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Boehner says 'unemployed' Trump 'has nothing else to do' but 'cause trouble' (4/12/21)

He's the stereotype.


And all along he told people that they "don't understand civics," they don't take personal "responsibility," and tried to promote himself as not a Trump worshipper, but just a sincere American who appreciates "results."

Do you honestly believe that saying the same thing over and over again changes the reality of what happened during the first three years of Trump? What is about people like you that ignores reality and continues to spread liberal propaganda? Is the Bureau of Economic Analysis lying when they post Trump's 900 billion dollar per year GDP growth versus the declining dollar growth inherited by Trump, 500 billion dollars per year growth?

I find it quite disturbing how people like you continue to promote the fraudulent liberal ideology that creates dependence not independence and creates a massive big brother to provide for what you should be providing for yourself

I also find it disturbing how poorly informed you are as to the components of GDP, there are four, figure out what they are and then tell us what part gov't spending played in the 2020 GDP numbers

Then there is the question as to what you expected with the economic shutdown that was bipartisan, did you support the shutdown to stop the spread of the virus or to generate the poor economic results to blame on Trump? Why is it that the Blue states have a much higher unemployment today than Red States?

I am going to post this again, get some help reading it. Obama 500 billion per year in GDP dollar growth, Trump 900 billion. is that 500 billion per year and declining what you call a booming economy?

Table 1.1.5. Gross Domestic Product
[Billions of dollars]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: April 29, 2020 - Next Release Date May 28, 2020
Line200820092010201120122013201420152016201720182019
Line
1Gross domestic product14712.814448.914992.115542.61619716784.917527.318224.81871519519.420580.221427.7
2Personal consumption expenditures9976.39842.210185.810641.111006.811317.211822.812284.312748.513312.113998.714562.7
7Gross private domestic investment2477.61929.72165.52332.62621.828263044.23223.13178.73370.73628.33743.9
15Net exports of goods and services-723.1-396.5-513.9-579.5-568.6-490.8-507.7-519.8-518.8-575.3-638.2-631.9
22Government consumption expenditures and gross investment29823073.53154.63148.431373132.431683237.33306.734123591.53753
 
Claims that are and have always been easily verified and proven...versus your track record of lies and data manipulation in order to better serve a national traitor.

Unlike you, I have integrity.

No, what those claims of yours show is that you have no understanding of GDP components or understanding of GDP data. The facts just don't support your claim as you focus on percentage change and not dollar growth. Do you even understand what numbers generate percentage change? Do you know what a denominator and numerator are?
 
thank you for the partisan out of or lacking in context as you have no idea what taxes you pay or what their purpose is.

Clearly, the taxes I pay are for you and federal aid to basket case states, such as California and Texas. It's funny how you people are so determined not to see each other as existing on the same coin.

Further you have no understanding of what a federal mandate is and what funding goes to the hospitals and what created that funding. You going to tell us what you wanted from the economic shutdown, stopping the pandemic or generating negative economic results to blame on Trump?

We know, nobody understands anything except the one who grovels for a national traitor and begs others to help his state out. :rolleyes:

Trump bears great responsibility for the exacerbated deaths and the exacerbated economic mess because he chose to ignore the global pandemic, while harassing health officials, and convincing Trump Nation that masks are dumb. All just a Democrat hoax, right? Oh, except for on March 13, when he abruptly declared an national emergency and asked Democrats to help him write welfare checks, while his GOP handed him another handy-dandy bail-out package for mismanaged banks and corporations. You know, well after he entrenched American farmers within the welfare system due to his failed trade war crusade. Seems that you support a great deal of socialism for a guy who whines about others not taking responsibility.


It is stunning how people like you ignore personal responsibility.

Have you begged for my federal aid yet this week? What's stunning is how you excuse Trump from personal responsibility about absolutely ****ing everything, while trying to tell others that they ignore personal responsibility. Does Trump even pay you for this obnoxious and pathetic worship?
 
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Clearly, the taxes I pay are for you and federal aid to basket case states, such as California and Texas. It's funny how you people are so determined not to see each other as existing on the same coin.

Got it, there are no blue supporters in red states and in your world a federal mandate created by Congress is a handout and tied to the amount of dollars paid in income taxes? What a joke liberalism is, totally ignorant of reality



Trump bears great responsibility for the exacerbated deaths and the exacerbated economic mess because he chose to ignore the global pandemic, while harassing health officials, and convincing Trump Nation that masks are dumb. All just a Democrat hoax, right? Oh, except for on March 13, when he abruptly declared an national emergency and asked Democrats to help him write welfare checks, while his GOP handed him another handy-dandy bail-out package for mismanaged banks and corporations. You know, well after he entrenched American farmers within the welfare system due to his failed trade war crusade. Seems that you support a great deal of socialism for a guy who whines about others not taking responsibility.

