Buckle Up, Snowflakes!

[Paradoxical]

hahahaha



yet another hardcore Republican that denies voting for a Republican president. it's Bush II (lying and flip flopping) all over again.

I never liked McCain. He was an idiot and later a traitor to America.

What makes him a hero over all other who were injured and imprisoned?


PS. Is THIS really the "big" story? that Trump criticized McCain? Seriously? It's like saying he dissed Jeff Flake or Romney. I haven't really followed this, but is this the hullaballoo?

 

[CaughtInThe]

I never liked McCain. He was an idiot and later a traitor to America.

What makes him a hero over all other who were injured and imprisoned?


PS. Is THIS really the "big" story? that Trump criticized McCain? Seriously? It's like saying he dissed Jeff Flake or Romney. I haven't really followed this, but is this the hullaballoo?

yes. you hardcore Republicans, who think everything to do with the Democratic party is evil/unAmerican, never vote for Republican Presidential candidates.


hahahaha

 

[skeptic llc]

It was McCain, the RINO traitor. Republicans know this.Mitt Romney's bestie.

Wow, that is sick. He sacrificed more for this country than most ever will. Then a real estate heir who claimed bone spurs to avoid serving attacks him for being a POW, and the current R base ... agrees? I guess parties really do change their values over time.

 

[Empirica]

Your train has already jumped the tracks and is headed for the bottom of the valley looking for a place to stop.

Your "train" has been derailed by dementia and kept in hiding from the prying eyes of the media and public scrutiny.

Don't worry it wont hurt as much as you have been told or think.

I've been blessed with the resources to ride out the "hurt" of a methodical destruction of the American Dream at the hands of the new Socialist Democrat Party

My only pain will be from the loss of my beautiful country and the wonderful courageous generations of Americans that created, nurtured and loved it.

Do you really believe this?

Yep...do you really believe your hatred for Trump justifies your vote for Biden?...Seriously?!

Anyway; the timing of Trump's Presidential bid was either devine intervention, a quirk of fate or a well timed coincidence.

Just in time to save the nation from radical Progressives that have long controlled the media, the unions, the education system and the Democrat Party that just this year came out of the Marxist closet.

"My hope is that humanity survives to evolve beyond hate, envy, greed and powerlust"
If so, you are backing the wrong guy, and Should know that.

Do you realize that hate/envy/greed/&power are all tools used in Marxist revolutions?!

It's simply amazing how blind the lefties are to have bought into such an obvious pack of lies...You and millions of others around the world have been the end result of years of Marxist indoctrination.

You've been led to believe the U.S.is a racist nation and its Constitution subjective, and white Americans are selfish greedy bigots and Capitalism is a race conscious economic system.

"Democratic Socialism" has always begun with manipulation of reality and lies to incite hate, discontent, envy and division, followed by wonderful promises and visions of a beautiful Utopia.

Unfortunately, the Utopian expectations of the eager masses invariably fail to materialize, instead devolving into a totalitarian police state of oppression, poverty and hopeless despair.

Well wouldn't the masses eventually rise up and overthrow their oppressors, you say?! :wassat1:

This is the reason all left leaning political entities are forever pushing gun control, inching ever closer to the eventual ban of all civilian firearms.

God Bless You

Awww, thank you Noony :kissy: you are too sweet.

 

[Empirica]

I never liked McCain. He was an idiot and later a traitor to America.

What makes him a hero over all other who were injured and imprisoned?

PS. Is THIS really the "big" story? that Trump criticized McCain? Seriously? It's like saying he dissed Jeff Flake or Romney. I haven't really followed this, but is this the hullaballoo?

I kind of agree with you to some extent...McCain deserved a lot more criticism than he ever got from the Republican Party simply because of his "hero" status.

I might have had a little more respect for the man if he had just stopped pretending to be a Republican and re-registered as the Democrat that he actually was.

 

[skeptic llc]

I kind of agree with you to some extent...McCain deserved a lot more criticism than he ever got from the Republican Party simply because of his "hero" status.

