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Break up of United Kingdom a serious possibility.

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Scotland wants a new referendum and is doing the paper work to do so.

Nicola Sturgeon announces plans for second Scottish independence referendum after UK votes for Brexit | UK Politics | News | The Independent

Northern Ireland is contemplating demanding independence to join the rest of Ireland.

EU referendum result: Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness calls for border poll on united Ireland after Brexit | UK Politics | News | The Independent

Politicians and people in London and other major metropolitan areas are contemplating going for independence from the United Kingdom as well.

It's time for London to leave the UK | Voices | The Independent

And of course because Farage the fool said that if the result was close and in favour of stay, then he would demand a new vote. Well now it was for leave, but that has not stopped a petition on the government website for a second referendum.

Brexit: Petition for second EU referendum so popular the government site's crashing | UK | News | The Independent


Along with the chaos with no government to deal with this for at least 3 months... then it looks more and more like Great Britain is in serious trouble and will break up with in the next few years.
 

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To be fair, i don't understand why North Ireland ISN'T part of greater ireland to begin with.
 
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Scotland wants a new referendum and is doing the paper work to do so.

Nicola Sturgeon announces plans for second Scottish independence referendum after UK votes for Brexit | UK Politics | News | The Independent

Northern Ireland is contemplating demanding independence to join the rest of Ireland.

EU referendum result: Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness calls for border poll on united Ireland after Brexit | UK Politics | News | The Independent

Politicians and people in London and other major metropolitan areas are contemplating going for independence from the United Kingdom as well.

It's time for London to leave the UK | Voices | The Independent

And of course because Farage the fool said that if the result was close and in favour of stay, then he would demand a new vote. Well now it was for leave, but that has not stopped a petition on the government website for a second referendum.

Brexit: Petition for second EU referendum so popular the government site's crashing | UK | News | The Independent


Along with the chaos with no government to deal with this for at least 3 months... then it looks more and more like Great Britain is in serious trouble and will break up with in the next few years.

You get a freedom, You get a freedom, EVERYONE GETS A FREEDOM!
 

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To be fair, i don't understand white North Ireland ISN'T part of greater ireland to begin with.

Because it was the plantation for all the Protestants--- some big landowners but they also imported Scots to do the dirty work--- over the years.

When the rest of the island broke away the Protestants up north were worried that the Catholics would do unto the, as they had done unto others all those years and the English were more then willing.
 

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To be fair, i don't understand why North Ireland ISN'T part of greater ireland to begin with.

The British took it.

But all this "the UK is going to break up" stuff I think is a bit hybolic at this point. They just had a vote, the UK is still in the EU today. Maybe Parliament adheres to the vote to leave, and then we're still looking at years for the UK to leave. And who knows, in that time maybe the UK has another vote and elects to stay.

We dont know at this point. And then the whole UK will break up...maybe there are votes in the distant future, but it's unlikely to actually break apart. And London particularly wont break away.

This is all Chicken Little.nonsense by people reacting emotionally rather than logically. It's all going to get sorted in the end.
 

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To be fair, i don't understand why North Ireland ISN'T part of greater ireland to begin with.

Because Northern Ireland was the seat of rebellion before and after Elizabeth I. James I (VI of Scotland) planted northern Ireland as a method of control and annexation. For the North to join the Republic would be putting things back the way they once were. Ulster however has always been wild: it's location between Scotland and southern Ireland made it a melting pot of fighting and immigration.

I'll be glad to see them drop out of the UK, but I don't think it will go.
 

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Scotland wants a new referendum and is doing the paper work to do so.

Nicola Sturgeon announces plans for second Scottish independence referendum after UK votes for Brexit | UK Politics | News | The Independent

Northern Ireland is contemplating demanding independence to join the rest of Ireland.

EU referendum result: Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness calls for border poll on united Ireland after Brexit | UK Politics | News | The Independent

Politicians and people in London and other major metropolitan areas are contemplating going for independence from the United Kingdom as well.

It's time for London to leave the UK | Voices | The Independent

And of course because Farage the fool said that if the result was close and in favour of stay, then he would demand a new vote. Well now it was for leave, but that has not stopped a petition on the government website for a second referendum.

Brexit: Petition for second EU referendum so popular the government site's crashing | UK | News | The Independent


Along with the chaos with no government to deal with this for at least 3 months... then it looks more and more like Great Britain is in serious trouble and will break up with in the next few years.

I think that the British Isles will be fine. There will be upheaval for sure, but in the end, things will go back to where they once were before all this globalization, which in my view would be a good thing. We all thought the same thing when England marched out of India, but everything's okay; her majesty's not going anywhere.
 

