alphieb said:
Damn, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed, teacher?
I had to do a thing because of a reason. Politics. Besides, Billo really enjoys rants like that. Dunno why, he just likes carnage I guess. The d-man didn't bite at all. Solid. He can't be all bad. He's the guy with the best 11 songs. Except for that Devo one.
I do hate links though. But in this case a acceptable one would be to the exact law covering this.
According to the article, Bushes fault lies in that he only informed congressional leaders, but not the intelligence leaders. Which is allowed in matters covert. So they are spying, which is generally covert, and did not tell the heads of the intelligence committees as allowed by the 1947 law.
Seems like the question that must be asked is were these activities covert?
Not that it matters to anyone I'm sure. But if he did do wrong, why? To hurt a political opponent? Greed? Malice? If he erred it was while doing what he thought was in the interests of national security. So if proved to be illeagle, let the senate vote on impeachment. I accepted Clintons outcome, can you do the same? Taking into consideration the recent leaks about the wiretapping and radiological detection program, maybe there should not be so many people in the know. If they can't keep their mouths shut about confidential material, should they be told? And how come the big issue is not who leaked? That's more on the treason end than not telling a few blabbermouths. What I'd like to know is there any newer laws that have a bearing on this very old law? The 1979 law maybe? Are there things about this they can't divulge because it would divulge classified operating procedures? And again, what power does this CRS have, if any?
Aps says it well:
aps said:
KC, you and cnredd can read the article and interpret it to say that it's possible the president violated NSA. danarhea read the article and based upon the conclusion that the presidents actions are inconsistent with the law, he interprets it as saying that Bush violated NSA. So I wouldn't say that danarhea's headline was intentionally untruthful (to you it is, but to him it's not).
At this point, it's interpretation based on what is covert or not.
Much ado about nothing. IMO, I think danarea is getting too happy too early about something nowhere near resolved and cnredd called him on it. Don't know much about danarea. Is he a habitual Bush hater or is he a pragmatic question asker? Judging by cnredd's post he's a Bush hater. Being as cnredd is the second in command of the monkey army :monkeyarm you can guess who I'm backing.
Speaking of the Devo song "Whip it". When it came out it got put in the jukebox of the arcade I worked at as a teen. Everybody allways played that song. Over and over. So when there was no one there I played it and repeatedly picked up and dropped the jukebox until the 45 got all scratched and unplayable. It played about ten seconds then did that scratching noise as the stylus ran off the record. I was just as funny the hunderth time as the first. The moral of the story? Humor can be found in almost any situation.
cnredd called danerea a liar, which by definition he can correctly state. danarea could have just said, my mistake, it was a unintended oversite and diffused cnredd but he chose to make a big deal about it. He now uses cnredds statement about him being a liar (which at this point, can still be said) to take the debate away from facts and to the land of war. He can still say it was a simple mistake and take away cnredds point and both come out equal. I'm sure cnredd would say no biggie and danarea can say cnredd jumped all over him for something not typed.
Score:
cnredd: 0. But he has the ball.
danarea: 0. Honerable mention for not taking the bait.
teacher: Retains tittle of favorite asshole. Amused Billo. Still looks good in a cape. Took care of a thing. Slipped in a perfect segway to an anecdote. Amused self: 18 under par and drinks for free at the 19th.
Lesson learned? Don't even leave a crack open, cnredd will be there. And if Billo agrees with cnredd, log off, reregister under a new name. And if you're going to hell, bring something warm.
Have I missed anything?
Oh yea, my pipe? Longbottom/two rivers hybrid.
