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Bolton says "losers, suckers" comments didn't happen

Bolton is a POS....has been for a long time. Nobody cares what he has to say. His book after starting with a bang has quickly fallen to 13th in the Amazon sales ranking is not even any longer in the NY Times top 15. It has the legs of a broken down mule, just like John himself. John is probably trying to pump the life back into the thing by pretending he is relevant. He could have been. HE"s NOT.
 
Did the 'anonymous sources' say Bolton was there for what they heard, and in a position where he must have heard it?

Before answering, bear in mind that we were told to ignore what Bolton says because he was a disgruntled fired person just trying to make Trump look bad for a buck.

Typical BS. You want it both ways. Bolton was just your hero for trashing Trump but now he should be ignored because he isn't shoring up your agenda on this matter.
 
"He got support from an unlikely source on Friday when John R. Bolton, his former national security adviser who has broken with him and called him unfit for office, said he was on the trip in question and never heard Mr. Trump make those remarks. “I didn’t hear that,” Mr. Bolton said in an interview. “I’m not saying he didn’t say them later in the day or another time but I was there for that discussion.” …

Mr. Bolton said he was in the room at the ambassador’s residence when Mr. Trump arrived and Mr. Kelly told him that the helicopter trip had to be canceled. A two-hour motorcade would have put him too far away from Air Force One and the most capable communications array a president needs in case of an emergency, per usual protocol, Mr. Bolton said. “It was a straight weather call,” Mr. Bolton said.

While Mr. Bolton said he did not hear the president disparage troops, he added that Mr. Trump did not protest the decision, as he now says he did. “He didn’t say, ‘This is terrible, I have to go out to the veterans,’” Mr. Bolton said. “He accepted it and that was pretty much the end of it.” Having said that, Mr. Bolton added, the reported comments were not out of character. “I haven’t heard anybody yet react to say, ‘That’s not the Donald Trump I know,’” he said."

So he was not there the entire time so really cannot absolve the Prez.

There are other witnesses to his statements and have been verified by several other news agencies.

And then there is Kelly, who could become trumps worst nightmare, all he has to do is confirm that trump said what he did at his sons grave.

Your boy is spoiled brat and what is being reported is right on par with his past BS, this story is going to stick to trump and will lose him Millions of voters, count on that.
 
Typical BS. You want it both ways. Bolton was just your hero for trashing Trump but now he should be ignored because he isn't shoring up your agenda on this matter.

Wait a second, didn't you guys say he was a liar and disgruntled former employee and now he is above reproach, careful taking that path.

Sorry but Bolton's comments don't do a thing to save trump.
 
Democrats and the DNC are DESPERATE right now as Biden's polling is either gone flat or down---especially in the States which will decide this election. So of course they are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. No appreciable bump from the Democratic convention, two months to go, this latest hail Mary isn't even worthy of an "October surprise" but probably a card they were holding for that reason--- although in desperation had to be played right now.

Biden will lose in November and the Democratic party will be forever damaged.... probably splitting into two or three parties: traditional democrats (moderate), Democratic Socialists (progressive), and then the rest the malcontented America hating anarchist BLM/Antifa/Occupy and "squad" losers.
 
Why do you keep lying? :lamo

My thread title doesn't say what you put into quotes. Do you know what quotation marks are for? Are you that desperate to post something? :lamo

Your thread title is a lie. If it isn't, quote Bolton saying what you say he said.
 
"He got support from an unlikely source on Friday when John R. Bolton, his former national security adviser who has broken with him and called him unfit for office, said he was on the trip in question and never heard Mr. Trump make those remarks. “I didn’t hear that,” Mr. Bolton said in an interview. “I’m not saying he didn’t say them later in the day or another time but I was there for that discussion.” …

Mr. Bolton said he was in the room at the ambassador’s residence when Mr. Trump arrived and Mr. Kelly told him that the helicopter trip had to be canceled. A two-hour motorcade would have put him too far away from Air Force One and the most capable communications array a president needs in case of an emergency, per usual protocol, Mr. Bolton said. “It was a straight weather call,” Mr. Bolton said.