Of course he does as obviously he sent infected seniors back to their nursing homes to infect others in NY. That global pandemic was declared when and by whom? Stunning how you continue to focus on January/February 2020 ignoring the comments of WHO and CDC and even now the Democratic claims that China understated the Covid19

Top U.S. diplomat criticizes China, says 'need to get to the bottom' of COVID-19 origin | Reuters


Have you begged for my federal aid yet this week? What's stunning is how you excuse Trump from personal responsibility about absolutely ****ing everything, while trying to tell others that they ignore personal responsibility. Does Trump even pay you for this obnoxious and pathetic worship?

When will you ever understand the difference between a federal mandate and its relationship to revenue sent to DC?
 
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No, what those claims of yours show is that you have no understanding of GDP components or understanding of GDP data. The facts just don't support your claim as you focus on percentage change and not dollar growth. Do you even understand what numbers generate percentage change? Do you know what a denominator and numerator are?

Again with the "no understanding" from the guy who has clearly proven to be so desperate for a reason to blindly support Trump that he was caught lying about the numbers and routinely cuts/pastes charts that he doesn't fully understand because they frequently counter his bad arguments.

Pal, there's a reason you chose to dismiss GDP altogether and resort to promoting cryptocurrency as your new measurement for Trump's majesty. Funny how you quickly abandoned and chose to excuse Trump for the 2019 GDP "results." You know, before he exacerbated last year's 2020 economic mess and then insisted that you stay on your knees for him anyway...cuz "communism" and "fraud" and hoax."
 
Do you honestly...

Yes, that is what integrity means. Speaking of....

Table 1.1.5. Gross Domestic Product
[Billions of dollars]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: April 29, 2020 - Next Release Date May 28, 2020
Line200820092010201120122013201420152016201720182019
Line
1Gross domestic product14712.814448.914992.115542.61619716784.917527.318224.81871519519.420580.221427.7
2Personal consumption expenditures9976.39842.210185.810641.111006.811317.211822.812284.312748.513312.113998.714562.7


Forget that he routinely fails to produce a link in order to verify that he hasn't altered the data again. And let's forget that he highlights select numbers over the period in order to belittle the other numbers. Let's look at all those numbers (in red) and what I and the rest of the world calls an inherited ****ing trend.

- Note how in 2008 the number is 14.
- Then in 2011 it is 15.
- Then in 2012 it is 16.
- Then 2014 it is 17.
- Then 2015 it is 18.
- Then in 2017 it is 19. <----Praise Trump?!
- Then in 2018 it is 20.
- Then in 2019 it is 21.

Funny how the numbers simply climb from one to the next since the Great Recession, creating a trend, huh? For the sake of those who want to see the actual GDP percentage, without 'Conservative's' chart misrepresentation:

Facts from the balance:

2008: -0.1%
2009: -2.5%
2010: 2.6%
2011: 1.6%
2012: 2.2%
2013: 1.8%
2014: 2.5%
2015: 2.9%
2016: 1.6%
2017: 2.4%
2018: 2.9%
2019: 2.3% <----Lower than 2018, 2017, 2015, 2014, and 2010.

Facts from the World Bank:

2008: -0.1%
2009: -2.5%
2010: 2.6%
2011: 1.6%
2012: 2.2%
2013: 1.8%
2014: 2.5%
2015: 2.9%
2016: 1.6%
2017: 2.3%
2018: 2.9%
2019: 2.1% <---- Lower than 2018, 2017, 2015, 2014, and 2010.

Facts from the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, showing the U.S. Real GDP Growth Rate:

2008: -2.75%
2009: -0.18%
2010: 2.57%
2011: 1.61%
2012: 1.47%
2013: 2.61%
2014: 2.88%
2015: 1.90%
2016: 2.03%
2017: 2.80%
2018: 2.52%
2019: 2.29% <---- Lower than 2018, 2017, 2014, 2013, and 2010.


Numbers do not lie. Only partisan hacks and Trump Nation lies.
 
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Do you honestly believe that saying the same thing over and over again changes the reality of what happened during the first three years of Trump? What is about people like you that ignores reality and continues to spread liberal propaganda? Is the Bureau of Economic Analysis lying when they post Trump's 900 billion dollar per year GDP growth versus the declining dollar growth inherited by Trump, 500 billion dollars per year growth?

