Bombings kill at least 68 in Iraq

[CurrentAffairs]

No the memo I got from the real world unlike the make-believe world you live in said it was because he (Saddam) didn’t follow the UN resolutions...The liberation chit was added on later but you must have been watching oprah at the time…:roll:

Great debate with the Hatuey boy. You owned him completely! Nice job!

 

[Hatuey]

No the memo I got from the real world unlike the make-believe world you live in said it was because he (Saddam) didn’t follow the UN resolutions...The liberation chit was added on later but you must have been watching oprah at the time…:roll:

What was added when is irrelevant to the debate. The fact remains that one of the reasons for going to war with Iraq was to liberate the Iraqi people from Saddams grip. If you still want to argue about that please be my guest it'll be good to see quotes from our Commander and chief, Collin power and Donald Rumsfeld agree with me for once.

As for CA. Do you ever say anything with meaning? :|

 

[PrimBabUB]

Thanks for confirming what I have suspected all along. It explains a lot.

Yeah, it does.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

What was added when is irrelevant to the debate. The fact remains that one of the reasons for going to war with Iraq was to liberate the Iraqi people from Saddams grip. If you still want to argue about that please be my guest it'll be good to see quotes from our Commander and chief, Collin power and Donald Rumsfeld agree with me for once.

Yes, liberating the good people of Iraq was one of the reasons. So was WMD . So was our commitment to erdicate terrorists and anyone who harbored them.

As for CA. Do you ever say anything with meaning? :|

Yes, see post #26 above.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Yeah, it does.

:rofl I had been suspecting his youth for quite some time. Many things became very clear once he confirmed it.

 

[Morrow]

Just foaming at the mouth to see 3000 US soldiers killed in action......to bad a coward like you couldn't take the place of any of those 3000.......I am sure someone might miss you, but I highly doubt it........

I know this, I would miss Hatuey's comments. I'm starting to think I could do without yours.

 

[Hatuey]

:rofl I had been suspecting his youth for quite some time. Many things became very clear once he confirmed it.

Did you suspect this before or after I posted I was 20 like 2 days after after I joined the forum? :|

 

[Hatuey]

Yes, liberating the good people of Iraq was one of the reasons. So was WMD . So was our commitment to erdicate terrorists and anyone who harbored them.

Ok let me get this straight....Cherokee has implied that the human rights abuses commited by Saddam Hussein was not one of the reasons for going to war against Saddam and that it was "added on later". This is disproven by the fact that he was tried and executed for his crimes against humanity and not because he "Violated U.N. sanctions". Now he's said that this war is not about the Iraqi people. Obviously it is since in the words of our Commander and Chief, one of our main goals was to liberate them from the hands of an evil tyrant. Are you still following? Aside from all these contradictions Cherokee has manage to construct in a very wierd manner. You seem to agree with me that liberating the good people of Iraq was one of the reasons for invading Iraq. So now I find myself in a very odd possition. I'm trying to figure out how you can be arguing with me and clearly agreeing with every point I've made so far at the same time.

On top of that. Cherokee has also stated that he doesn't care about the Iraqi people, only our troops and that at the same time he supports them in their mission. Obviously as stated by many before me by many of your fellow conservatives(Like NP and Doughgirl.) if you support our troops it's because you care and agree about and with the same things they do. It is clear that our troops care about the Iraqi people and their freedom otherwise there would be Mai-Lai like massacres in Iraq being commited by our troops on a regular basis. This, thankfully is not the case. Are you still following? So to say that you dont care about the Iraqi people is a direct insult to what they are there to do, their mission and the reasons they are there and our troops and pretty much means you've just contradicted yourself to a ridiculous extent. Thank you very much.:2wave:

 

[Cold Dirt]

I know this, I would miss Hatuey's comments. I'm starting to think I could do without yours.

Another liberal coward to ashamed to admit to what they are are.


Independent my ***.........

 

[cherokee]

Ok let me get this straight....Cherokee has implied that the human rights abuses commited by Saddam Hussein was not one of the reasons for going to war against Saddam and that it was "added on later".
This is disproven by the fact that he was tried and executed for his crimes against humanity and not because he "Violated U.N. sanctions". Now he's said that this war is not about the Iraqi people. Obviously it is since in the words of our Commander and Chief, one of our main goals was to liberate them from the hands of an evil tyrant.

Bullchit! You’re trying to twist chit around again. (You really suck at it)
Do you deny the fact that it was the violations of the UN resolutions that lead to military actions? The fact he killed his own people wouldn’t have done jack chit to jumpstart an invasion. How many did he kill after the Gulf War? Look at the number of people who die each and every month around the world from people just like Saddam.
Your bullchit about crimes against humanity didn’t hold any water for Bush and it damn sure doesn’t hold any water for you now. The world doesn’t fooking care. Just like it didn’t care about the people of Rwanda. (Close to one million dead in 100 days).
But hell lets look at this little fact..

