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I can't wait to see this defended. It seems zero tolerance should be for the real thing. Boys have been known to show up with real guns in back packs. No tolerance for that is appropriate.


VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) - A seventh grade Virginia Beach student previously suspended for shooting an airsoft gun has been expelled, WAVY.com has learned.

During a hearing Tuesday morning, Aidan Clark was expelled in a unanimous vote. The fate of Khalid Caraballo remains unknown at this time.

Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo's private property.

Aidan’s father, Tim Clark, told WAVY.com what happened next lacks commons sense. The children were suspended for possession, handling and use of a firearm.


http://www.wavy.com/news/local/va-beach/has-zero-tolerance-gone-too-far
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

I can't wait to see this defended. It seems zero tolerance should be for the real thing. Boys have been known to show up with real guns in back packs. No tolerance for that is appropriate.

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) - A seventh grade Virginia Beach student previously suspended for shooting an airsoft gun has been expelled, WAVY.com has learned.

During a hearing Tuesday morning, Aidan Clark was expelled in a unanimous vote. The fate of Khalid Caraballo remains unknown at this time.

Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo's private property.

Aidan’s father, Tim Clark, told WAVY.com what happened next lacks commons sense. The children were suspended for possession, handling and use of a firearm.


WAVY - Has zero tolerance gone too far | WAVY.com | Virginia Beach

It's all innocent fun until somebody puts an eye out.
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

Seriously? A firearm? That is insane. Even pellet rifles, which can cause more injury aren't classified as firearms. Seems way over-the-top.

And a reoccurring problem, too.
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

It's all innocent fun until somebody puts an eye out.

Skate boarding and bicycling is all fun until a crash and a broken neck. Riding dirt bikes is all fun until a crash and a comatose child. Playing Ping Pong ball is all fun until a ball is slammed and some bodies eye is put out. Here's the relevant. SUSPENDED FOR POSSESSION AND USE OF A FIREARM. It's no such thing. Even if your anti gun or anti kids playing and having fun in sports that could injure them, this charge is FALSE. Oh, and they were in their own yard making it none of the schools business.
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

Skate boarding and bicycling is all fun until a crash and a broken neck. Riding dirt bikes is all fun until a crash and a comatose child. Playing Ping Pong ball is all fun until a ball is slammed and some bodies eye is put out. Here's the relevant. SUSPENDED FOR POSSESSION AND USE OF A FIREARM. It's no such thing. Even if your anti gun or anti kids playing and having fun in sports that could injure them, this charge is FALSE. Oh, and they were in their own yard making it none of the schools business.

If you're complaining about the reason, I'm with you there. If I were that student's parents, I would fight to get that changed. Right after I threw his "replica firearm" in the garbage.
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

If you're complaining about the reason, I'm with you there. If I were that student's parents, I would fight to get that changed. Right after I threw his "replica firearm" in the garbage.

Why should he lose the gun?
 

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Why should he lose the gun?

One of the links I read said that, even though one boy was running away, he was hit. That's unacceptable. As is playing with it in the front yard -- which is an assumption I'm making that's probably correct.
 

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But, a firearms offense? Airsoft is not a firearm, nor is a pellet gun.

Air guns in many states are now considered firearms by definition.
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

I can't wait to see this defended. It seems zero tolerance should be for the real thing. Boys have been known to show up with real guns in back packs. No tolerance for that is appropriate.


VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) - A seventh grade Virginia Beach student previously suspended for shooting an airsoft gun has been expelled, WAVY.com has learned.

During a hearing Tuesday morning, Aidan Clark was expelled in a unanimous vote. The fate of Khalid Caraballo remains unknown at this time.

Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo's private property.

Aidan’s father, Tim Clark, told WAVY.com what happened next lacks commons sense. The children were suspended for possession, handling and use of a firearm.


WAVY - Has zero tolerance gone too far | WAVY.com | Virginia Beach

If anything, at the most, it is a police issue since it didn't happen on school property.
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

One of the links I read said that, even though one boy was running away, he was hit. That's unacceptable. As is playing with it in the front yard -- which is an assumption I'm making that's probably correct.

According to some neighbor looking through a dirty window from 100ft away.
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

If you're complaining about the reason, I'm with you there. If I were that student's parents, I would fight to get that changed. Right after I threw his "replica firearm" in the garbage.

Well then we agree. And throwing the replica firearm in the trash is certainly a parents prerogative. But not the schools.
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

One of the links I read said that, even though one boy was running away, he was hit. That's unacceptable. As is playing with it in the front yard -- which is an assumption I'm making that's probably correct.

airSOFT!!
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

Skate boarding and bicycling is all fun until a crash and a broken neck. Riding dirt bikes is all fun until a crash and a comatose child. Playing Ping Pong ball is all fun until a ball is slammed and some bodies eye is put out. Here's the relevant. SUSPENDED FOR POSSESSION AND USE OF A FIREARM. It's no such thing. Even if your anti gun or anti kids playing and having fun in sports that could injure them, this charge is FALSE. Oh, and they were in their own yard making it none of the schools business.
Got to get them little animals institutionalized asap. The G dont miss a beat.
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

Have parents and administrators lost their minds? This is getting out of control. Thank God my kid is grown up.

I can remember growing up playing war games, dodge ball, king of the hill, etc. Sometimes someone brought a sling shot to school for show and tell.

Guess super soakers are out of the question for school also:mrgreen:

Parents should teach there kids what is play and what is real when it comes to life.

I think I long for the 50's and 60's for kids today as far as growing up.
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

One of the links I read said that, even though one boy was running away, he was hit. That's unacceptable. As is playing with it in the front yard -- which is an assumption I'm making that's probably correct.

What wrong with playing with it in the front yard? Kids all across the country do that.....
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

What wrong with playing with it in the front yard? Kids all across the country do that.....

Really? Well, maybe I don't understand what an airsoft gun is. I understand it shoots plastic pellets using compressed air. If you hit someone in the eye with one, can you blind them? If you can, then it has no business EVER being aimed at a human being. Nor being shot anywhere someone could accidentally get hit with it.

Sometimes I think I'm in the Twilight Zone.
 

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Really? Well, maybe I don't understand what an airsoft gun is. I understand it shoots plastic pellets using compressed air. If you hit someone in the eye with one, can you blind them? If you can, then it has no business EVER being aimed at a human being. Nor being shot anywhere someone could accidentally get hit with it.

Sometimes I think I'm in the Twilight Zone.

Me too!
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

Part of me can't stand these zero tolerance polices...part of me can't blame school administrations for them when our sue happy, "it's always the authorities fault", society caused them to come into existance by raising hell anytime a school administrator made a decision that someone felt was unfair about their "special little snowflake".
 

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Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

Really? Well, maybe I don't understand what an airsoft gun is. I understand it shoots plastic pellets using compressed air. If you hit someone in the eye with one, can you blind them? If you can, then it has no business EVER being aimed at a human being. Nor being shot anywhere someone could accidentally get hit with it.

Sometimes I think I'm in the Twilight Zone.


Maybe I'm missing something but it seems obvious to me that Maggie is speaking as a mother and talking about rules she'd place on her kids, not as a citizen proposing we ban or otherwise control these kind of toys with laws.
 
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