I find it quite disturbing how people like you continue to promote the fraudulent liberal ideology that creates dependence not independence and creates a massive big brother to provide for what you should be providing for yourself

I also find it disturbing how poorly informed you are as to the components of GDP, there are four, figure out what they are and then tell us what part gov't spending played in the 2020 GDP numbers

Then there is the question as to what you expected with the economic shutdown that was bipartisan, did you support the shutdown to stop the spread of the virus or to generate the poor economic results to blame on Trump? Why is it that the Blue states have a much higher unemployment today than Red States?

I am going to post this again, get some help reading it. Obama 500 billion per year in GDP dollar growth, Trump 900 billion. is that 500 billion per year and declining what you call a booming economy?

Table 1.1.5. Gross Domestic Product
[Billions of dollars]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: April 29, 2020 - Next Release Date May 28, 2020
Line200820092010201120122013201420152016201720182019
Line
1Gross domestic product14712.814448.914992.115542.61619716784.917527.318224.81871519519.420580.221427.7
2Personal consumption expenditures9976.39842.210185.810641.111006.811317.211822.812284.312748.513312.113998.714562.7
7Gross private domestic investment2477.61929.72165.52332.62621.828263044.23223.13178.73370.73628.33743.9
15Net exports of goods and services-723.1-396.5-513.9-579.5-568.6-490.8-507.7-519.8-518.8-575.3-638.2-631.9
22Government consumption expenditures and gross investment29823073.53154.63148.431373132.431683237.33306.734123591.53753
All your chart proves is that GDP rises, except in times of recession.

You also fail to make the most rudimentary adjustments for inflation. A dollar in 2008 isn't the same as a dollar in 2019. You also use raw dollars instead of what's standard, percentage changes. By your measure, Trump was a million times better president than George Washington, because the GDP, in dollar terms, was very small in 1790.

But, we have endlessly had this discussion and keep posting the same nonsense -- unable to learn from replies.
 
Forget that he routinely fails to produce a link in order to verify that he hasn't altered the data again. And let's forget that he highlights select numbers over the period in order to belittle the other numbers. Let's look at all those numbers (in red) and what I and the rest of the world calls an inherited ****ing trend.

Numbers do not lie. Only partisan hacks and Trump Nation lies.
If someone can only views things thru one lens and that lens is manipulated to make themselves feel right despite the truth being the opposite there's almost zero chance they will ever understand any data or truths we post. If you're wearing blinders you can't see. Imagine believing that the election was "stolen" and that Trump didn't tell ANY lies for 4 years? What planet does that thinking reside on? It's not Earth. What sort of person yells at other posters for calling Trump names, calling it "juvenile" and in the same post and future posts calls Biden names? Detached from reality and filled with rage. Must be a wonderful life.
 
Yes, that is what integrity means. Speaking of....




Forget that he routinely fails to produce a link in order to verify that he hasn't altered the data again. And let's forget that he highlights select numbers over the period in order to belittle the other numbers. Let's look at all those numbers (in red) and what I and the rest of the world calls an inherited ****ing trend.

- Note how in 2008 the number is 14.
- Then in 2011 it is 15.
- Then in 2012 it is 16.
- Then 2014 it is 17.
- Then 2015 it is 18.
- Then in 2017 it is 19. <----Praise Trump?!
- Then in 2018 it is 20.
- Then in 2019 it is 21.

Funny how the numbers simply climb from one to the next since the Great Recession, creating a trend, huh? For the sake of those who want to see the actual GDP percentage, without 'Conservative's' chart misrepresentation:

Facts from the balance:

2008: -0.1%
2009: -2.5%
2010: 2.6%
2011: 1.6%
2012: 2.2%
2013: 1.8%
2014: 2.5%
2015: 2.9%
2016: 1.6%
2017: 2.4%
2018: 2.9%
2019: 2.3% <----Lower than 2018, 2017, 2015, 2014, and 2010.

Facts from the World Bank:

2008: -0.1%
2009: -2.5%
2010: 2.6%
2011: 1.6%
2012: 2.2%
2013: 1.8%
2014: 2.5%
2015: 2.9%
2016: 1.6%
2017: 2.3%
2018: 2.9%
2019: 2.1% <---- Lower than 2018, 2017, 2015, 2014, and 2010.

Facts from the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, showing the U.S. Real GDP Growth Rate:

2008: -2.75%
2009: -0.18%
2010: 2.57%
2011: 1.61%
2012: 1.47%
2013: 2.61%
2014: 2.88%
2015: 1.90%
2016: 2.03%
2017: 2.80%
2018: 2.52%
2019: 2.29% <---- Lower than 2018, 2017, 2014, 2013, and 2010.


Numbers do not lie. Only partisan hacks and Trump Nation lies.
But Trump's numbers can't be that bad. He promised this:


Let us also remember that our dear poster Conservative belittled Obama during his years by saying, 'Obama's GDP was mediocre -- not even getting to 3% GDP in any year.' Well, neither did Trump but Con conveniently forgets that.
 
