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BREAKING: Florida Senate Passes Legislation Ending Disney’s Tax Privilege, Self-Governing Power, and Special Exemption Status (1 Viewer)

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BREAKING: The Florida Senate just passed DeSantis' congressional map that creates four new GOP-leaning districts, wipes out Dem gains in redistricting across the nation, and removes Disney’s self-governing power and special exempt status.
 
I don't know that this will pass the courts. Hopefully not. Though I'm not in support of a special law that gives a corp self-governance and governance of any part of any state in the US.
 

BREAKING: The Florida Senate just passed DeSantis' congressional map that creates four new GOP-leaning districts, wipes out Dem gains in redistricting across the nation, and removes Disney’s self-governing power and special exempt status.

Good.

If you are a corporation taking political action and openly threatening to use influence/wealth/power to challenge democratic principles, expect to have political action taken in response.

Why anyone should think corporate entities, or any business for that matter, should be immune from "reaction" seems to forget all those public actions holding them accountable in the past.

Anyone remember the Florida Orange Juice boycott over their anti-gay agenda?
 
Here’s what dissolving Disney’s Reedy Creek could mean for taxpayers Not Safe For Magic "Reedy Creek historically operates at a loss of approximately $5 to $10 million per year, per its financial reports. The current arrangement renders that meaningless since Disney is able to subsidize its own operations with theme park revenue. According to lawmakers, though, there is as much as $1 billion in debt on the balance sheets that for which taxpayers would become responsible, possibly amounting to as much as thousands of dollars per household." https://www.wftv.com/news/local/her...ld-mean-taxpayers/V2HN3MBIVFCP5EYZXT7UC4X4KA/
 

BREAKING: The Florida Senate just passed DeSantis' congressional map that creates four new GOP-leaning districts, wipes out Dem gains in redistricting across the nation, and removes Disney’s self-governing power and special exempt status.
were the little republicans butthurt because Disney spoke out against their law about talking about LGBTQ issues? Pathetic republicans. According to the SCOTUS corporations are people and that gave Disney freedom of expression. But hey, never doubt the pathetic nature of the senate republicans in Florida
 
If you are a corporation taking political action and openly threatening to use influence/wealth/power to challenge democratic principles, expect to have political action taken in response.

You mean a company should expect the government to punish them for oppositional political speech?

I love comments like this, they just blow the narrative open. You guys don't support "free speech," and you never have.
 
MSNBC asked which entity we should cheer for: Disney and its big money that has gotten every break it wanted or the fascist governor who doesn't care about the citizens of Florida and is only trying cynical moves to become president. Gee, they are both such appealing entities. How to choose? Don't forget Florida is a swamp.
 
The truth is, Disney has always been a pretty crappy company to deal with for the State of Florida. Most of the people who have lived in Florida since before Disney aren't too fond of the corporation. Lots of dirty backroom deals. I've met a lot of former Disney workers who had terrible stories from working there.

If a company wishes to keep special status, they should stay out of politics. Pretty simple, really.
 
Who is a fan of companies having special government like powers/privileges in perpetuity?

I honestly cannot recall in my 20 years of discussing politics on line anyone ever raising a question about this specific case.

I wonder why its so important now?
 
State/Federal governments making money off that company existing there.
They make money off Universal Studios and Sea World among other Orlando area attractions; in fact, such an arrangements as the creation of Reedy Creek Improvement District for the benefit of a company is no longer legal after the 1968 change to the Florida Constitution. 55 years is a long time.
 
The truth is, Disney has always been a pretty crappy company to deal with for the State of Florida. Most of the people who have lived in Florida since before Disney aren't too fond of the corporation. Lots of dirty backroom deals. I've met a lot of former Disney workers who had terrible stories from working there.

If a company wishes to keep special status, they should stay out of politics. Pretty simple, really.

So they should not be able to make campaign contributions or lobby for or against bills?

Let's be honest. If they had expressed support for the "don't say straight bill", they would have been fine.

Its not about staying out of politics, its about appeasing the ruling party.
 
I honestly cannot recall in my 20 years of discussing politics on line anyone ever raising a question about this specific case.

I wonder why its so important now?
The fascist governor of Florida makes it interesting, but only because he may become President of the United States.
 
I honestly cannot recall in my 20 years of discussing politics on line anyone ever raising a question about this specific case.

I wonder why its so important now?
Because Governors who have the power to call their legislature for single issue special sessions get to set the agenda. Thank goodness that is the extent of the governor's power. If you aren't from Florida and didn't see an attempt to do the same thing in South Florida for "Wayne's [Huizinga] World" then you would likely not be familiar with the issue.
 
If a company wishes to keep special status, they should stay out of politics. Pretty simple, really.

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Again - this is where the argument goes off the rails.

There's a real conversation to be had about Disney's special status - although I think you'll find that in the end, it's helped the state a lot more than it's hurt it.

But as soon as you tie that special status to having the wrong political opinion, your argument becomes openly authoritarian.
 
They make money off Universal Studios and Sea World among other Orlando area attractions; in fact, such an arrangements as the creation of Reedy Creek Improvement District for the benefit of a company is no longer legal after the 1968 change to the Florida Constitution. 55 years is a long time.

What are the chances that Disney being located in central Florida influenced the decisions to put Universal studios and Sea World in the same area?
 
They make money off Universal Studios and Sea World among other Orlando area attractions; in fact, such an arrangements as the creation of Reedy Creek Improvement District for the benefit of a company is no longer legal after the 1968 change to the Florida Constitution. 55 years is a long time.
Well the State is going to pick up quite the tab.

Let's not be coy here, FL wasn't worried about the deal they had with Disney until the CEO said something. This isn't some altruistic review of policy and agreement. This is specifically government retribution against the exercise of free speech.
 
Because Governors who have the power to call their legislature for single issue special sessions get to set the agenda. Thank goodness that is the extent of the governor's power. If you aren't from Florida and didn't see an attempt to do the same thing in South Florida for "Wayne's [Huizinga] World" then you would likely not be familiar with the issue.

Do you think he would have exercised this arbitrary use of power if Disney had expressed support for his new law?
 
They make money off Universal Studios and Sea World among other Orlando area attractions; in fact, such an arrangements as the creation of Reedy Creek Improvement District for the benefit of a company is no longer legal after the 1968 change to the Florida Constitution. 55 years is a long time.

Universal and Sea World built parks there because Disney turned Orlando from a desert wasteland without any water and power lines into the massive presence that it is today. They did not break the ice. They do not pay for all of their own services like Disney does. Disney made it easy for them to build there.
 
What are the chances that Disney being located in central Florida influenced the decisions to put Universal studios and Sea World in the same area?
You are leading up to a point, please make it.
 
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Again - this is where the argument goes off the rails.

There's a real conversation to be had about Disney's special status - although I think you'll find that in the end, it's helped the state a lot more than it's hurt it.

But as soon as you tie that special status to having the wrong political opinion, your argument becomes openly authoritarian.

It wasn't politics. It was taking the wrong side in politics.
 

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