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1. They don't need to do anything special with trade agreements. There is the World Trade Organization that will make sure commerce flows relatively smoothly.
2. They can all do w/e they want so long as they show proper documentation. The point is to make sure that the EU's past and present ****ty immigration policies don't cause problems.
3. Yeah?....if something so simple as having a checkpoint for documentation causing violence to return the UK has a much bigger problem and they freaking suck as civilized people...."if".
4. The EU regulations can cover the tiny smidge of land that is still part of the EU and they can see what it's like to be handicapped by idiotic EU regulations.
1. They don't need to do anything special with trade agreements. There is the World Trade Organization that will make sure commerce flows relatively smoothly.
2. They can all do w/e they want so long as they show proper documentation. The point is to make sure that the EU's past and present ****ty immigration policies don't cause problems.
3. Yeah?....if something so simple as having a checkpoint for documentation causing violence to return the UK has a much bigger problem and they freaking suck as civilized people...."if".
4. The EU regulations can cover the tiny smidge of land that is still part of the EU and they can see what it's like to be handicapped by idiotic EU regulations.
I wonder when the Brit officials are going to stop preventing the democratic will of the people.
Since the courts are inferior to the Parliament, it will be a hard sell this legally as a case to enforce this on Mr. Johnson's government. However if this is a political issue, then raw political force might drive it through over the legalities and then subsequent governments may either retroactively declare this to be legal or simply sweep it under the carpets of Westminster, hoping everyone will forget it in due time. The PM and the Privy Council together are the highest court in the land and can simply overrule and nullify such lower court decisions concerning this legislation.
Brits are certainly living in interesting times. Even reality is warping again as it does in every British revolution.
Cheers.
Evilroddy.
Not true. Government has to obey the law and abide by judges decisions. Johnson could go to jail if he ignores this law.
Nope.~..................... The Privy Council is the highest court in the land ...................~
1. The UK wants a trade deal with the EU, even Boris does. The UK will have to continue to have a large part of its trade with the EU. A trade deal would be a crucial part of that. But if they refuse to pay the EU will never agree to one.
2. What EU immigration policies? The EU only controls immigration where it concerns EU citizens, each member state maintains its own immigration system. EU migrants are needed in many industries in the UK, especially healthcare and finance.
3. Have you never heard of The Troubles or the IRA? The Good Friday Agreement which a hard border violates is a peace agreement.
4. Even the US has dispute mechanisms with its neighbours and it is not nearly as integrated with Canada or Mexico.
Fishking:
That made me giggle. If you study the constitutional history of the British Isles one thing becomes clear. Almost all British constitutional history has been geared towards preventing the full expression of the democratic will of the people and when statutes and courts could not hold back democratic tides, brute force was used. Power rests in the hands of the few in Britain and not in the hopes of the many. The U.K. is not the America you think you live in. Incidentally, nor is America as democratic as you seem to imagine. But that's a debate for another thread.
Cheers.
Evilroddy.
Nope.
And defying a (UK) law passed by parliament and signed off by the Queen (as all are) is a criminal act, committed in the UK.
The highest court of appeal wrt that would be the Supreme Court.
For some lengthy and probably tedious reading of what's what
Judicial precedent: Supreme Court clarifies the status of Privy Council decisions - Publications - Allen & Overy
For sure...but my statement still stands valid. Public referendum is the purest form of democracy, and that was how Brexit went down. So far as the U.S...we aren't a democracy, and never were intended to be.
1. There doesn't need to be any kind of special trade agreement for trade to happen quite normally. In fact, any trade agreement the EU would accept would most likely be to the detriment of the UK.
2. The combination of being basically open borders and Schengen agreement.
3. Yeah...heard of it and, again, if they resort back to that type of dynamic for something so minute, then anyone involved suck as people.
4. The U.S. and Canada remain almost completely autonomous while still conducting trade. That proves the UK doesn't need some kind of special deal. If the U.S. can do it, then so can anyone else. You don't see the U.S. making up some kind of BS regulations/laws that Mexico has to follow, do you? No weird limits on fishing and no restrictions on tea kettles or anything like that.
Ya'll act like no commerce ever happened before the EU became a thing yet, shockingly, it happens all over the world.
1. The UK wants a trade deal, even hardcore Brexiteers like Boris do.
2. The UK was never part of those to begin with, it had an exemption because the UK is an island.
3. It is not soemthing you can just gloss over, it plays a fundamental role in how everything works in Northern Ireland.
4. What do you think NAFTA/USMCA/CUSMA does?
There is no clear distinction between the political and the legal apparatus at the highest levels under the UK/British constitution.
Actually it is true. The Privy Council is the highest court in the land and it is a political body made up of some of the PM's Cabinet plus other appointees from the House of Lords and the Civil service. Although on paper it is controlled by the sovereign in fact the ruling party controls its decisions. The Parliament is also a court but rarely exercises that prerogative. So PM Johnson can simply call the Privy Council which he still controls and have it overturn any ruling a lower court makes regarding Brexit and his role in the Brexit process. So long as he remains PM he has the power to defy the will of Parliament legally.
Could Johnson go to jail? Yes, but that would be a political determination rather than a legal one.
Cheers.
Evilroddy.
There so many incorrect statements in this post.
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