Got it, there are no blue supporters in red states and in your world a federal mandate created by Congress is a handout and tied to the amount of dollars paid in income taxes? What a joke liberalism is, totally ignorant of reality

Proof of your partisanship:

I'm talking about Texas, not conservatives. Yet, you immediately default to defending conservatives by declaring that liberals also live in Texas. What the **** does that have to do with Texas always requiring federal handouts and federal aid?

This is exactly why you always lose. You see nothing beyond your partisan crap and would even betray your country for it.

Of course he does as obviously he sent infected seniors back to their nursing homes to infect others in NY.

What does Cuomo and other Governors have to do with Trump's anti-mask game? More partisan crap.

That global pandemic was declared when and by whom?

By WHO on January 5...and then China on January 20.

In the meantime, for some 53 days, Trump played anti-mask games and told America that it was just a Democrat hoax. No government plan to produce N95s. No plan to deal with the coming economic fall out. Just a constant berating of health officials, which continued well after he abruptly sent the American economy into more of a spiral when he abruptly declared a national emergency. In the absence of a national leader, America was left to fend for itself.

You lose again. Gotta protect that partisanship, huh?


Stunning how you continue to focus on January/February 2020 ignoring the comments of WHO and CDC and even now the Democratic claims that China understated the Covid19

Top U.S. diplomat criticizes China, says 'need to get to the bottom' of COVID-19 origin | Reuters

Back to trying to solely blame China. Trump would be so proud of you for helping him escape "personal resposnbility."

In the meantime, back on February 6 of 2020, China had completed its highly public second COVID-19 hospital in 10 days. Funny how you think that the Secretary of State's comment, on April 11, 2021 (your link), about China's very brief moment of trying to keep it quiet somehow excuses Trump and the rest of his dipshit Administration from seeing entire hospitals being built back in February of 2020. In fact, Trump praised China 15 times for its transparency while the pandemic raged across the globe. Then, Trump commanded you to simply blame China. So, was Trump just too stupid to see what the entire world was seeing or was he playing you like a fiddle in order to create bogus political points against Democrats? Can't be both, pal.

You lose again. Blaming China is obvious scapegoating and partisan crap.

When will you ever understand the difference between a federal mandate and its relationship to revenue sent to DC?


When will you ever understand anything? You are always, always, always wrong. This is what happens when others produce links to ****ing facts while you entertain radical right-wing propaganda as your pathetic truth.
 
If someone can only views things thru one lens and that lens is manipulated to make themselves feel right despite the truth being the opposite there's almost zero chance they will ever understand any data or truths we post.

He understands. He lies. This is why he jumped from argument to argument when they all failed, in search of something to validate his irrational worship. He's also been caught changing data from official websites, as if those of who actually do know what we are talking about can't tell. Like I stated, he became so desperate that he actually tried to argue about cryptocurrency and that GDP no longer mattered! And he refuses to acknowledge what a 2.3% GDP in 2019 means. This is why he produces alternate misrepresentative numbers to hide that truth.

This is somebody who lies in order to create a delusion for himself, then expects all the rest of the world to play along for him. The sad thing is that he is so enslaved to his partisan game that it doesn't compute how false his world-view is if he has to lie to create it.

If you're wearing blinders you can't see. Imagine believing that the election was "stolen" and that Trump didn't tell ANY lies for 4 years? What planet does that thinking reside on? It's not Earth. What sort of person yells at other posters for calling Trump names, calling it "juvenile" and in the same post and future posts calls Biden names? Detached from reality and filled with rage. Must be a wonderful life.

I love how they tore each other apart for four years and really turned on each other in the end.

- They condemned their fellow Republicans (rinos) for putting conservatism above the GOP's radical right-wing agenda.
- They condemned all who Trump appointed as traitors if they ever dared show disloyalty to Trump.
- They shrugged off Trump's routine denigration of the military because those he denigrated were his "political" enemy.

- Then, the more extreme of them (the actual base) declared their disappointment in Trump for not following through on QAnon.
- Then, the more extreme of them attacked America in Trump's name, only to be thrown under the bus by Trump as "not being what MAGA is about," despite allowing Trump Nation to define it in anyway they pleased for four years.
- Then, Sidney Powell called them all stupid for believing the fraud hoax that Trump engineered, of which she and Giuliani crusaded for.
- Now, as you can read from Cult's posts, they are all about how Trump was a crusader against even the Republican "elites" of his own Party.

