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Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

I know! :doh

And that indicates zero degree of competance Or relevance.


In his dissent in Lawrence v Texas, the deep bigotry he revealed there was so painfully obvious (topper: his ironic remark about "taking sides in the culture war") -

To wit:

"One of the most revealing statements in today’s opinion is the Court’s grim warning that the criminalization of homosexual conduct is “an invitation to subject homosexual persons to discrimination both in the public and in the private spheres.” Ante, at 14.

It is clear from this that the Court has taken sides in the culture war,
departing from its role of assuring, as neutral observer, that the democratic rules of engagement are observed. "

Now this:

"Many Americans do not want persons who openly engage in homosexual conduct as partners in their business, as scoutmasters for their children, as teachers in their children’s schools, or as boarders in their home." https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/02-102.ZD.html

He' just fine and dandy criminalizing certain sexual behaviors between consenting adults behind closed doors -- and goes on to tell us how "many" folks just don't want those icky gays around them.

Curiously, though, 15 years later, (in this most recent decision) -- he says the gay issue "is of no particular importance to me." Ha!

Jig-pokery that, Tony.
 
Once they previously decided that marriage was a civil right, it was all over. So here's a sample:

Yeah, well you quoted from the majority opinion. So what? How about some quotes from the dissent?
 
Yeah, well you quoted from the majority opinion. So what? How about some quotes from the dissent?

You claimed they didnt base their decision on the Constitution. Apparently, they did.
 

Reagan was a moderate Republican. It was also almost 40 years ago.
 

Anthony Kennedy was the deciding vote, and wrote the majority oppinion for the same-sex ruling.
 
So like I said then, they are just selectively using sin as an excuse against gays, rather than actually objecting because of religious belief.

Thanks, that's what I said.

That's not it at all. They are selectively picking the things that are convenient to them and enforcing the things that aren't. It doesn't matter who. Gays aren't the target

Even still, if they hold the belief, our government cannot force the, to violate it.
 
I don't want any judges deciding because of their agenda, I want them to show fidelity to the Constitution and what it says, not what they think it ought to says. Clearly, Obama's appointees are there for the agenda, not the Constitution.

Did why did Scalia invoke his own personal religious beliefs in his dissent?

Is that not an "agenda" that has no god damned place in a constitutional discussion??????
 
Obama's appointees? He hasn't appointed any Judges to the SCOTUS. you guys blame him for things he hasn't even done.

He did actually appoint people to the SCOTUS.......... Lets be honest.
 

Is it safe to say that you aren't making an attempt to understand and that you would rather bash Christians and force them to follow your beliefs?
 
I'm talking about the U.S. Constitution, not the old Soviet Union's.

WTF??!?!?!?!?!?!

Please, using language directly from the majority opinion, show where they based their decision on the old Soviet Union's constitution.....

This is about the most ignorant assertion in this entire thread...
 
Is it safe to say that you aren't making an attempt to understand and that you would rather bash Christians and force them to follow your beliefs?

So, in the spirit of the post you responded to,

 
So, in the spirit of the post you responded to,


I already posted supporting links. I'm not doing it again. Your lame attempt at reductio ad absurdum is noted.
 
Is it safe to say that you aren't making an attempt to understand and that you would rather bash Christians and force them to follow your beliefs?

I am a practicing Christian. If anything, I am bashing the hypocritical ones that give my religion a black eye.
 
Did why did Scalia invoke his own personal religious beliefs in his dissent?

Is that not an "agenda" that has no god damned place in a constitutional discussion??????

You've got to be kidding. He is always looking to the Constitution for guidance. More than anyone on the Court.
 
Reagan was a moderate Republican. It was also almost 40 years ago.

Reagan was the last Republican President that wasn't completely in the pocket of the religious right. He didn't take them seriously, he knew when to pretend to be on their side to get their support but I'm pretty sure he thought they were idiots.
 
WTF??!?!?!?!?!?!

Please, using language directly from the majority opinion, show where they based their decision on the old Soviet Union's constitution.....

This is about the most ignorant assertion in this entire thread...

Please, show me where it is based on our Constitution. What an ignorant post.
 
Oh, I know what ruling we are talking about, there just isn't anything in our Constitution that supports it.

From page 2 of the decision


http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf
 
You've got to be kidding. He is always looking to the Constitution for guidance. More than anyone on the Court.


And this fun little gem......

And then this fun little gem.....

These are definitely the writings of someone who looks to the constitution..... rather than writing as a justice in the highest court, what amounts to a Debate Politics partisan rant.
 
Please, show me where it is based on our Constitution. What an ignorant post.

You are the one who made the claim that it was based on the Soviet Union's constitution......
Now support that ignorant ass claim.
 
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