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“I want President Chavez to please understand that even though many people in the United States are critical of our president that we resent the fact that he would come to the United States and criticize President Bush,” said Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

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After 6 years of liberals calling Bush "fascist" and "stupid", apparently calling him "the devil" is going a bit too far...

I haven't heard any liberal outrage around the movie which depicts Bush's assasination, but at least this is a start.
 
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dsanthony said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14955193/

“I want President Chavez to please understand that even though many people in the United States are critical of our president that we resent the fact that he would come to the United States and criticize President Bush,” said Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

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After 6 years of liberals calling Bush "fascist" and "stupid", apparently calling him "the devil" is going a bit too far...

I haven't heard any liberal outrage around the movie which depicts Bush's assasination, but at least this is a start.

Well you know, I've yet to see a republican in office step up to tell their conservative constituencies to stop calling us terrorist sympathizers or anti-Americans or any of the other endearments conservatives love to heap on us. Let's not play innocent here. No one in politics is trying to quell the mutual hatred growing every day in this country. They have too much to gain from it.

Yet, I am glad that Sen. Rangel stepped up. I admire him for that.
 
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mixedmedia said:
Well you know, I've yet to see a republican in office step up to tell their conservative constituencies to stop calling us terrorist sympathizers or anti-Americans or any of the other endearments conservatives love to heap on us.


When libs parrot our enemies and try to undermine the war effort it has to make one whose side the libs are on.
 
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jamesrage said:
When libs parrot our enemies and try to undermine the war effort it has to make one whose side the libs are on.

See??

Perfect example of the time of nonsensical BULL **** we are talking about.

You are on ignore until you grow up.. I refuse to "debate" with bickering fools who are too busy making up lies and ignorant generalizations to provide any positive input into anything. In through with it.

Your attitude towards liberals is parroting the attitude of radical islamics towards Americans.

Sad that you could possibly hate your fellow Americans because of political ideology. Pathetic!
 
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Caine said:
See??

Perfect example of the time of nonsensical BULL **** we are talking about.



You are on ignore until you grow up.. I refuse to "debate" with bickering fools who are too busy making up lies and ignorant generalizations to provide any positive input into anything. In through with it.

How is a ****en lie?Does Cindy Sheehan,Ward Churchill,Dick Durban,John Kerry,Murtha Murtha,Jane Fonda and others like them ring a bell.



Sad that you could possibly hate your fellow Americans because of political ideology. Pathetic!

I do not hate liberals,I am only just disgusted with them.
 
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jamesrage said:
When libs parrot our enemies and try to undermine the war effort it has to make one whose side the libs are on.

You're right. It's BECAUSE of the attacks on Bush, and the attempts to undermine the war, that Repubs condemn many libs as "anti-American". They're falsely making it seem the two are unconnected.

Why is Caine "ignoring" you over this? It wasn't even directed to him/her.
 
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dsanthony said:
I haven't heard any liberal outrage around the movie which depicts Bush's assasination, but at least this is a start.
The ABC series? You must have missed the thread in these forums because almost everyone who posted thought Bush being assassainated was in bad taste, including plenty of liberals. I looked for a link, but the breaking news forum has been cropped to only 3 pages back. :doh
 
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dsanthony said:
You're right. It's BECAUSE of the attacks on Bush, and the attempts to undermine the war, that Repubs condemn many libs as "anti-American". They're falsely making it seem the two are unconnected.

Why is Caine "ignoring" you over this? It wasn't even directed to him/her.

The two sides feed off of each other and a failure to see that is a sure sign of being too far to the left or right. MANY republicans condemn ANY liberal who speaks for their beliefs. And they are our BELIEFS. Just like you guys BELIEVED Bill Clinton was bad for our country. We are not disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. Go ahead and cozy up to james, 'cause just like the radical liberals (and yes, I am comparing you both DIRECTLY to the radical liberals) miserable malignance loves company.
 
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mixedmedia said:
The two sides feed off of each other and a failure to see that is a sure sign of being too far to the left or right. MANY republicans condemn ANY liberal who speaks for their beliefs. And they are our BELIEFS. Just like you guys BELIEVED Bill Clinton was bad for our country. We are not disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. Go ahead and cozy up to james, 'cause just like the radical liberals (and yes, I am comparing you both DIRECTLY to the radical liberals) miserable malignance loves company.

And you either lie or are just foolish. There IS a HUGE difference between partisan politics and treason. When the NYT releases secret info in an effort to damage our war effort, that is treason. When Dems (Murtha, Kerry, etc.) attack our war effort, they have crossed the line from dissent to treason.