Trump turned them all into traitors who relied on debunked conspiracies about "deep states" and "establishments" and "elites" in order to excuse themselves from reason, logic, and simple common sense. They blindly supported a traitor who held secret meetings with Russians as Russians interfered in the Presidential election in 2016 on his behalf, routinely attacked American democracy and sided with dictators against American institutions, asked a foreign government in 2019 to help him win an election, created a hoax about fraud in order to steal the 2020 election, asked his VP to toss the Electoral College, then excited an already irrational mob that physically attacked Congress in order to force a Trump victory.

Ironic how, in the end, they were the true national traitors all along. Today's resentment is all about knowing this about themselves and about how wrong they always are because they politicize absolutely everything into absurdity. They have no ideologies to speak of. No sense of reason why they irrationally hate "the left." No sense of care for science. No sense of care for country. They resent everybody else for always being right. And plenty of them choose to lie in order to preserve a fantasy about themselves.
 
But Trump's numbers can't be that bad. He promised this:


Let us also remember that our dear poster Conservative belittled Obama during his years by saying, 'Obama's GDP was mediocre -- not even getting to 3% GDP in any year.' Well, neither did Trump but Con conveniently forgets that.


Nice to see that others remember his highly partisan record. When one false argument didn't pan out, he simply jumped off into another false argument.

He went from promoting Trump's game that Obama never saw a 3.0% to ignoring entirely that bankrupt-prone Trump, not only failed to see a 3.0% himself, but saw only a miserable 2.3% in 2019, which was lower than five prior years (three of which came under Obama.) In fact, Trump's highest was 2.9%, which matched Obama's highest. The former argument about not seeing a 3.0% was meant to produce a 2.9% as a failure. Where'd that argument go?

He preferred to only focus on how the economic condition of 2020 wasn't Trump's fault, even while Trump failed to be a leader on any level. Ever notice how their support for Trump steadily turned into arguing that the President of the United States should not be a leader? "Oh, you need the President to tell you to do something?" In the meantime, they followed and promoted Trump's anti-mask theme. Clearly, they clung to his every word, -even when he told them to "liberate themselves" from Democrat governors-, while the majority of America listened to health officials, doctors, and scientists. This is how perverted and hopelessly partisan their minds are.

He also went from arguing about national debt, ignoring what Bush started, to then ignoring the extra $8 trillion added by Trump, with no American project at all to explain it. Bush had the "War on Terror" and cut taxes in the meantime. Obama, had Universal Health Care, and cut taxes in the meantime. Trump had nothing but an agenda to feed the wealthy. For this, he bends his waste to celebrate Trump's existence as his Party routinely celebrates socialism and his Texas state constantly begs for federal handouts.

He makes no sense at all.
 
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Again with the "no understanding" from the guy who has clearly proven to be so desperate for a reason to blindly support Trump that he was caught lying about the numbers and routinely cuts/pastes charts that he doesn't fully understand because they frequently counter his bad arguments.

Pal, there's a reason you chose to dismiss GDP altogether and resort to promoting cryptocurrency as your new measurement for Trump's majesty. Funny how you quickly abandoned and chose to excuse Trump for the 2019 GDP "results." You know, before he exacerbated last year's 2020 economic mess and then insisted that you stay on your knees for him anyway...cuz "communism" and "fraud" and hoax."

I am not your pal and you are obvious ignorant of GDP data and what spends --NOT PERCERTAGE CHANGE. What is wrong with people like you? I never have abandoned dollar change, it is you that wants to prop up failure. You tell me the difference between 2.5% on 14 trillion dollars and 2.5% on 19 trillion dollars, which one is more and which one is more beneficial to the revenue for the federal, state and local governments and citizens?

Yes we had a mess in 2020 and cannot help but notice how you ignored the question, did you support the economic shutdown which was bipartisan to stop the spread of the virus or to generate bad economic numbers to blame on Trump? Your blind partisan support for liberalism shows how easy it is to indoctrinate good people
 
Yes, that is what integrity means. Speaking of....




Forget that he routinely fails to produce a link in order to verify that he hasn't altered the data again. And let's forget that he highlights select numbers over the period in order to belittle the other numbers. Let's look at all those numbers (in red) and what I and the rest of the world calls an inherited ****ing trend.

- Note how in 2008 the number is 14.
- Then in 2011 it is 15.
- Then in 2012 it is 16.
- Then 2014 it is 17.
- Then 2015 it is 18.
- Then in 2017 it is 19. <----Praise Trump?!
- Then in 2018 it is 20.
- Then in 2019 it is 21.

Funny how the numbers simply climb from one to the next since the Great Recession, creating a trend, huh? For the sake of those who want to see the actual GDP percentage, without 'Conservative's' chart misrepresentation:

Facts from the balance:

2008: -0.1%
2009: -2.5%
2010: 2.6%
2011: 1.6%
2012: 2.2%
2013: 1.8%
2014: 2.5%
2015: 2.9%
2016: 1.6%
2017: 2.4%
2018: 2.9%
2019: 2.3% <----Lower than 2018, 2017, 2015, 2014, and 2010.