April 5 1991
RESOLUTION 688 (1991)
Adopted by the Security Council at its 2982nd meeting on 5 April 1991
Demands that Iraq stop its repression of the Iraqi civilian population.
Security Council resolution 688 (1991) on the situation between Iraq and Kuwait

Tell me something why wasnt anything ever done about it?..hmmm?

Are you still following? Aside from all these contradictions Cherokee has manage to construct in a very wierd manner. You seem to agree with me that liberating the good people of Iraq was one of the reasons for invading Iraq. So now I find myself in a very odd possition. I'm trying to figure out how you can be arguing with me and clearly agreeing with every point I've made so far at the same time.

Why cant you grasp the FACT that liberating Iraq was added on by bush was just bullchit for the American people to buy? From the sounds of it you bought plenty.

On top of that. Cherokee has also stated that he doesn't care about the Iraqi people, only our troops and that at the same time he supports them in their mission. Obviously as stated by many before me by many of your fellow conservatives(Like NP and Doughgirl.) if you support our troops it's because you care and agree about and with the same things they do.
It is clear that our troops care about the Iraqi people and their
freedom otherwise there would be Mai-Lai like massacres in Iraq being commited by our troops on a regular basis. This, thankfully is not the case. Are you still following? So to say that you dont care about the Iraqi people is a direct insult to what they are there to do, their mission and the reasons they are there and our troops and pretty much means you've just contradicted yourself to a ridiculous extent. Thank you very much.:2wave:

I’ll try and explain this one more time one more time.
The only concern I have in Iraq is for our troops. PERIOD! After the mess was made I thought “Maybe some good will come of this, Maybe the people of Iraq would stand up and rebuild their country”. Note that I never supported the means/reasons we went into Iraq but the mess is made and we must clean it up.
Now the people of Iraq have decided they don’t want a better life, they don’t want a better place to raise their kids. They want to slaughter themselves instead of building a free Iraq. This is why I don’t care if they live or die.
Some believe they can still salvage the country and I support their decision but it doesn’t mean I have to like the Iraqi people by any means. If our Troops said today “We tried but its no use, we need to pull out” I would support their decision and greet them as proud warriors on their return home and I still wouldn’t give a chit about the Iraqi people.
Now did you follow all of that or do I need to draw it out in crayon for you?

 

[CurrentAffairs]

So to say that you dont care about the Iraqi people is a direct insult to what they are there to do, their mission and the reasons they are there and our troops and pretty much means you've just contradicted yourself to a ridiculous extent. Thank you very much.:2wave:

Show me where I said I don't care about the Iraqi people. You are making zero sense, Hatuey. Now hurry, you're late for Study Hall.

 

[Hatuey]

Bullchit! You’re trying to twist chit around again. (You really suck at it)
Do you deny the fact that it was the violations of the UN resolutions that lead to military actions? The fact he killed his own people wouldn’t have done jack chit to jumpstart an invasion. How many did he kill after the Gulf War? Look at the number of people who die each and every month around the world from people just like Saddam.Your bullchit about crimes against humanity didn’t hold any water for Bush and it damn sure doesn’t hold any water for you now. The world doesn’t fooking care. Just like it didn’t care about the people of Rwanda. (Close to one million dead in 100 days).
But hell lets look at this little fact..

April 5 1991
RESOLUTION 688 (1991)
Adopted by the Security Council at its 2982nd meeting on 5 April 1991
Demands that Iraq stop its repression of the Iraqi civilian population.
Security Council resolution 688 (1991) on the situation between Iraq and Kuwait

Tell me something why wasnt anything ever done about it?..hmmm?

What was Saddam tried and executed for? Oh thats right.....:roll:

The first trial of Saddam Hussein began before the Iraqi Special Tribunal on October 19, 2005. In this case Hussein and seven other defendants were tried for allegations of crimes against humanity with regard to events that took place after a failed assassination attempt in Dujail in 1982 by members of the Islamic Dawa Party (see also human rights abuses in Iraq). On November 5, 2006, Saddam was sentenced to death by hanging. On December 26, Saddam's appeal was rejected and the death sentence upheld. No further appeals were taken and Saddam was ordered executed within 30 days of that date. The date and place of the execution was secret until the sentence was carried out

A second and separate trial began in August 2006, trying Saddam and six co-defendants for genocide during the Anfal military campaign against the Kurds of northern Iraq. Saddam may also have been tried in absentia for events dating to the Iran-Iraq War and the Invasion of Kuwait, including war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide.

Trial of Saddam Hussein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why cant you grasp the FACT that liberating Iraq was added on by bush was just bullchit for the American people to buy? From the sounds of it you bought plenty.

Hey buddy I only follow what our Commander and Chief says. If he says it was to liberate the Iraqis. Hey thats what I'll believe.

I’ll try and explain this one more time one more time.
The only concern I have in Iraq is for our troops. PERIOD! After the mess was made I thought “Maybe some good will come of this, Maybe the people of Iraq would stand up and rebuild their country”. Note that I never supported the means/reasons we went into Iraq but the mess is made and we must clean it up.
Now the people of Iraq have decided they don’t want a better life, they don’t want a better place to raise their kids. They want to slaughter themselves instead of building a free Iraq. This is why I don’t care if they live or die.
Some believe they can still salvage the country and I support their decision but it doesn’t mean I have to like the Iraqi people by any means. If our Troops said today “We tried but its no use, we need to pull out” I would support their decision and greet them as proud warriors on their return home and I still wouldn’t give a chit about the Iraqi people.
Now did you follow all of that or do I need to draw it out in crayon for you?

LOL yes but the sad reality is our troops care enough about the Iraqi people that they want to stay and give "freedom" and "stability" to the Iraqis. Now why can't you care like they do? And you say you support our troops. :roll:

Show me where I said I don't care about the Iraqi people. You are making zero sense, Hatuey. Now hurry, you're late for Study Hall.

Did you take reading comprehension in school? You dont know that "You" as spoken in the sentence is not a literally directed at you CA.:roll:

 

[Hatuey]

Word of advice CA if you're going to try to hit a nerve don't go for my age. It'll only make me laugh at the fact that I'm better off financialy then most 30-40 year olds in America. Meaning you'll rub my ego in a good way :mrgreen:

 

[cherokee]

What was Saddam tried and executed for? Oh thats right.....:roll: Trial of Saddam Hussein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I hate to bust your bubble but hmm It was the Iraqi government that executed Saddam not the US. But anyways soooo you’re saying the US spent over 11 plus years waiting for the opportune moment to invade Iraq so that Saddam could be executed for his crimes against the Iraqi people? If you believe that I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

Hey buddy I only follow what our Commander and Chief says. If he says it was to liberate the Iraqis. Hey thats what I'll believe.

WOW that makes you an idiot just like bush…:roll:
I feel sorry for since you have selective hearing and you believe this war was to save the Iraqi people.

LOL yes but the sad reality is our troops care enough about the Iraqi people that they want to stay and give "freedom" and "stability" to the Iraqis. Now why can't you care like they do?

Where did I leave that staple gun at?
Hatuey, needs a post-a-note stapled to his forehead.

And you say you support our troops. :roll:

DO NOT question my loyalty to my Military!
I place each and every one of them above every Iraqi on the face of this earth.
I would rather read about 10,000 Iraqi’s dying then read one report of a US troop being wounded and I’m talking about shaving (a razor cut)
And just so you know…I place them above you as well.

 

[cherokee]

Word of advice CA if you're going to try to hit a nerve don't go for my age. It'll only make me laugh at the fact that I'm better off financialy then most 30-40 year olds in America. Meaning you'll rub my ego in a good way :mrgreen:

And that somehow makes you a better person?

I myself see your age as just a "lack of experience".

 

[Hatuey]

And that somehow makes you a better person?

I myself see your age as just a "lack of experience".

Not about making me a better person. I just find the notion CA apparently has that because I'm only 20 years old I'm somehow less able to debate pretty stupid and without merit.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Not about making me a better person. I just find the notion CA apparently has that because I'm only 20 years old I'm somehow less able to debate pretty stupid and without merit.

Did someone mention your age?

 

[Hatuey]

I hate to bust your bubble but hmm It was the Iraqi government that executed Saddam not the US. But anyways soooo you’re saying the US spent over 11 plus years waiting for the opportune moment to invade Iraq so that Saddam could be executed for his crimes against the Iraqi people? If you believe that I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

Hey my beliefs are confirmed to be true by how we waited 11 years for the opportune moment to invade Iraq and then we let him be executed for his crimes against the iraqi people but hey. If you still want to debate that. Please go ahead it's funny to see you deep a bigger and bigger hole.

WOW that makes you an idiot just like bush…:roll:
I feel sorry for since you have selective hearing and you believe this war was to save the Iraqi people.

Are you calling CA an idiot too? :|

Where did I leave that staple gun at?
Hatuey, needs a post-a-note stapled to his forehead.

Resulting to insults cherokee? :roll: . Not very mature.

DO NOT question my loyalty to my Military!
I place each and every one of them above every Iraqi on the face of this earth.
I would rather read about 10,000 Iraqi’s dying then read one report of a US troop being wounded and I’m talking about shaving (a razor cut)

I dont know what I find more disturbing. You debating that this war had nothing to do with the Iraqi people. Or the statement above.

And just so you know…I place them above you as well.

Should I start crying now? Or Do you want to get more insults in to see if one of them hits a patriotic never in me?

 

[Hatuey]

Did someone mention your age?

I had been suspecting his youth for quite some time. Many things became very clear once he confirmed it.

:2wave: - I'm still wondering though....did you suspect my youth before or after I posted it like 2 days after joining the forum? lol

 

[CurrentAffairs]

:2wave: - I'm still wondering though....did you suspect my youth before or after I posted it like 2 days after joining the forum? lol

Not sure when I first had the pleasure of meeting you in this forum. I detected your youth once the midterm election debates became plentiful. But did someone mention your age?

 

[Morrow]

Another liberal coward to ashamed to admit to what they are are.


Independent my ***.........

Which is?

For all you know I was in your same unit. And what if I were? You would make some excuse to justify your anger against me, anyone else, everyone else. You could do that till you were the only one left in the world. Just so long as you had whatever it is you think you need to be or think that others don't.

You want to be brave, deal with whatever it is that is causing this. Don't put it on me.

 

[cherokee]

Hey my beliefs are confirmed to be true by how we waited 11 years for the opportune moment to invade Iraq and then we let him be executed for his crimes against the iraqi people but hey. If you still want to debate that. Please go ahead it's funny to see you deep a bigger and bigger hole.

Really why? Why do you believe that?

Are you calling CA an idiot too? :|

Focus on you and me pal..

Resulting to insults cherokee? :roll: . Not very mature.

Was that an insult? Tell me how it was an insult?

I dont know what I find more disturbing. You debating that this war had nothing to do with the Iraqi people. Or the statement above.

Thank you. I do try...

Now tell me why wait 11+ years after the UN passes a resolution (1991) And yet the crimes he was charged with in the Iraqi court took place in 1982? what do your many years of wisdom tell you?

Why do you want me to like the Iraqi people so bad?

Since you enjoyed it so much I'll say it again.

DO NOT question my loyalty to my Military!
I place each and every one of them above every Iraqi on the face of this earth.
I would rather read about 10,000 Iraqi’s dying then read one report of a US troop being wounded and I’m talking about shaving (a razor cut)
And just so you know…I place them above you as well.

 

[Hatuey]

Really why? Why do you believe that?

Why do I believe that what happened? Because thats what did happen.... Where have you been in past 4 years? - We invaded Iraq. "Liberated" the good Iraqi people from Saddams grip and then let their "fair" laws prosecute him. Was I watching a different channel?

Focus on you and me pal..

I'm trying but C.A. is too sexy.

Was that an insult? Tell me how it was an insult?

Why would I need a staple to my head? :|

Thank you. I do try...

It shows.

Now tell me why wait 11+ years after the UN passes a resolution (1991) And yet the crimes he was charged with in the Iraqi court took place in 1982? what do your many years of wisdom tell you?

Hey justice is not always quick. Specially on the international scene. Pinochet commited his crimes in the late 70s to mid 80s. He was only indicted in embezelment in 2005. There are still over 300 crimes of human rights abuses pendint against him.

Why do you want me to like the Iraqi people so bad?

I dont. I just find it funny how you can support the troops on their mission and think that this war has nothing to do with the people of Iraq.

Since you enjoyed it so much I'll say it again.

Oh trust me I did.

DO NOT question my loyalty to my Military!

I never did.

I place each and every one of them above every Iraqi on the face of this earth.

Are there any rights stopping you from doing so? Why are you repeating yourself brother?

I would rather read about 10,000 Iraqi’s dying then read one report of a US troop being wounded and I’m talking about shaving (a razor cut)

Once again disturbing. Saying it twice wont make you sound anymore patriotic or anyless crazy.

And just so you know…I place them above you as well.

Should I start crying now? I'm not special to you. Boo-hoo-hoo.

 

[Cold Dirt]

Which is?

For all you know I was in your same unit. And what if I were? You would make some excuse to justify your anger against me, anyone else, everyone else. You could do that till you were the only one left in the world. Just so long as you had whatever it is you think you need to be or think that others don't.

You want to be brave, deal with whatever it is that is causing this. Don't put it on me.

For one I am retired...two if you were in my unit I would probably out rank you because I retired an E-8. So either way you lose.

 

[PrimBabUB]

Word of advice CA if you're going to try to hit a nerve don't go for my age. It'll only make me laugh at the fact that I'm better off financialy then most 30-40 year olds in America. Meaning you'll rub my ego in a good way :mrgreen:

Funny how you never meet a 20 year old that is financially better off than a 30-40 year old that isn't riding on mama and/or daddy's coattails.