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I think that the British Isles will be fine. There will be upheaval for sure, but in the end, things will go back to where they once were before all this globalization, which in my view would be a good thing. We all thought the same thing when England marched out of India, but everything's okay; her majesty's not going anywhere.
Good one :lamo:lamo:lamo

She ain't marching back in either ;)
 

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Because it was the plantation for all the Protestants--- some big landowners but they also imported Scots to do the dirty work--- over the years.

When the rest of the island broke away the Protestants up north were worried that the Catholics would do unto the, as they had done unto others all those years and the English were more then willing.

Yeah, and there's this thing in Northern Ireland about not wanting the Church to rule every facet of their lives.
 

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Because Northern Ireland was the seat of rebellion before and after Elizabeth I. James I (VI of Scotland) planted northern Ireland as a method of control and annexation. For the North to join the Republic would be putting things back the way they once were. Ulster however has always been wild: it's location between Scotland and southern Ireland made it a melting pot of fighting and immigration.

I'll be glad to see them drop out of the UK, but I don't think it will go.

If Northern Ireland joins the Irish Republic, where do women in Northern Ireland get birth control? Or an abortion?
 

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Scotland wants a new referendum and is doing the paper work to do so.

Nicola Sturgeon announces plans for second Scottish independence referendum after UK votes for Brexit | UK Politics | News | The Independent

Northern Ireland is contemplating demanding independence to join the rest of Ireland.

EU referendum result: Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness calls for border poll on united Ireland after Brexit | UK Politics | News | The Independent

Politicians and people in London and other major metropolitan areas are contemplating going for independence from the United Kingdom as well.

It's time for London to leave the UK | Voices | The Independent

And of course because Farage the fool said that if the result was close and in favour of stay, then he would demand a new vote. Well now it was for leave, but that has not stopped a petition on the government website for a second referendum.

Brexit: Petition for second EU referendum so popular the government site's crashing | UK | News | The Independent


Along with the chaos with no government to deal with this for at least 3 months... then it looks more and more like Great Britain is in serious trouble and will break up with in the next few years.

They need to hurry up before the EU splits apart or there will nothing for Scotland, London, et al., to join.
 

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Do you understand why the state New Mexico isn't part of the country Mexico?

:lol:

Think about it a little bit.

The reasons are similar.

And then there's the thing about the number of Northern Ireland men that fought for the UK during two world wars. In the second one, you may remember, the Irish Republic ws full of Nazi sympathizers and they refused both the Brits and the Americans use of their airfields and ports to protect the convoys from America.

The IRA supported the Nazis in WW2
 

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Scotland wants a new referendum and is doing the paper work to do so.

No surprise there..

~ Northern Ireland is contemplating demanding independence to join the rest of Ireland ~

Too early for that to happen yet.

If Northern Ireland joins the Irish Republic, where do women in Northern Ireland get birth control? Or an abortion?

There'll be cheap travel to Europe.

You raise something else though - historically our largest immigrant population is the Irish. They will be the "canary" of what is left of our economy. If they keep coming in large numbers we're doing OK. If we start heading there for work, we're in the sh*t..
 

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Yeah, and there's this thing in Northern Ireland about not wanting the Church to rule every facet of their lives.

Ok, first off, this wasn't a "religious vs. secular" thing--- this was Protestantism and Catholicism.

Secondly, what. Ireland has always been a predominantly Catholic country, but even there the Church doesn't control every facet of people's lives.
 
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And then there's the thing about the number of Northern Ireland men that fought for the UK during two world wars. In the second one, you may remember, the Irish Republic ws full of Nazi sympathizers and they refused both the Brits and the Americans use of their airfields and ports to protect the convoys from America.

The IRA supported the Nazis in WW2

The IRA may have supported the Germans---shocking, I know :roll:

But Ireland, despite never officially jumping in, clearly was pro allied. After all, every time an allied pilot went down on Irish soil, they were back over the border within hours, while German pilots were interned.

You also had a massive number of Irish citizens who fought on the Allied side.
 
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You raise something else though - historically our largest immigrant population is the Irish. They will be the "canary" of what is left of our economy. If they keep coming in large numbers we're doing OK. If we start heading there for work, we're in the sh*t..

The main trending searches in the UK (from what I undestand) is... What is the EU followed by How to get Irish citizenship...
 

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~ How to get Irish citizenship...

Yeah, I read that a few days ago, may have posted it on the Brexit/Bremain thread. Next one will be what are my Scottish roots...
 

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I assume Scotland will not be part of the U.K. much longer...but I thought that before all the Brexit stuff.

Will they call it Scexit? Scoxit?

Every good referendum has to have a cool name.

I thought 'Brexit' was a pretty good name.
 

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Because they don´t want to be?

That might not be true anymore as there has apparently been a run for Irish passports and most likely an increase in Republicanism which has always been 50/50.
 

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Any country [and some states] who are part of a larger union are exposing themselves to a greater bureaucracy than is necessary. The larger the government the more Socialist it becomes.
 
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