Facts from the World Bank:

2008: -0.1%
2009: -2.5%
2010: 2.6%
2011: 1.6%
2012: 2.2%
2013: 1.8%
2014: 2.5%
2015: 2.9%
2016: 1.6%
2017: 2.3%
2018: 2.9%
2019: 2.1% <---- Lower than 2018, 2017, 2015, 2014, and 2010.

Facts from the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, showing the U.S. Real GDP Growth Rate:

2008: -2.75%
2009: -0.18%
2010: 2.57%
2011: 1.61%
2012: 1.47%
2013: 2.61%
2014: 2.88%
2015: 1.90%
2016: 2.03%
2017: 2.80%
2018: 2.52%
2019: 2.29% <---- Lower than 2018, 2017, 2014, 2013, and 2010.


Numbers do not lie. Only partisan hacks and Trump Nation lies.

Yes, the number of 14 to 18 is four trillion dollars in 8 years or 500 billion per year the 19 to 21.7 is 2.7 trillion in three years or 900 billion per year. Stunning how that reality doesn't resonate with you. Do you know the difference between 500 billion per year and 900 billion per year? Basic math doesn't seem to exist but propaganda and indoctrination do
 
Proof of your partisanship:

I'm talking about Texas, not conservatives. Yet, you immediately default to defending conservatives by declaring that liberals also live in Texas. What the **** does that have to do with Texas always requiring federal handouts and federal aid?

This is exactly why you always lose. You see nothing beyond your partisan crap and would even betray your country for it.

What is partisan about Congressional laws created to help people in need like the Pell Grant for college? You buy rhetoric and ignore that money going to the states are for specific programs created by Congress and have nothing to do with the revenue going to the federal gov't. This seems to be a deficiency in basic civics education or should I say complete lacking of a good education?



What does Cuomo and other Governors have to do with Trump's anti-mask game? More partisan crap.

Not surprising, the "big brother ideology" in you ignores that states govern the actions within their states not the President. Cuomo can declare and enforce a mask mandate the President can't. Do they offer civics education in your state?



By WHO on January 5...and then China on January 20.

In the meantime, for some 53 days, Trump played anti-mask games and told America that it was just a Democrat hoax. No government plan to produce N95s. No plan to deal with the coming economic fall out. Just a constant berating of health officials, which continued well after he abruptly sent the American economy into more of a spiral when he abruptly declared a national emergency. In the absence of a national leader, America was left to fend for itself.

You lose again. Gotta protect that partisanship, huh?

By WHO on January 5? What was "Your" President saying in January about Covid? What did Pelosi do in January about Covid? What exactly did WHO and CDC say about Covid in January. You are so full of partisan hatred it is destroying what little credibility you thought you had




Back to trying to solely blame China. Trump would be so proud of you for helping him escape "personal resposnbility."

Your party is now blaming China so Trump was right

In the meantime, back on February 6 of 2020, China had completed its highly public second COVID-19 hospital in 10 days. Funny how you think that the Secretary of State's comment, on April 11, 2021 (your link), about China's very brief moment of trying to keep it quiet somehow excuses Trump and the rest of his dipshit Administration from seeing entire hospitals being built back in February of 2020. In fact, Trump praised China 15 times for its transparency while the pandemic raged across the globe. Then, Trump commanded you to simply blame China. So, was Trump just too stupid to see what the entire world was seeing or was he playing you like a fiddle in order to create bogus political points against Democrats? Can't be both, pal.

How many Covid Deaths did China claim even through mid 2020? A population of over a billion people and you still buy rhetoric and ignore the results

What is really sad is that you support an ideology that never accepts responsibility but instead always blames someone else. You fit into that ideology well

In case you missed it this is March 2021 and January was the worst months for deaths since covid 19 began. You have no credibility blaming Trump rhetoric in January/March 2020 for deaths today
 
Yes, that is what integrity means. Speaking of....




Forget that he routinely fails to produce a link in order to verify that he hasn't altered the data again. And let's forget that he highlights select numbers over the period in order to belittle the other numbers. Let's look at all those numbers (in red) and what I and the rest of the world calls an inherited ****ing trend.

- Note how in 2008 the number is 14.
- Then in 2011 it is 15.
- Then in 2012 it is 16.
- Then 2014 it is 17.
- Then 2015 it is 18.
- Then in 2017 it is 19. <----Praise Trump?!
- Then in 2018 it is 20.
- Then in 2019 it is 21.

