, or action releasing anyone from this obligation, must be found unacceptable by the Constitution.

I don't see where "Christ" is mentioned in any of your quotes regarding the Constitution.
 
The First Amendment has not been vested with the power of rewriting any part of the Constitution, but then must be subordinated and submissive to the original Constitution. Do you find any word from the First Amendment to have the debt and engagement relinquished?
The current constitution wasn't made by the united states under the Articles of Confederation. It was made by a convention of sovereign states.
 
The First Amendment has not been vested with the power of rewriting any part of the Constitution, but then must be subordinated and submissive to the original Constitution.

Utter bull****.

It's an amendment. It rewrites the Constitution by definition. Get over it.
 
That is the most outlandish, convoluted, and incoherent argument I've ever heard. That makes absolutely NO sense. Not once in the Constitution does it mention the word Christianity. If this country was a theocracy, I would get the hell out as quickly as possible. You have the biggest misinterpretation of the Constitution since Ronald Reagan.
 
I don't see where "Christ" is mentioned in any of your quotes regarding the Constitution.

Yeah, I feel like I missed something too...
 
Some of the founding fathers were Christian by birth but were not practicing.

Go here and scroll down to the links to the different Founders and what they thought about religion. All were secularists and that was their basis for the Constitution.
 
Utter bull****
Why must a portion of the canine or fang be hidden? Too dirty, too soft? Or just literally having fell off?
It's an amendment. It rewrites the Constitution by definition. Get over it.
Here comes the definition of amendment from a dictionary:
1. The act of changing for the better; improvement:
2. A correction or alteration, as in a manuscript.

So, unless you find that the First Amendment has been vested with the power of rewriting the entire Constitution, it only stays at the level of adding something conceived to be better. See how Amendment XVIII comes and goes? Whatever the part in the Constitution that is not touched by an amendment must stay intact. Otherwise, your wild “definition” conception can make America equally acceptable to have three presidents or none at all only because of the existence of the First Amendment. The First Amendment has no power to relinquish any debt or engagement the Constitution pledges. Don’t take the Constitution as a manuscript. Get over it
 
Here comes the definition of amendment from a dictionary:
1. The act of changing for the better; improvement:
2. A correction or alteration, as in a manuscript.

Yes.

So, unless you find that the First Amendment has been vested with the power of rewriting the entire Constitution, it only stays at the level of adding something conceived to be better. See how Amendment XVIII comes and goes? Whatever the part in the Constitution that is not touched by an amendment must stay intact. Otherwise, your wild “definition” conception can make America equally acceptable to have three presidents or none at all only because of the existence of the First Amendment. The First Amendment has no power to relinquish any debt or engagement the Constitution pledges. Don’t take the Constitution as a manuscript. Get over it

Wow. Seriously, get a new hobby.
 
I don't see where "Christ" is mentioned in any of your quotes regarding the Constitution.

Please explain the debt and engagement that the Constitution pledges to inherit from The Articles of Confederation.
 
That is the most outlandish, convoluted, and incoherent argument I've ever heard. That makes absolutely NO sense. Not once in the Constitution does it mention the word Christianity. If this country was a theocracy, I would get the hell out as quickly as possible. You have the biggest misinterpretation of the Constitution since Ronald Reagan.
It looks like someone gets scared if the true explanation of the Constitution can be read. If you do not have “outlandish, convoluted, and incoherent argument”, explain the debt and engagement that the Constitution pledges to inherit from The Articles of Confederation. If you want to leave this country, leave! If you want to come back to see America as a non-religious country, launch a movement to have current Constitution toppled, at least to have the Article VI removed!
 
The Treaty of Tripoli was ratified unanimously by the US senate in 1797. Section 11 of the treaty begins with this statement:

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...

Among the members of the senate at the time of the unanimous ratification of this treaty we find these 2 names:

John Langdon
William Blount (he was expelled from the senate a month later)

These 2 individuals who were part of the senate which unanimously ratified the treaty containing the above quoted line were also signers of the US constitution.

Consider your argument torpedoed especially this part of it:

...given that all signers of the American Constitution are followers of Christianity, logic must allow the word religion found in the above quotation to mean nothing else but only the teaching of Christianity. Besides logic, indeed, religion, namely Christianity, is hereby indisputably listed as the number one account prior to anything else for all these Christian signers to enter a firm league, namely a firm government, to defend.

5th United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of signers of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Treaty of Tripoli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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It looks like someone gets scared if the true explanation of the Constitution can be read. If you do not have “outlandish, convoluted, and incoherent argument”, explain the debt and engagement that the Constitution pledges to inherit from The Articles of Confederation. If you want to leave this country, leave! If you want to come back to see America as a non-religious country, launch a movement to have current Constitution toppled, at least to have the Article VI removed!

Dude, give it up. Your argument is insane. You have no case. You don't get to have what you want. Deal with it. It's my government too, and you don't get to make it a Christian one.
 
The Treaty of Tripoli was ratified unanimously by the US senate in 1797. Section 11 of the treaty begins with this statement:

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;
Argument to remove the Christianity spiritual dominance in America based on the Treaty of Tripoli is extremely fragile. The fundamental points for the refutation against this argument are:
1. A treaty has legal effect only if all parties abiding to the treaty are there to realize their duty and obligation as well as receiving benefit. Now, one of the parties vanishes, the treaty silently dissolved.
2. While Treaty of Tripoli is gone, the American Constitution is still there guiding and benefiting us with full force; no interruption of the Constitution’s power has ever been seen.
3. Even during the time of the full life of the Treaty of Tripoli, a treaty covers only foreign matters; Constitution covers both foreign and domestic matter. Therefore, Constitution can always owerpower the Treaty.
4. A treaty is a strategy of a government, not a political principle of a Nation. Constitution is both the principle and strategy of a nation. A nation can change her government; no government of a nation can change the nation itself. When it is needed, and when reality permits, the citizens can overturn a treaty according to the power bestowed by the Constitution, but can never the other way around, unless the citizens have accepted their defeat by the treaty and surrender; then the nation must have also crumbled.
5. American government, brilliant as she has been, made many mistake in history. Must she be bound by her mistake as her principle in the future operation? During War World II, American citizens of Japanese descendants were locked in concentration camps. Should this continued to be part of the American policy? If not, why should some article in some dead treaty be singled out to straightjacket the American government and the nation it defends? Furthermore, the singled out article has been interpreted with severely deformed understanding.
6. Here is what the article 11 of Treaty of Tripoli said:
a. “… the Government of the United States of America is not…founded on the Christian religion; …”
It is a fact that the American government is not founded on the Christian religion. It is also a fact, however, that she is bound to defend the teaching of Christianity by the debt and engagement specified by the Article of Confederation and such debt and engagement have been pledged by the Constitution. The EPA, or some other organizations, have pledge or been made pledge to protect the wolf packs in Yellowstone Park, but all such agencies and agents do not have to be converted to be wolf first, nor be organized according to the “rules” of the wolf packs first. If our government loses the sense to see to the dominance of the teaching of Christianity in this country, she has failed her number one duty that has been assigned to her by the Constitution. She is not going to be politically encoded by the Christianity; she is hired and assigned the duty to safeguard the sole dominance of the Christianity by the Christian believers in this nation.
b. “…it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen…”
No truer fact has been so found in history with America, both before and after the drawing of the treaty; we do not need this treaty to prove the American benevolence to the world. Therefore, the Treaty is absolutely a time limited strategy.
 
Please explain the debt and engagement that the Constitution pledges to inherit from The Articles of Confederation.

I don't see "Christ" anywhere in the Articles of Confederation either.
 
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