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Breaking News: Biden gets another win and an infrastructure bill.

Lisa said:
Are Chinese people going to Mexico to then cross the American border? Do you have any proof of this or just Tucker Carlson?


Does that mean I can get a great duck lo mein in Guadalajara?
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A curious response, to say the least.
 
Callen said:
Good for Biden and the ten Senators. I give Biden great credit for staying balanced, respectful and patient. Even more so from stepping back at the presser and letting the Senators take the limelight. It's not all about him.......refreshing and responsible.
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Not bad for a senile old man.
 
j brown's body said:
Not bad for a senile old man.
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Did you see his presser after the Senators had their moment? Anyone who watched that and thinks this man is senile needs a cognitive test themselves. then again Fox won't likely show it and his speech in its entirety.......which will be fine with them. After all real information is not a good thing in RW circles.
 
SNOWFLAKE said:
Premature celebration.

The R's in the Senate will sink this one.

Can I take odds?
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I think you're going to lose that bet. Manchin needs a bipartisan agreement to demonstrate that they don't need to eliminate the filibuster in order to accomplish anything, and a successful bipartisan deal serves that purpose. If Republicans take the dive on this one, and I believe they will, they get to keep passing voter suppression laws and district Democrats out of power.

This bill takes all the air out of Team Eliminate Filibuster, even if it doesn't change the fundamental need of passing HR1.
 
Callen said:
Did you see his presser after the Senators had their moment? Anyone who watched that and thinks this man is senile needs a cognitive test themselves. then again Fox won't likely show it and his speech in its entirety.......which will be fine with them. After all real information is not a good thing in RW circles.
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the hard right can't stand the man, because he is honest and decent, so they must find ways to hate him. How sad.
 
Day 2 of a walking corpse Joe Biden A mumbling fool. The old man needs to just quut already. Go ahead and turn it over to Kamala Knees Harris for the final scene.
 
What was that leaning on the podium whispering. What a rube.
 
VySky said:
Day 2 of a walking corpse Joe Biden A mumbling fool. The old man needs to just quut already. Go ahead and turn it over to Kamala Knees Harris for the final scene.
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Yet another record-high close today for both the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite indexes

Hope everyone is enjoying the fabulous summer weather and the Biden economic BOOM as much as me... (y) 💰

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S&P 500, Nasdaq close at record highs as bipartisan infrastructure deal spurs economic optimism

President Joe Biden touted the $1 trillion infrastructure package in a press conference, saying it has support from both Democrats and Republicans.
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Thanks again, Joe (y)

By the way, does anybody know if don is still workin' on his "big, beautiful infrastructure plan"?

LMAO
 
j brown's body said:
This is good news for the Democrats. It is important that Biden distinguish himself from Trump and showing that government can work is one way to do it.

It will benefit the Dems going into the mid-terms if they can show Americans that they are making government work.

They are not only selling this bill as a bi-partisan agreement for needed infrastructure repairs, they are claiming it will create jobs and that it is essential for our struggle against China.

McConnell cannot be happy.
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The fact that he nothing to say proves it.
 
Mitch is gonna allow 10 republican votes?
 
element94 said:
Mitch is gonna allow 10 republican votes?
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Yes, now comes the hard part, getting it through Congress. If it doesn't go through, Biden and Dems. need to remind America over an dover an dover, that they tried, but due to GOP obstruction they could not. The majority of Americans are for this bill. They know we need it badly.
 
Napoleon said:
So the Democrats agreed to an infrastructure bill that actually involves infrastructure? That’s good news.
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Yeah, I think people from both parties (within the public, not necessarily Congress) would like this bipartisan bill, if it passes. But, it gets kind of weird from here so we'll see if it can pass. If all Dems are fully on board with part 2 (the unrelated to infrastructure - reconciliation part) and they vocalize that, McConnell might back away from part 1. I can imagine his hope would be for this part 1 bipartisan piece to be the end of it. I know that's what I think makes sense.
But, if those moderate Dems don't give their promise to pass part 2, then the Bernie gang might back away from part 1, fearing part 2 might never happen.
So, I think it gets a little tricky here. Also, I expect the voting public will be much more agreeable to part 1 - people from both parties. Republicans would hate part 2, thinking of it as massively excessive spending on a Dem wish list. We'd have to see where the biggest group (Independents) land in terms of their preference.
So, I think it's a little tricky from here. I know I'd like part 1 and hate part 2. But, some of the congressional Dems are determined to keep the two parts linked and, for now, the Dems certainly have the most control, albeit very small majorities with little wiggle room.
 
gbg3 said:
Yeah, I think people from both parties (within the public, not necessarily Congress) would like this bipartisan bill, if it passes. But, it gets kind of weird from here so we'll see if it can pass. If all Dems are fully on board with part 2 (the unrelated to infrastructure - reconciliation part) and they vocalize that, McConnell might back away from part 1. I can imagine his hope would be for this part 1 bipartisan piece to be the end of it. I know that's what I think makes sense.
But, if those moderate Dems don't give their promise to pass part 2, then the Bernie gang might back away from part 1, fearing part 2 might never happen.
So, I think it gets a little tricky here. Also, I expect the voting public will be much more agreeable to part 1 - people from both parties. Republicans would hate part 2, thinking of it as massively excessive spending on a Dem wish list. We'd have to see where the biggest group (Independents) land in terms of their preference.
So, I think it's a little tricky from here. I know I'd like part 1 and hate part 2. But, some of the congressional Dems are determined to keep the two parts linked and, for now, the Dems certainly have the most control, albeit very small majorities with little wiggle room.
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Well, from one person with no party loyalty - I only support part 1. But Biden has already said he’d veto it unless the Democrats give him part 2 at the same time.
 
SNOWFLAKE said:
Premature celebration.

The R's in the Senate will sink this one.

Can I take odds?
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I have to agree this is premature celebration. It may work but as I discussed in comment #44, I think there is still a lot which can prevent it. I'd give it a 50/50 chance though.
 
Subieguy said:
Yes, now comes the hard part, getting it through Congress. If it doesn't go through, Biden and Dems. need to remind America over an dover an dover, that they tried, but due to GOP obstruction they could not. The majority of Americans are for this bill. They know we need it badly.
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Mitch has made it clear he will obstruct. It will be interesting, but I really don't think Mitch gives a damn.
 
element94 said:
Mitch has made it clear he will obstruct. It will be interesting, but I really don't think Mitch gives a damn.
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He sees this as an impediment to winning in 2022. He would love to go into that election claiming either that the Dems got nothing done OR the Dems are tyrants ramming through partisan, socialist laws and they must be stopped.

A bi-partisan infrastructure law, after all this time, is a pretty big deal.
 
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