David G
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The Bernie insurgency is highlighting some differences among Democrats, for sure. But probably the Republicans are closer to such a split - echoing the split back when the Whigs became two parties: Republicans; KnowNothings.
The issue in both cases is a populist movement. Brought on by the dysfunction that manifests when we let our economy swing toward the oligarchic excesses of too much laissez-faire. Whether they've done the full analysis or not - mainstream R's are realizing they're on a kamikaze course. And many D's are realizing that there's been entirely too much collusion in promoting that agenda, and too little resistance.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/12/gop-...adline|headline|story&par=yahoo&doc=103630468
" Blumenthal said the Whig Party broke up for the same reason divisions are emerging in the Republican Party. The party was riven apart by disagreements over race and immigration, he said.
The Southern U.S.-centered Know Nothing members were nativists who objected to a wave of immigration, while Abraham Lincoln was anti-nativist, he said. In order to set up a new party, Lincoln had to figure out how to deal with a movement of radical abolitionists, Blumenthal added.
"So you had to deal with the party people and the movement people, so it all sounds similar, not only on the Republican side, but also on the Democratic side today," he said."
When both ruling parties split it will be a good day for American and for the world.
Will we then just have 4 ****ty parties? :2razz:
When both ruling parties split it will be a good day for American and for the world.
Somehow Trump has been able to harness the enthusiasm of the TEA party movement without any of the core principles.
Exactly. We're not supposed to be ruled by parties.
We can go to parties, but not be ruled by them.
Perhaps, but I don't think I've heard Trumpistas say anything about the Tea Party at all, but quite a bit about the establishment. I suppose that after '10 and '14, the Tea party could be argued as becoming establishment; Cruz certainly got painted that way.Very different people, very different enthusiasms. If anything, Trumpism is an anti-Tea Party counterrevolution. Trump followers perceive the Tea Party slogans (constitutionalism, limited government, free markets, fiscal responsibility) as "elitist talk", and pro-immigration classical liberals who were leading the tea parties as traitors.
Perhaps, but I don't think I've heard Trumpistas say anything about the Tea Party at all, but quite a bit about the establishment. I suppose that after '10 and '14, the Tea party could be argued as becoming establishment; Cruz certainly got painted that way.
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