I might have had a little more respect for the man if he had just stopped pretending to be a Republican and re-registered as the Democrat that he actually was.

I'm so confused about the refusal to admit that the party has changed. He was your NOMINEE for &*^% sake.

 

[Puigb]

I'm so confused about the refusal to admit that the party has changed. He was your NOMINEE for &*^% sake.

Republicans have a history of abandoning their own candidates and even president's that they either become embarrassed by, or don't tow the party line as much as they want.

They all enthusiastically voted for McCain and Romney...and now hate them both because both of them DARED to criticize their current leader. As for president's, look at Dubya, who they all voted for twice, and defended for 8 years...and yet today you can count the amount of Republicans on one hand who would admit to being Dubya suppporters/voters.

Trump will face the same fate, eventually.

 

[skeptic llc]

I remember in the R debate when Jeb said his brother kept us all safe, and Trump said 9/11 was a failure by W to do just that ... I thought Trump was toast, because Rs had spent so many years saying Ds were crazy for holding that view (that W had no way to know, etc.). But then, just like that, it was ok for an R to say the exact same thing.

 

[Jason Warfield]

I find it humorous that the righties in this thread are calling the story fiction because the sources were anonymous...yet we are barraged almost daily with links to blog sites where a "source who wishes to remain anonymous to protect himself and his family (or her)" and we are expected to merely roll over and accept those blog sites as truth.

As well as QAnon.......

 

[Paradoxical]

Wow, that is sick. He sacrificed more for this country than most ever will. Then a real estate heir who claimed bone spurs to avoid serving attacks him for being a POW, and the current R base ... agrees? I guess parties really do change their values over time.

Tell me exactly what the traitor McCain (really a Democrat who wanted no wall), did that hundreds of thousands of other soldiers didn't also do? As Trump said, he was captured. How does that being captured and tossed in prison make you a hero? If it automatically does, the lets posthumously give every soldier ever wounded and captures a medal.

i think the left likes McCain because he betrayed his country in trying to ruin Trump. They loved that about him.

 

[Paradoxical]

I kind of agree with you to some extent...McCain deserved a lot more criticism than he ever got from the Republican Party simply because of his "hero" status.

I might have had a little more respect for the man if he had just stopped pretending to be a Republican and re-registered as the Democrat that he actually was.

Say what you will about Trump but at least he isn't what is called two-faced. America has had serious problems with illegal aliens pouring across the border and the Dems only pretended they were against it. They wanted illegal aliens here because they used our welfare system and their children's votes were a lock for Democrats. That they drained our coffers didn't matter. I remember distinctly McCain pretending to be for building a wall and he would do his usual thing of claiming that he would vote funds for and push a wall for YEARS. One person became upset that no action was being taken to do that and McCain tersely replied something like, "You want a wall. I'll get a damn wall".

So, both McCain and Bush had zero intentions of keeping illegals out. Why? because they didn't want to lose the meager 5% of so votes they got from Hispanics. So, they both paid lip service to a wall, and now California, Arizona and Texas have flipped, which was the Democrats plan all along and both McCain and Bush were traitors on this issue.

 

[Barnacle]

Ok, I already have addressed this, but one more time, Bolton was not there the entire time, he even admits that, he also states that it would not surprise him if he did say it. As for the rest, again few were there 100% of the time, and the others work for trump and he does try to hire the loyal. I would also remind you that at least four people are say it happened, and this has been verified by several sources and those sources say those saying he did say it are credible sources. And then there is Kelly and what trump said to him, all it takes is for Kelly to stand up like a man and either confirm it or deny it, if he confirms, trump is toast, the same man that trump is attacking holds trump future in his hands, think trump is a bit nervous now?

Correct; however, the crucial time when it was supposed to have happened, Bolton was there.

Bolton to NYT: "I didn't hear that," Bolton told The New York Times. "I'm not saying he didn't say them later in the day or another time, but I was there for that discussion."

The Atlantic: "... In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed. ..."