While Mr. Bolton said he did not hear the president disparage troops, he added that Mr. Trump did not protest the decision, as he now says he did. “He didn’t say, ‘This is terrible, I have to go out to the veterans,’” Mr. Bolton said. “He accepted it and that was pretty much the end of it.” Having said that, Mr. Bolton added, the reported comments were not out of character. “I haven’t heard anybody yet react to say, ‘That’s not the Donald Trump I know,’” he said."

So he was not there the entire time so really cannot absolve the Prez.

There are other witnesses to his statements and have been verified by several other news agencies.

And then there is Kelly, who could become trumps worst nightmare, all he has to do is confirm that trump said what he did at his sons grave.

Your boy is spoiled brat and what is being reported is right on par with his past BS, this story is going to stick to trump and will lose him Millions of voters, count on that.

Captain Sully blasts ‘coward’ Trump saying he’s ‘unfit’ for office afer he ‘called veterans losers

Captain ‘Sully’ Sullenberger III launched a scathing Twitter rant denigrating President Donald Trump as a ‘coward’ and ‘unfit for workplace’ following a report that he known as ineffective warfare heroes and veterans ‘losers and suckers’.

Sullenberger rose to fame for his ‘Miracle on the Hudson’ emergency landing of US Airways Flight 1549 on January 15, 2009.

The previous Air Pressure pilot and captain, who retired as a industrial pilot in 2010, is now using his voice to denounce Trump’s time in workplace.

‘I’m a veteran. I volunteered for military service all through wartime. So did my father. His period saved the world from fascism,’ Sully tweeted Friday.

‘For the first time in American historic previous, a president has repeatedly confirmed utter and vulgar contempt and disrespect for people who have served and died serving our nation,’ he added.

Captain ‘Sully’ Sullenberger III launched a scathing Twitter rant denigrating President Donald Trump and urging the military and People to ‘vote him out’

Captain Sully blasts 'coward' Trump saying he's 'unfit' for office afer he 'called veterans losers' >> - News07trends
 
Democrats and the DNC are DESPERATE right now as Biden's polling is either gone flat or down---especially in the States which will decide this election. So of course they are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. No appreciable bump from the Democratic convention, two months to go, this latest hail Mary isn't even worthy of an "October surprise" but probably a card they were holding for that reason--- although in desperation had to be played right now.

Biden will lose in November and the Democratic party will be forever damaged.... probably splitting into two or three parties: traditional democrats (moderate), Democratic Socialists (progressive), and then the rest the malcontented America hating anarchist BLM/Antifa/Occupy and "squad" losers.

I don't think there are any numbers that support your contention. But you are welcome to it.
 

Is this also another lie? If President Trump got this wrong. Then what else has he forgotten or got wrong when it comes to making statements. Maybe he should get checked out for dementia.

"Trump told reporters Thursday that he “called home” to Melania Trump at the time and told her how upset he was about not being able to visit the cemetery. At the time, the White House said he had to cancel the visit because of bad weather."

"Trump said: “I called home, I spoke to my wife and I said, ‘I hate this. I came here to go to that ceremony.’ And to the one that was the following day, which I did go to. I said I feel terribly. And that was the end of it.”

But Melania Trump was not at “home” — she was on the trip with the president and was also scheduled to visit the cemetery."
Fact check: Trump denies disrespect of soldiers
 
Wait a second, didn't you guys say he was a liar and disgruntled former employee and now he is above reproach, careful taking that path.

Sorry but Bolton's comments don't do a thing to save trump.

Yep he was a huge liar, but now he is telling the truth. Funny I don't see any Liberals here calling Bolton a liar now.
 
Yep he was a huge liar, but now he is telling the truth. Funny I don't see any Liberals here calling Bolton a liar now.

Hes not lying. He just wasn't there
 
I for one hope it is a lie. I would be sickened having a President that said that about people who have died for our country. Everyone should be.
 
Is this also another lie? If President Trump got this wrong. Then what else has he forgotten or got wrong when it comes to making statements. Maybe he should get checked out for dementia.

