You can but it is not required.
Question: Several MSM sources now require paywall which others may not have full access to. Are there separate rules or other requirements when posting a link to one of them?The moderation team have revised the BN forum rules and we are consolidating the two forums (BN - MSM and BN - Non-MSM) into one forum.
Highlights of the changes:
- a quoted excerpt is no longer required as a properly formatted link shows a preview of the article automatically
- source definition has been simplified
Q: What about [insert source here]?
A: If the source is a "news organization or website" then it is acceptable, however the article must meet the other standards and not be overly partisan or biased and not be an op-ed or editorial
Q: Why isn't Twitter (or some other social media) a valid source?
A: Twitter, Facebook and other social media sites don't go through an editorial process the way newspapers, magazines and television networks/stations do. Social media posts can be used to support or dispute the actual source, but the actual source needs to be a "news organization or website". Tweets from a "news organization or website" will contain a link to the actual "news organization or website" article - use the article as the source, not the tweet.
Q: What does "properly formatted" mean?
A: Listing the link on a line of it's own shows a preview automatically
Proper formatting:
Example 1
Iran rejects offer of direct US nuclear talks, senior diplomats say
Iran's stance does not kill off all hopes of direct negotiations, diplomats claimed.www.foxnews.com
My own unique content to spur discussion...
Example 2
My own unique content to spur discussion...
Iran rejects offer of direct US nuclear talks, senior diplomats say
Iran's stance does not kill off all hopes of direct negotiations, diplomats claimed.
Improper formatting:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-rejects-offer-of-direct-us-nuclear-talks-senior-diplomats-say - my own unique content to spur discussion...
It is our hope that this makes it easier to post an OP in the (now single) BN forum without a fear of receiving points.
There are not but if you post a link to an article behind a "paywall", half the responses will be people saying "I can't see it" which defeats the purpose of a debate forum. There isn't a rule but it's best to avoid "paywalls" as much as possible.
No extra rules, but I would suggest at least quoting the passage you want to highlight in that case as some will not be able to access the article, and adding alternate sources might be a good idea too.
I don't either, it's too scary.
I don't either, it's too scary.
As stated previously, this won't be an issue. If you post the link on a line of its own the preview will either display or it won't.
I haven't gotten a violation in a long time either but that's only because I don't show up here much anymore, that's the only reason I haven't.
After mulling it over this is one of the single best things you've done with the forum.The moderation team have revised the BN forum rules and we are consolidating the two forums (BN - MSM and BN - Non-MSM) into one forum.
Highlights of the changes:
- a quoted excerpt is no longer required as a properly formatted link shows a preview of the article automatically
- source definition has been simplified
Q: What about [insert source here]?
A: If the source is a "news organization or website" then it is acceptable, however the article must meet the other standards and not be overly partisan or biased and not be an op-ed or editorial
Q: Why isn't Twitter (or some other social media) a valid source?
A: Twitter, Facebook and other social media sites don't go through an editorial process the way newspapers, magazines and television networks/stations do. Social media posts can be used to support or dispute the actual source, but the actual source needs to be a "news organization or website". Tweets from a "news organization or website" will contain a link to the actual "news organization or website" article - use the article as the source, not the tweet.
Q: What does "properly formatted" mean?
A: Listing the link on a line of it's own shows a preview automatically
Proper formatting:
Example 1
Iran rejects offer of direct US nuclear talks, senior diplomats say
Iran's stance does not kill off all hopes of direct negotiations, diplomats claimed.
My own unique content to spur discussion...
Example 2
My own unique content to spur discussion...
Iran rejects offer of direct US nuclear talks, senior diplomats say
Iran's stance does not kill off all hopes of direct negotiations, diplomats claimed.
Improper formatting:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-rejects-offer-of-direct-us-nuclear-talks-senior-diplomats-say - my own unique content to spur discussion...
It is our hope that this makes it easier to post an OP in the (now single) BN forum without a fear of receiving points.
I did and learned from a number of BN MSM infractions - best advice was to use Wiki to source the site. Rules were clear
I was reading your comment and just noticed the quote from @trixare4kids and man-oh-man..... it was definitely a keeper. Wow, just wow
Oh it is - for a very long time
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We do not check every post. Even if we wanted to, the time involved would be far to great. With that said, I could usually tell just by the thread title if a thread had a violation in it. Not always(for example, the quoted exert that this change does away with would slip past the thread title test, but if a thread in BN had the title "Proof Biden/Trump(pick whichever) is a mouth breathing moron", you could safely guess it was a rule violation. And you would be surprised at how many of those threads there were.
The prior BN rules existed for a long time, even before I became a mod. They were a little archaic and outdated. We've needed to update the rules of the BN forum(s) for some time now. We feel what we have now is simpler and will prevent infractions (something we don't like issuing).
Are outlets like brietbart or the NYPost considered as a news organization or are they only allowed in the General Politics forum?
Yes, those are considered news organizations.
The moderation team have revised the BN forum rules and we are consolidating the two forums (BN - MSM and BN - Non-MSM) into one forum.
Highlights of the changes:
- a quoted excerpt is no longer required as a properly formatted link shows a preview of the article automatically
- source definition has been simplified
Q: What about [insert source here]?
A: If the source is a "news organization or website" then it is acceptable, however the article must meet the other standards and not be overly partisan or biased and not be an op-ed or editorial
Q: Why isn't Twitter (or some other social media) a valid source?
A: Twitter, Facebook and other social media sites don't go through an editorial process the way newspapers, magazines and television networks/stations do. Social media posts can be used to support or dispute the actual source, but the actual source needs to be a "news organization or website". Tweets from a "news organization or website" will contain a link to the actual "news organization or website" article - use the article as the source, not the tweet.
Q: What does "properly formatted" mean?
A: Listing the link on a line of it's own shows a preview automatically
Proper formatting:
Example 1
Iran rejects offer of direct US nuclear talks, senior diplomats say
Iran's stance does not kill off all hopes of direct negotiations, diplomats claimed.
My own unique content to spur discussion...
Example 2
My own unique content to spur discussion...
Iran rejects offer of direct US nuclear talks, senior diplomats say
Iran's stance does not kill off all hopes of direct negotiations, diplomats claimed.
Improper formatting:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-rejects-offer-of-direct-us-nuclear-talks-senior-diplomats-say - my own unique content to spur discussion...
It is our hope that this makes it easier to post an OP in the (now single) BN forum without a fear of receiving points.
Fewer infractions BN MSM was tightly moderated, less work for Mods who are busy enough as it is