This has been hashed and rehashed. As was pointed out in another thread today, libs simply ignore when their lies are pointed out and continue lying.
 
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dsanthony said:
When Dems (Murtha, Kerry, etc.) attack our war effort, they have crossed the line from dissent to treason.
OKay bub...

Now back this up..... how does politicians voicing thier dissent turn into treason.

Make sure that your explaination allows it to properly fit the elements of the crime of treason.

If you pull the old fasioned "aid and comfort" you need to explain HOW "aid and comfort" is being given.

I'll await your attempt.
 
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Please put me on ignore.

I repeat:
This has been hashed and rehashed. As was pointed out in another thread today, libs simply ignore when their lies are pointed out and continue lying.
 
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dsanthony said:
Please put me on ignore.

I repeat:
This has been hashed and rehashed. As was pointed out in another thread today, libs simply ignore when their lies are pointed out and continue lying.
Translation: Caine wins.

dsanthony said:
When Dems (Murtha, Kerry, etc.) attack our war effort, they have crossed the line from dissent to treason.
Are you saying no Congressman can disagree with the president during war without being treasonous? :rofl
 
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dsanthony said:
And you either lie or are just foolish. There IS a HUGE difference between partisan politics and treason. When the NYT releases secret info in an effort to damage our war effort, that is treason. When Dems (Murtha, Kerry, etc.) attack our war effort, they have crossed the line from dissent to treason.

This has been hashed and rehashed. As was pointed out in another thread today, libs simply ignore when their lies are pointed out and continue lying.

:rofl My god, you're reproach is deafening. I'm so totally demoralized. Really.

I've yet to see you back up any of your absolute statements with anything but self-important garbage. You make these inane declarations and then either disappear or act like you're above substantiating them. Pfft. I'm overwhelmingly not impressed. At least james and many of the other conservatives I dislike around here will stick around and defend their statements. I wouldn't count on a very long tenure here at DP unless you're ready to start putting your money where your fingers are.
 
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dsanthony said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14955193/

“I want President Chavez to please understand that even though many people in the United States are critical of our president that we resent the fact that he would come to the United States and criticize President Bush,” said Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

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After 6 years of liberals calling Bush "fascist" and "stupid", apparently calling him "the devil" is going a bit too far...

I haven't heard any liberal outrage around the movie which depicts Bush's assasination, but at least this is a start.

That last one just kind of seems tacked on.

I don't think Chavez comments were appropriate. But the reasons for which these ‘dems’ have spoken out Chavez’s comments are lame. To say he shouldn’t insult our president because he isn’t from around here indicates some pretty loose morals. Freedom of speech for citizens only I guess.

Rangel is either trying to use this for political opportunism, or some attempt to fill a void in his self-esteem.
 
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Originally Posted by dsanthony
I haven't heard any liberal outrage around the movie which depicts Bush's assasination, but at least this is a start.
YOU haven't heard of any.
 
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dsanthony said:
libs simply ignore when their lies are pointed out and continue lying.
A prejudicial characterization of myself, and other ‘libs’, hardly supports the idea that your arguments are anything but subjective.

See me before you see a liberal.
 
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I don't believe libs are unpatriotic. I just fear they may trade us all down the river in a misguided attempt at finding utopia somewhere over the rainbow.
 
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talloulou said:
I don't believe libs are unpatriotic. I just fear they may trade us all down the river in a misguided attempt at finding utopia somewhere over the rainbow.


sadly some are so hateful of Bush they hope America loses so they can blame him and get back power
 
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dsanthony said:
When the NYT releases secret info in an effort to damage our war effort, that is treason.

Really? If it is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TREASONESS as you have claimed, why is it no TREASON charges have been filed? Why is it the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES has not called it TREASONESS?

He has called it damaging, but he has NOT called it TREASON. Why not? Are you saying the President of the U.S. is too much of a ***** to call it treason, OR are do you simply not know what treason really is? I am guessing that you don't know what treason is. If Bush wanting it to be treason, he would be fighting for the NYT to be brought up on charges, but alas he is not.
 
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TurtleDude said:
sadly some are so hateful of Bush they hope America loses so they can blame him and get back power

Sounds like the Republicans during the Clinton Administration.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Sounds like the Republicans during the Clinton Administration.


nope-the military was our people and we didn't want them getting killed. I don't claim you do either but I have seen more than a few moonbats who do.
 
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TurtleDude said:
nope-the military was our people and we didn't want them getting killed. I don't claim you do either but I have seen more than a few moonbats who do.

