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Deegan said:Of course I heard all about this over two years ago, how UBL wanted Bush to remain in office to continue to help aid in recruiting terrorists to his cause. This of course was a liberal myth, but it's funny how this sort of rhetoric never dies, it just gets more creative with time. I think that the author is just throwing this back in the face of those who made this preposterous presumption, and apparently it's working as planned, LOL!:rofl
hipsterdufus said:I don't think OBL cares who is president one way or the other. It's amazing to me that OBL surfacing before the election would help Bush, which it seemed to. To me it just reinforced the continued fact that this administration has been unable to kill or capture the main perpetrator of 9/11/01
Our invasion of Iraq hasn't created more terrorist activity?Deegan said:Of course I heard all about this over two years ago, how UBL wanted Bush to remain in office to continue to help aid in recruiting terrorists to his cause. This of course was a liberal myth, but it's funny how this sort of rhetoric never dies, it just gets more creative with time. I think that the author is just throwing this back in the face of those who made this preposterous presumption, and apparently it's working as planned, LOL!:rofl
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/26/AR2005042601623.htmlThe number of serious international terrorist incidents more than tripled last year, according to U.S. government figures, a sharp upswing in deadly attacks that the State Department has decided not to make public in its annual report on terrorism due to Congress this week.
Overall, the number of what the U.S. government considers "significant" attacks grew to about 655 last year, up from the record of around 175 in 2003, according to congressional aides who were briefed on statistics covering incidents including the bloody school seizure in Russia and violence related to the disputed Indian territory of Kashmir.
Terrorist incidents in Iraq also dramatically increased, from 22 attacks to 198, or nine times the previous year's total -- a sensitive subset of the tally, given the Bush administration's assertion that the situation there had stabilized significantly after the U.S. handover of political authority to an interim Iraqi government last summer.
Deegan said:I agree, UBL had no horse in that race, and he even made mention of that if I am not mistaken, something about not caring for Kerry either? Still, finding UBL is like trying to find a needle in a haystack, one that we are not even allowed to inspect, i.e Pakistan. He is cut off, and all he can do is make silly tapes, and those have even proved useless, as he has yet to provide his org. with another attack on this great country. I think we should laugh at him, and remind him how irrelevant he is, I know I chuckle everytime I see a new tape!:rofl
scottyz said:Our invasion of Iraq hasn't created more terrorist activity? Bin Ladens stated goal is to bankrupt the U.S. and he is doing a pretty good job so far. It's not as if he didn't use this same strategy with Russia.
We took cities, but we have never taken the whole country. We even have trouble keeping some of those cities under our control. Like Russia in Afghanistan we do not control the countyside.Deegan said:We are not Russia, and we took both Afghanstan and Iraq in a matter of weeks, not to mention our goals are not imperialism, but democracy, and this is why we will win.
Deegan said:We are not Russia, and we took both Afghanstan and Iraq in a matter of weeks, not to mention our goals are not imperialism, but democracy, and this is why we will win.
scottyz said:We took cities, but we have never taken the whole country. We even have trouble keeping some of those cities under our control. Like Russia in Afghanistan we do not control the countyside.
How will we win? Do you really think the sects and tribes that make up Iraq care about western Democracy?
Deegan said:Of course I heard all about this over two years ago, how UBL wanted Bush to remain in office to continue to help aid in recruiting terrorists to his cause. This of course was a liberal myth, but it's funny how this sort of rhetoric never dies, it just gets more creative with time. I think that the author is just throwing this back in the face of those who made this preposterous presumption, and apparently it's working as planned, LOL!:rofl
Kandahar said:Hey they aren't my words. I'm quoting the President.
Deegan said:We are not Russia, and we took both Afghanstan and Iraq in a matter of weeks, not to mention our goals are not imperialism, but democracy, and this is why we will win.
Kandahar said:And what does the ideology have to do with whether we'll win? This sounds like a religious conviction that we'll prevail simply because our cause is just (most communists and Islamists probably believe the same thing).
I agree that we're in a much better position than the USSR ever was in Afghanistan...but that still doesn't mean that we'll win, and it certainly doesn't mean that we'll win because of our ideology.
Deegan said:Of course I heard all about this over two years ago, how UBL wanted Bush to remain in office to continue to help aid in recruiting terrorists to his cause. This of course was a liberal myth, but it's funny how this sort of rhetoric never dies, it just gets more creative with time. I think that the author is just throwing this back in the face of those who made this preposterous presumption, and apparently it's working as planned, LOL!:rofl
Navy Pride said:That is surprising...I would have thought Bin Laden would have wanted Kerry to be President because he wanted to treat the war against terrorism as a police action and a kind and sensitve way as Clinton did..........
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20...xIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--72% of American troops in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year.
JOHNYJ said:Of course he wants Bush in office.He is winning with Bush.President Bush sent to few troops,not properly equiped to fight. He won't seal the Iranian or Syrian border ( or the Mexican either ) . If we had a diferent President who had some military knowledge or Generals that had guts he might be dead by now.
If I were a terrorist waging jihad against a given country, I think I would be glad to have a President of that country who has said that he wasn't concerned about me.Navy Pride said:That is surprising...I would have thought Bin Laden would have wanted Kerry to be President because he wanted to treat the war against terrorism as a police action and a kind and sensitve way as Clinton did..........
hipsterdufus said:I agree with what Kerry said about how to fight the war on terror. IMHO the war against terror will not be over in my lifetime, or my children's lifetime. Kerry basically said that we should get to the place where it is manageable, and not all encompassing and that the war on terror will not be won exclusively by the military.
The right chose to focus on the word "sensitive" - hey that's their right, but it wasn't the focal point of the message.
It all comes out in the wash in the end. Bush is at an all-time low of 34% approval.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20...xIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--
Let the Swiftboating of our troops begin :roll: