https://thehill.com/policy/internat...cant-response-to-any-violence-or-intimidation
National security adviser John Bolton on Sunday warned of a “significant response” to any violence or intimidation against U.S. diplomats in Venezuela or the country's current government.
“Any violence and intimidation against U.S. diplomatic personnel, Venezuela’s democratic leader, Juan Guiado [sic], or the National Assembly itself would represent a grave assault on the rule of law and will be met with a significant response,” Bolton tweeted.
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Bolton is a well known war hawk & proponent of regime change. Another step toward a real confrontation with Venezuela?
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton
Why do I see this as the US threatening Venezuela, not the other way around.
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It is the politics of intimidation. The U.S. is the aggressor here & Bolton is the guy to play the heavy. One step closer...
Those are polite words to say The US is threatening Venezuela, but designed to obfuscate the truth.
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This very well may be a setup for military intervention in Venezuela. What's scary is the Russian presence there. Making it more complicated is Trump's cozy relationship with Putin.
I think a cozy relationship with Putin is a good thing. I don't see him as some all encompassing evil, but a hard working leader doing a great job managing his Nation. As to Venezuela, all our threats are not about helping Venezuela or Venezuelans, and our track record shows that in bold print. That means one must deduce the real reasons behind the threats.. Those will not be in the MSM. Does that seem strange?
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https://thehill.com/policy/internat...cant-response-to-any-violence-or-intimidation
National security adviser John Bolton on Sunday warned of a “significant response” to any violence or intimidation against U.S. diplomats in Venezuela or the country's current government.
“Any violence and intimidation against U.S. diplomatic personnel, Venezuela’s democratic leader, Juan Guiado [sic], or the National Assembly itself would represent a grave assault on the rule of law and will be met with a significant response,” Bolton tweeted.
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Bolton is a well known war hawk & proponent of regime change. Another step toward a real confrontation with Venezuela?
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton
I think a cozy relationship with Putin is a good thing. I don't see him as some all encompassing evil, but a hard working leader doing a great job managing his Nation. As to Venezuela, all our threats are not about helping Venezuela or Venezuelans, and our track record shows that in bold print. That means one must deduce the real reasons behind the threats.. Those will not be in the MSM. Does that seem strange?
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I think a cozy relationship with Putin is a good thing. I don't see him as some all encompassing evil, but a hard working leader doing a great job managing his Nation. As to Venezuela, all our threats are not about helping Venezuela or Venezuelans, and our track record shows that in bold print. That means one must deduce the real reasons behind the threats.. Those will not be in the MSM. Does that seem strange?
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You have a tendency to like murderous strong men and dictators.
Trump likes the same types. He feels right at home around strongman bullies.
Dave Fagan:
Ah, no. That would enrage the USA which would invoke the Munroe Doctrine, invade and would likely lead to war.
Venezuela must be reformed from within by Venezuelans either through peaceful political reform by civil society or by popular revolt. The problem is even with the appalling economic conditions resulting from Maduro's mismanagement of the economy and US economic sabotage of Venezuela, too many Venezuelans still support Chavismo even if they hate Maduro, so the US, Columbia, the Lima Group and the disloyal Venezuelan opposition know that force is their only option to put a right-wing, pro-US government into Venezuela. The Brazil or Honduras options are not available to Mr. Bolton, Mr. Pompeo, Mr. Ar rams and their ilk in the case of Venezuela.
Cheers.
Evilroddy.
Dave Fagan:
Ah, no. That would enrage the USA which would invoke the Munroe Doctrine, invade and would likely lead to war.
Venezuela must be reformed from within by Venezuelans either through peaceful political reform by civil society or by popular revolt. The problem is even with the appalling economic conditions resulting from Maduro's mismanagement of the economy and US economic sabotage of Venezuela, too many Venezuelans still support Chavismo even if they hate Maduro, so the US, Columbia, the Lima Group and the disloyal Venezuelan opposition know that force is their only option to put a right-wing, pro-US government into Venezuela. The Brazil or Honduras options are not available to Mr. Bolton, Mr. Pompeo, Mr. Ar rams and their ilk in the case of Venezuela.
Cheers.
Evilroddy.
Nothing will happen to our diplomats in Venezuela. Maduro is stupid...not suicidal.
Nothing will happen to our diplomats in Venezuela. Maduro is stupid...not suicidal.
What do you mean by the Brazil option? I'm unaware of any interference of the United States in the free Brazilian elections (which are actually a model of efficiency, all done through secure electronic machines that can't be hacked, and the results are accurately reported within hours). No international observer of any kind questions the results of the latest Brazilian elections. Jair Bolsonaro was elected freely, democratically, by the majority of Brazilian voters. Sure, there were some misguided statements about the fairness of not allowing Lula to run (basically by the left-wing dominated UN's Human Rights Commission, but that misguided conclusion was strongly countered by the UN's other organs). But the fact that Lula was unable to run, has to do with a bill Lula himself signed into law, the Ficha Limpa (Clean Background) law, which says that no candidate will be able to run when convicted of a felony by an appellate court, which is exactly his situation (was convicted - which was upheld on appeal - of corruption and accepting bribes from large construction companies - his party sponsored the most corrupt theft in the history of Brazil, to the tune of 80 billion dollars yearly for 13 years in a row).
Contrary to naive foreigners who bought into the absurd Workers Party version that Lula is a political prisoner, Lula is a former politician who is a prisoner due to felonies he committed, in a process that was monitored all the way by the Brazilian Supreme Court (which has a majority of justices nominated by Lula's party or other leftists), and was endorsed by the Supreme Court as legal and constitutional. Notably, the decisive vote that maintained his conviction was cast by Justice Rosa Weber, appointed by Lula's protegée Dilma Rousseff of the same party - that should tell you something about who was right about the constitutionality of stopping Lula from running; the Court's version, or Lula's party's version.
Jair Bolsonaro, a rightist, was elected precisely because the Brazilians are sick and tired of the corrupt Left that sucked dry the coffers of the nation (including pension funds, state banks, and the state oil company) for partisan and personal gain.
Brazilians had only two choices in the run-off: either they voted for Bolsonaro, or Brazil would become another Venezuela if the thieving Workers Party got back into power. It was a no-brainer, and the people went with Bolsonaro.
I wish there was a better choice. But between Bolsonaro and Haddad, the former was the lesser evil.
I don't know if I'm reading too much into your statement... but if you attempted to introduce the notion that the US somehow maneuvered the Brazilian elections to get a rightist there, it is not true at all.
As far as the other nations you've mentioned, I can't say as much. But Brazil? Nah. The Right's rise to power there had other reasons.
GN2n:
I was referring to the very controversial removal of President Dilma Rousseff and her replacement by the truely corrupt Michel Temer, the man who actually was responsible for the budget irregularities which the even more corrupt Eduardo Cuhna and his cronies used as an excuse to remove a democratically elected president. Temer then set the stage for the election of the maniacal Jair Bolsonaro. Mark my words, it will be 1964 again before his next term and the extrajudicial killings have already started.
Cheers.
Evilroddy.
Dave Fagan:
Ah, no. That would enrage the USA which would invoke the Munroe Doctrine, invade and would likely lead to war.
Venezuela must be reformed from within by Venezuelans either through peaceful political reform by civil society or by popular revolt. The problem is even with the appalling economic conditions resulting from Maduro's mismanagement of the economy and US economic sabotage of Venezuela, too many Venezuelans still support Chavismo even if they hate Maduro, so the US, Columbia, the Lima Group and the disloyal Venezuelan opposition know that force is their only option to put a right-wing, pro-US government into Venezuela. The Brazil or Honduras options are not available to Mr. Bolton, Mr. Pompeo, Mr. Ar rams and their ilk in the case of Venezuela.
Cheers.
Evilroddy.
You have a tendency to like murderous strong men and dictators.
You like threatening, evil, invading, killing oppressors.
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