 

[CaughtInThe]

Wow, that is sick. He sacrificed more for this country than most ever will. Then a real estate heir who claimed bone spurs to avoid serving attacks him for being a POW, and the current R base ... agrees? I guess parties really do change their values over time.

we need to get use to Republicans trashing POWs, MIAs and the military in general. more and more will follow Trump's lead (as the poster you're responding to already has).

 

[skeptic llc]

Tell me exactly what the traitor McCain (really a Democrat who wanted no wall), did that hundreds of thousands of other soldiers didn't also do? As Trump said, he was captured. How does that being captured and tossed in prison make you a hero? If it automatically does, the lets posthumously give every soldier ever wounded and captures a medal.

i think the left likes McCain because he betrayed his country in trying to ruin Trump. They loved that about him.

(1) Start with who you are comparing him to -- those who ALSO served. Wrong, the first comparison is to those who dodged service when their country called. That context already puts him FAR ahead of most politicians. Honor those who serve honorably, period. It is astonishing that captain bone spurs dares to smear someone who served and sacrificed, and pathetic that supposed supporters of the country and its military stand by or get behind this effort.

(2) Among those who also served, few sacrificed as much. If you don't get what that statement is based on, read anything about McCain.

(3) McCain was a conservative long before Trump. Trumpism is a whole different strain of conservatism than the one that dominated the Republican party for most of our lifetimes. Trumpism itself includes some aspects of other longstanding strains. They have always competed with one another within the party. Someone is not a "traitor" simply because they do not endorse your preferred version of your preferred political party.

(4) Opposing any particular politician is also not a betrayal of one's country. Other branches of conservatism, even, have obvious honest concerns that Trump is systematically destroying the constraints the rule of law imposes on a president, lowering the discourse in the country, stoking division and hate among those he is supposed to be serving, adopting economic and trade policies they oppose, etc. You can feel differently about Trump and his policies, but the fact that you cannot even recognize these concerns as honest is problematic. More broadly, the fact that Trump and so many of his supporters seem to go after EVERYONE who does not wholeheartedly endorse their entire agenda, using the vilest attacks imaginable, is one of the legitimate sources of concern that this presidency is far more frightening than others.

 

[Paradoxical]

(1) Start with who you are comparing him to -- those who ALSO served. Wrong, the first comparison is to those who dodged service when their country called. That context already puts him FAR ahead of most politicians. Honor those who serve honorably, period. It is astonishing that captain bone spurs dares to smear someone who served and sacrificed, and pathetic that supposed supporters of the country and its military stand by or get behind this effort.

(2) Among those who also served, few sacrificed as much. If you don't get what that statement is based on, read anything about McCain.

(3) McCain was a conservative long before Trump. Trumpism is a whole different strain of conservatism than the one that dominated the Republican party for most of our lifetimes. Trumpism itself includes some aspects of other longstanding strains. They have always competed with one another within the party. Someone is not a "traitor" simply because they do not endorse your preferred version of your preferred political party.

(4) Opposing any particular politician is also not a betrayal of one's country. Other branches of conservatism, even, have obvious honest concerns that Trump is systematically destroying the constraints the rule of law imposes on a president, lowering the discourse in the country, stoking division and hate among those he is supposed to be serving, adopting economic and trade policies they oppose, etc. You can feel differently about Trump and his policies, but the fact that you cannot even recognize these concerns as honest is problematic. More broadly, the fact that Trump and so many of his supporters seem to go after EVERYONE who does not wholeheartedly endorse their entire agenda, using the vilest attacks imaginable, is one of the legitimate sources of concern that this presidency is far more frightening than others.

McCain will forever be a traitor to the Republicans, as will Romney. He was the one who hand carried the phony dossier secretly to get Trump. He is a hero as are all service men.

 

[ModerationNow!]

That would be pointless. The story is already out there. Yet I’m sure many would agree with you. Now if you can just find an anonymous source that heard him say it we can crank up the presses.

When is the Atlantic going to report TRUE, PROVABLE stories about Biden's creepy groping of young kids and other people's wives? There's actually proof of that! Anyone can make up unverified, easily disputable "stories" about Trump. But his 3.7 year presidential record has shown that he HEAVILY SUPPORTS the military(which is kinda the opposite of how most leftists feel about them)!