Funny how the numbers simply climb from one to the next since the Great Recession, creating a trend, huh? For the sake of those who want to see the actual GDP percentage, without 'Conservative's' chart misrepresentation:

Facts from the balance:

2008: -0.1%
2009: -2.5%
2010: 2.6%
2011: 1.6%
2012: 2.2%
2013: 1.8%
2014: 2.5%
2015: 2.9%
2016: 1.6%
2017: 2.4%
2018: 2.9%
2019: 2.3% <----Lower than 2018, 2017, 2015, 2014, and 2010.

Facts from the World Bank:

2008: -0.1%
2009: -2.5%
2010: 2.6%
2011: 1.6%
2012: 2.2%
2013: 1.8%
2014: 2.5%
2015: 2.9%
2016: 1.6%
2017: 2.3%
2018: 2.9%
2019: 2.1% <---- Lower than 2018, 2017, 2015, 2014, and 2010.

Facts from the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, showing the U.S. Real GDP Growth Rate:

2008: -2.75%
2009: -0.18%
2010: 2.57%
2011: 1.61%
2012: 1.47%
2013: 2.61%
2014: 2.88%
2015: 1.90%
2016: 2.03%
2017: 2.80%
2018: 2.52%
2019: 2.29% <---- Lower than 2018, 2017, 2014, 2013, and 2010.


Numbers do not lie. Only partisan hacks and Trump Nation lies.

The more I think of this the more frustrated I get with liberals, Apparently 500 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR is the same as 900 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR because the percentage change is the same. Can people reading this forum see how foolish and ignorant people on the left are? 400 BILLION is real money and a real difference.

Also it should be noted but is ignore by the left there are four components of GDP with gov't spending being one of them, the real component that matters to measure economic growth is consumer spending/activity but the left wants to ignore that. Gov't spending will increase GDP but the real impact to GDP is consumer spending showing the confidence the consumer has in the economy and state of the economy. That is the final nail in the Obama economic coffin showing quite a difference between the economic activity during both Administrations, Obama 300 billion of the 500 billion was consumer spending whereas 600 billion of the 900 billion Trump GDP was consumer spending showing the effects of the tax cuts. It was those tax cuts that also led to massive state and local revenue growth as states get their revenue mostly from sales and property taxes

Now are you mature enough to admit that you are wrong?
 
I am not your pal....

You are just upset that everybody else is clearly smarter than you. I forgive you, friend.

...and you are obvious ignorant of GDP data and what spends --NOT PERCERTAGE CHANGE.

Yet, I just schooled you again with your own data. How do you not understand how consecutively counting from 14 and 21 is not a clearly documented trend?! Lets do it again so that all can see your stubborn refusal to remove yourself from Trump's false altar...

- In 2008 the number is 14.
- Then in 2011 it is 15.
- Then in 2012 it is 16.
- Then in 2014 it is 17.
- Then in 2015 it is 18.
- Then in 2017 it is 19. <---- This is the part where you don't seem to understand how Trump simply showed up. Guess what would have happened had Obama been elected a third term.
- Then in 2018 it is 20.
- Then in 2019 it is 21.


What is wrong with people like you?

We are educated, apply reason and common sense, and sit outside political circle jerks that keep us blind to even the obvious. Again, count from 14, don't skip a number, and stop at 21.


Yes had a mess in 2020 and cannot help but notice how you ignored the question, did you support the economic shutdown which was bipartisan to stop the spread of the virus or to generate bad economic numbers to blame on Trump? Your blind partisan support for liberalism shows how easy it is to indoctrinate good people

I did not support the disorganized way they did it, and did not support Trump's reckless abandonment to open back up, in which red state infections spiked all summer. These were the results of Trump's poor handling, poor leadership, and all around bad behavior. But you like to excuse Trump from "personal responsibility" don't you? It helps you avoid what a piece of shit he always was. There were plenty of states that presented models for how to do this (Colorado was one). There were entire countries that presented better models (Australia was one).

But we chose to play anti-mask games, do nothing in terms of economic or social programs for 53 days, and routinely harass health officials so that the idiot in the White House could create false "political" opposition for people like you. I remind you that even China managed to construct two COVID hospitals by February 6, fourteen days before Xi announced that this was out of hand, and while other countries were already implementing measures to slow the spread. Odd how even our enemies displayed better leadership, planning, and guidance. At the time, and until March 13, Trump was praising XI for his transparency (in order to generate a trade-war point before election time) while mocking American health officials and telling you that wearing a mask like a Democrat is a sign of weakness and "liberalism." <---- There's your indoctrination. He didn't even have to try hard to keep you leashed up. He learned from years of right-wing manipulation tactics that simple keywords is enough to have you obeying what ever the **** they command of you. I mean, you blindly supported a national traitor no matter what he did in your name over words like "Democrat" and democracy" and "liberalism."