"Trump told reporters Thursday that he “called home” to Melania Trump at the time and told her how upset he was about not being able to visit the cemetery. At the time, the White House said he had to cancel the visit because of bad weather."

"Trump said: “I called home, I spoke to my wife and I said, ‘I hate this. I came here to go to that ceremony.’ And to the one that was the following day, which I did go to. I said I feel terribly. And that was the end of it.”

But Melania Trump was not at “home” — she was on the trip with the president and was also scheduled to visit the cemetery."
Fact check: Trump denies disrespect of soldiers

Y'all are really desperate. Huh?
 
I for one hope it is a lie. I would be sickened having a President that said that about people who have died for our country. Everyone should be.

I sincerely hope it is not true.


If biden said this I would never ever ever vote for him
 
Democrats and the DNC are DESPERATE right now as Biden's polling is either gone flat or down---especially in the States which will decide this election. So of course they are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. No appreciable bump from the Democratic convention, two months to go, this latest hail Mary isn't even worthy of an "October surprise" but probably a card they were holding for that reason--- although in desperation had to be played right now.

Biden will lose in November and the Democratic party will be forever damaged.... probably splitting into two or three parties: traditional democrats (moderate), Democratic Socialists (progressive), and then the rest the malcontented America hating anarchist BLM/Antifa/Occupy and "squad" losers.

Really?
RealClearPolitics - 2020 - Latest Polls!
 
Sure y'all did. :lamo. You folks go whichever way the wind is blowing.

I was never was a Bolton fan.

But y'all swing like a pendulum do...if the left hates Bolton, you like him...if Trump doesn't like him, you hate him. You folks have lost all sense and don't know what the hell you stand for anymore.
 
Y'all are really desperate. Huh?

Nope. You are consistent in not answering questions when Trump lies. So you must be desperate because you know there is no defense for President Trump and some of his statements.
Reason I posted the article in this thread is it shows a Trump lied about the event.


All Bolton can testify too is he did not hear President Trump say those things when he was present and within hearing range.
 
Given that:

  • Trump has already shown respect for the troops and the military through actions that he himself has taken . . .
  • 'The Atlantic' is owned by a Biden mega-donor . . .
  • this is yet another 'anonymous source' supporting what the left wants to hear . . .
  • that the article provides cannon fodder for attacking Trump . . .
  • this must be the 12,485th time the left has used similar anonymous sources as Trump attack vectors . . .
  • the left has cried wolf so many times and have been proven false in the end . . .

This isn't worth the hot air and fauxrage energy spent on it, nor is it worth any time or energy in response to the hot air and fauxrage energy spent on it. The lefties in this thread can go and enjoy their circle jerk.

Moving on.
 
Given that:

  • Trump has already shown respect for the troops and the military through actions that he himself has taken . . .
  • 'The Atlantic' is owned by a Biden mega-donor . . .
  • this is yet another 'anonymous source' supporting what the left wants to hear . . .
  • that the article provides cannon fodder for attacking Trump . . .
  • this must be the 12,485th time the left has used similar anonymous sources as Trump attack vectors . . .
  • the left has cried wolf so many times and have been proven false in the end . . .

This isn't worth the hot air and fauxrage energy spent on it, nor is it worth any time or energy in response to the hot air and fauxrage energy spent on it.

Moving on.

I think pretty much none of this is true. Lol
 

No, Bolton said:

Bolton told the Times, “I didn’t hear that. I’m not saying he didn’t say them later in the day or another time, but I was there for that discussion.” In an interview with Bloomberg News, Bolton said, “I have not heard anybody say, ‘Oh, that doesn’t sound like the Donald Trump I know.’ ” Bolton also said, “I don’t think he really holds anybody in high regard except his family.”

It’s Time for the Former General John Kelly to Speak Out About Trump’s Views on the Military | The New Yorker

The only "lie busted" is yours.
 
John Bolton not hearing something is not proof of anything.
 

Let me ask you this, because you’re one of these “RAH RAH! THE TROOPZ!” people, who also allegedly served.

Would you care if he did say it?

Like if he really thought that way about the military and its members, would you even care?

Would you not vote for him?

P.S. I know I’m not going to get a serious answer.
 
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