Ok so it is ok for Republicans to not want people getting killed in a war during the Clinton Administration, but not ok for Democrats to not want people getting killed during a war now?

Sorry if you feel bad on me for conisdering that a bit OFF.
 
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Caine said:
OKay bub...

Now back this up..... how does politicians voicing thier dissent turn into treason.

Make sure that your explaination allows it to properly fit the elements of the crime of treason.

If you pull the old fasioned "aid and comfort" you need to explain HOW "aid and comfort" is being given.

I'll await your attempt.

Caine, I hope you realize I would say the following about anyone who would say such things, no matter what the party, but here goes:

The rabid bias of both parties has gotten out of control; however, the democrats have taken it to a new high. when ANYONE calls brave men and women in the military in harm's way on froerign soil a 'terrorist' or compares them to Nazis and Pol Pot regeimists, they have gone to far. It was bad enough when OBL declared war on the United states back in 1995 and that declaration was ignored! To stand up and attack this nation's resolve when we are in a fight for our very survival against Islamic extemists who have said they will stop short of nothing but Israel and the U.S.'s defeat, is borderline treasonous! To declare we can not win is borderline un-patriotic. If you want to say you disagree with the war, that is one thing, but attacking this nation's morale and resolve, to include those of our brave men and women in service abroad, is wrong!

Spinning politics up to the point you are running commercials of flag-draped coffins - USING the men and women who have died serving their country - to win votes is WRONG. That along with almost nothing but negative press and coverage of the war is similar to aiding the enemy by running a home-grown propoganda war FOR the enemy! Al Zarqawi's own journal said it best: 'Time is running out for our movement. America is training divisions of Iraqis and scores of policemen to stand up and fight for freedom themselves. If this happens, we will be fighting and killing Muslims! Our greatest allies are the politicians and the media in the United States, urging their people to demand the President withdraw troops out of Iraq!' He knew the truth and was the only one willing to say it!

Can you imagine if today's politicians and media would have been present for D-Day in World war 2? France and the UK would be speaking German today because the Liberals would have demanded an immediate wiithdrawl due to the number of casualties on that 1 day! today's democrats, IMO, can not find - does not believe there is 1 thing out there worth that kind of sacrifice today! That is a shame! Today it is all about power, money, and being re-elected! THAT is WRONG!

As I said, I don't care what party you are in, there are some things that are border-line treasonous - like exposing CLASSIFIED LEGAL programs designed to target our 9/11 enemies just to score political point - such an action weakenss this nation and eliminates another tool we can use to fight the enemy and protect this country! (I still want to know why nothing has been done against the Times or the people who leaked these classified programs! If we can try to jail anyone for 'leaking' the name of a CIA desk-jockey who was introduced around Washington at functions/parties as 'My CIA Wife', then why can't we go after people for aiding and abetting the enemy?)

Bottom line, the bias partisanship from both parties has reached monumental, and near treasonous/criminal, status and needs to be reigned in immediately!

I for one am glad to see the democrats have not become so blinded by partisanship lately that they would give Hugo Chavez a free pass to get away with the vile speech he gave before the U.N. Kudos to 'em! America 1st, NOT Party-1st...and that goes to all of 'em!
 
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easyt65 said:
however, the democrats have taken it to a new high. when ANYONE calls brave men and women in the military in harm's way on froerign soil a 'terrorist' or compares them to Nazis and Pol Pot regeimists, they have gone to far.

Is that the same thing when a Republican calls someone who served in the Vietnam war a terrosit supporter?

The one thing I will agree with you on is that BOTH sides have gone too far, but to claim that the democrats have taken it to a new high is ridiculous when Republicans call people who criticize the president terrorist supporters.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Ok so it is ok for Republicans to not want people getting killed in a war during the Clinton Administration, but not ok for Democrats to not want people getting killed during a war now?

Sorry if you feel bad on me for conisdering that a bit OFF.

Maybe if Clinton would have taken any action while Americans were being killed abroad after OBL declared war on us 9/11 may not have happened and maybe we wouldn't be in the war we are in now.

Hitler said that if france would have made any move to show disapproval to his moving german Troops into the buffer zone that he would have immediately withdrawn them, and the war would have not started. Who is to say that 1995 and the murders of our military abroad by Islamic Extremists that followed was not our 'French moment of pre-WW2'? In regards to WW2, we had Hitler's own book to tell us about his 'encounter' (or lack therof) with france, but we do not have that equivalent to shed any light into today's conflict. So, we may never know.....
 
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