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American said:Read here. The old bag finally got what was coming to her. :rofl
What's Bush's Response?I'd like to ask you, Mr. President, your decision to invade Iraq has caused the deaths of thousands of Americans and Iraqis, wounds of Americans and Iraqis for a lifetime. Every reason given, publicly at least, has turned out not to be true. My question is, why did you really want to go to war? From the moment you stepped into the White House, from your Cabinet -- your Cabinet officers, intelligence people, and so forth -- what was your real reason? You have said it wasn't oil -- quest for oil, it hasn't been Israel, or anything else. What was it?
This simply is not true. That was the attitude before Dec 7, 1941, not 9-11 2001. But to be fair, yes the attitude was never that terrorists would use commercial airlines to do such. However there were plenty of warnings before the attack by all communities of intelligence. THe Bush Admin just chose to ignore those warning. As per stated by the 9/11 commission's report.No President wants war. Everything you may have heard is that, but it's just simply not true. My attitude about the defense of this country changed on September the 11th. We -- when we got attacked, I vowed then and there to use every asset at my disposal to protect the American people. Our foreign policy changed on that day, Helen. You know, we used to think we were secure because of oceans and previous diplomacy. But we realized on September the 11th, 2001, that killers could destroy innocent life. And I'm never going to forget it. And I'm never going to forget the vow I made to the American people that we will do everything in our power to protect our people.
Part of that meant to make sure that we didn't allow people to provide safe haven to an enemy. And that's why I went into Iraq -- hold on for a second --
Bush responds:Q They didn't do anything to you, or to our country.
Look -- excuse me for a second, please. Excuse me for a second. They did. The Taliban provided safe haven for al Qaeda. That's where al Qaeda trained --
Bush, again on Afganistan, but finally something on IraqI'm talking about Iraq --
Well for one thing, serious consequences does not nessecitate war, though it can be.Helen, excuse me. That's where -- Afghanistan provided safe haven for al Qaeda. That's where they trained. That's where they plotted. That's where they planned the attacks that killed thousands of innocent Americans.
I also saw a threat in Iraq. I was hoping to solve this problem diplomatically. That's why I went to the Security Council; that's why it was important to pass 1441, which was unanimously passed. And the world said, disarm, disclose, or face serious consequences --
Speaking of "evading the question"..... We both know of a question you have been evading, don't we? :lol:jfuh said:All of you on this site whom debate often should clearly see that Bush is again evading the question at hand.
Bush doesn't evade the question asked? Would you like to respond to the thread at hand? Or just continue on your lame attempts at flaming?KCConservative said:Speaking of "evading the question"..... We both know of a question you have been evading, don't we? :lol:
Hey, glad to hear from you, jfuh. It's funny you should mention flaming. Why are you avoiding the other thread? You're invited to see a list of real flames.jfuh said:Bush doesn't evade the question asked? Would you like to respond to the thread at hand? Or just continue on your lame attempts at flaming?
Keep waiting all you want KC. Contrast to simple flaming and going off thread with you, I choose to spend my time more wisely through intelligent debate with ppl that know how to do so. If you know how, feel free to join, otherwise you're welcome to decend back to the basement with your flaming rant.KCConservative said:Hey, glad to hear from you, jfuh. It's funny you should mention flaming. Why are you avoiding the other thread? You're invited to see a list of real flames.
:waiting:
Yeah, gotta love how you, only now, decide to take the high and mighty road. Looks as if the long list of your flames was too much to stomach., right hypocrit? Come take a look. You'll see how "intelligent" your debating has been. :lol:jfuh said:Keep waiting all you want KC. Contrast to simple flaming and going off thread with you, I choose to spend my time more wisely through intelligent debate with ppl that know how to do so. If you know how, feel free to join, otherwise you're welcome to decend back to the basement with your flaming rant.
What's partial about asking for the reason to go to war?alphamale said:I heard big excerpts of the liberal shark feeding frenzy on Hannity today. It's funny how the liberal media establishment has given up even the semblance of being impartial journalists. I don't see why Bush puts up with those self important snots - I'd give them all the heave-ho out of the white house if I were him.
KCConservative said:Yeah, gotta love how you, only now, decide to take the high and mighty road. Looks as if the long list of your flames was too much to stomach., right hypocrit? Come take a look. You'll see how "intelligent" your debating has been. :lol:
jfuh said:What's partial about asking for the reason to go to war?
Seems like you would be perfectly suite to be a dictator.
KCConservative said:Yeah, gotta love how you, only now, decide to take the high and mighty road. Looks as if the long list of your flames was too much to stomach., right hypocrit? Come take a look. You'll see how "intelligent" your debating has been. :lol:
Why bother aps?aps said:I am begging you to take all your postings to jfuh and show them to your kids. If you were my father, I would lose some, and perhaps all, respect for him (but my father would NEVER stoop to this level). What is the matter with you? And don't tell me that because you feel jfuh has done that to you that somehow you're justified in doing what you're doing. Grow the hell up. Do you call yourself an adult? You clearly have stalker-like qualities.
Makes it more difficult to take bribes or "gifts", go to war, lie to the public, oust a CIA opperative, not commit to saving a city from hurricane, ect ect ect, when you have a free media watching your actionsaps said:Excellent question, jfuh. Notice that alpha did not respond. :lol:
It's amazing to me how cons and/or repubs want to blame everything on the liberal media. :roll:
jfuh said:Why bother aps?
As Confucious teaches "A wall made of $hit, can not be soiled".
American said:Read here. The old bag finally got what was coming to her. :rofl
How about his flaming behavior the last few weeks? Are you just conveniently discounting that? Now that he's confronted with the truth in black and white, he's too afraid to face it.aps said:Because I am utterly disappointed to see this kind of behavior from him....utterly disappointed.
Don't worry, I'm about finished. He now knows the hypocracy of his ways. Perhaps now he'll rise to the level of debating he demands of everyone else.aps said:And don't tell me that because you feel jfuh has done that to you that somehow you're justified in doing what you're doing. Grow the hell up.