 

[Empirica]

I'm so confused about the refusal to admit that the party has changed. He was your NOMINEE for &*^% sake.

I absolutely agree that the GOP has indeed changed...

The Federal Government had become so insanely Politically Correct that it could no longer effectively legislate.

What happened was, the GOP came to believe this was what America expected of them until Politically Incorrect Candidate Trump proved them wrong in 2016.

And this time as we approach the 2020 re-election of President Trump, the loyal non-RINO Party Members know most Americans are Anti-PC and will support them.

Say what you will about Trump but at least he isn't what is called two-faced.

Agree...

America has had serious problems with illegal aliens pouring across the border and the Dems only pretended they were against it. They wanted illegal aliens here because they used our welfare system and their children's votes were a lock for Democrats.

Agree...

That they drained our coffers didn't matter. I remember distinctly McCain pretend ing to be for building a wall and he would do his usual thing of claiming that he would vote funds for and push a wall for YEARS. One person became upset that no action was being taken to do that and McCain tersely replied something like, "You want a wall. I'll get a damn wall".

Agree...

So, both McCain and Bush had zero intentions of keeping illegals out. Why? because they didn't want to lose the meager 5% of so votes they got from Hispanics. So, they both paid lip service to a wall, and now California, Arizona and Texas have flipped, which was the Democrats plan all along and both McCain and Bush were traitors on this issue.

Agree...

Are you sure you meant this for me Paradoxical? :blink:

 

[skeptic llc]

I absolutely agree that the GOP has indeed changed...

Thank you. Change can be good or bad, but I don't like intellectual dishonesty. Trump's GOP is fundamentally different from the GOP that came before -- kind of like Clinton remade the D party (to be more centrist in that case), but on a grander scale. No reason to pretend otherwise.

 

[skeptic llc]

McCain will forever be a traitor to the Republicans, as will Romney. He was the one who hand carried the phony dossier secretly to get Trump. He is a hero as are all service men.

Have you considered that your guy is a dangerous lawbreaker, as so many national security veterans and your last two nominees believe? Maybe if he had served anyone else ... ever... I could respect him. Like GW Bush -- when the nation called, he didn't demonize those who answered, he faked his age for the privilege of fighting for his country. Service and putting your life on the line matter, and no American should ever forget those who do just that. Trump is not among them.

 

[Paradoxical]

Have you considered that your guy is a dangerous lawbreaker, as so many national security veterans and your last two nominees believe? Maybe if he had served anyone else ... ever... I could respect him. Like GW Bush -- when the nation called, he didn't demonize those who answered, he faked his age for the privilege of fighting for his country. Service and putting your life on the line matter, and no American should ever forget those who do just that. Trump is not among them.

That was 50 years ago. What about what Trump's ancestors did in the Middle Ages?

 

[skeptic llc]

That was 50 years ago. What about what Trump's ancestors did in the Middle Ages?

Huh? Trump didn't serve when called, then attacks those who did. Perhaps the Drumpfs of medieval times were less shameless; does that excuse their bone spur afflicted descendant?

 

[notquiteright]

If there are names sources, you might have a scandal. Otherwise, same old song and dance. Cities and towns across America still burning. Economy recovering. THAT is what America cares about, when it comes down to their vote.

If there are named sources the rabid right will do their same old song and dance. 'Never tRumper, disgruntled loser, deep state... :roll:

Cities and towns across America are not 'still burning'- most Americans have no first hand experience with the isolated arson in an extremely tiny part of our Republic.

When the economy recovered under Obama (after being driven off the cliff by the right's semi-sacred 'job creators') the rabid right gave no love.

I lost my rose colored glasses back in the 70's when it comes in humanity doing the correct thing for good reasons however it does appear tRump has created the conditions where decency and revulsion over the degenerate hate politics has lead to suppressing destructive self interest and greed... eace

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Smart voters know that only President Donald Trump can put an end to Red China, Corona 19, Illegal Immigration, and Political Correctness!