This game you play where everybody is a lemming, other than what durps about in the right-wing, defies the reality. How did QAnon work out? How about Trump's hoax to steal an election? You people are clearly the indoctrinated and partisan enslaved. 500,000 dead Americans later, is this still just a Democrat hoax? I don't see a Biden Nation. Liberalism is the opposite of being indoctrinated. Liberalism is the willingness to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own, being open to new ideas, and a promotion of individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise. By contrast, conservatives limit this and even build walls to obstruct. Sidney Powell and the rest of Trump's coven obviously knows how you all respond to obstruction and anti-democratic tactics. It's why they attempted to steal the election and received your blessing. Perhaps if you hadn't allowed yourself to be marched directly towards or even into the alt-right's camp over the last four years, you would have more respect for my country and what it stands for. Read....a...****ing....book.
 
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You are just upset that everybody else is clearly smarter than you. I forgive you, friend.

Actually there are a lot of people smarter than me, you just don't happen to be one of them



Yet, I just schooled you again with your own data. How do you not understand how consecutively counting from 14 and 21 is not a clearly documented trend?! Lets do it again so that all can see your stubborn refusal to remove yourself from Trump's false altar...

-- Then in 2018 it is 20.
- Then in 2019 it is 21.

Typical liberal rounding up for benefit, I gave you the official numbers, 900 billion dollars per year growth isn't the same as 500 billion dollars per year growth even if the same percentage change. This really is embarrassing.

14.7 to 18.7 = 4 trillion dollars in 8 years 500 billion per year

18.7 trillion to 21.4 trillion = 2.7 trillion in 3 years is 900 billion per year.

The four billion dollar difference for those first three years of Trump=1.2 TRILLION dollars, that is real money




We are educated, apply reason and common sense, and sit outside political circle jerks that keep us blind to even the obvious. Again, count from 14, don't skip a number, and stop at 21.

Never skipped any number, post the spreadsheet from BEA.gov, Bureau of Economic Analysis, they don't round they provide the official data




I did not support the disorganized way they did it, and did not support Trump's reckless abandonment to open back up, in which red state infections spiked all summer. There were plenty of states that presented models for how to do this (Colorado was one). There were entire countries that presented better models.

Colorado? You mean the state the manipulated the Covid death total? You still focus on January/March and not later in the year and certainly not January 2021

But we chose to play anti-mask games, do nothing in terms of economic or social programs for 53 days, and routinely harass health officials so that the idiot in the White House could create false "political" opposition for people like you. I remind you that even China managed to construct two COVID hospitals by February 6, fourteen days before Xi announced that this was out of hand, and while other countries were already implementing measures to slow the spread. Trump was mocking health officials and telling you that wearing a mask is a sign of weakness and "liberalism." <---- There's your indoctrination. He didn't even have to try hard to keep you leashed up.

Someone who never took management 101 obviously doesn't know that you cannot have responsibility without authority. As for China, cannot believe how duped you are and how you buy their lies and rhetoric. 45000 deaths from a pandemic and country of over a billion people?? You really are naive and indoctrinated. You tell me to do something and I doing it makes me responsible not you as you have no authority over me. Trump sent the hospital ship to NYC and it wasn't used, he gave the incentive to create a vaccine that is free to Americans and did it record time something the left said would be a miracle. He promoted the private sector and put Americans first, how can someone who claims to be from our military not support those ideas?

This game you play where everybody other than what durps about in the right-wing are a bunch of lemmings defies the reality. How did QAnon work out? How about Trump's hoax to steal an election? You people are clearly the indoctrinated and partisan enslaved. I don't see a Biden Nation. Liberalism is the opposite of being indoctrinated. It is the willingness to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own, being open to new ideas, and a promotion of individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise. Perhaps if you hadn't allowed yourself to be marched directly towards or even into the alt-right's camp over the last four years, you would have more respect for my country and what it stands for. Read....a...****ing....book.

Dementia Joe is "your" President, socialism is your ideology, and living in a liberal utopia is a fraud. You actually believe Dementia Joe is the most popular President in U.S. History? When is he going to start being President and protecting this country at our borders?

As I told you and you ignored, I grew up a staunch JFK Democrat, vote for Democrats until that Ideology left me and I realized it was a fraud. I understand the role of the federal, state, and local governments as well as personal responsibility, when will you learn those roles
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Yes, the number of 14 to 18 is four trillion dollars in 8 years or 500 billion per year the 19 to 21.7 is 2.7 trillion in three years or 900 billion per year. Stunning how that reality doesn't resonate with you. Do you know the difference between 500 billion per year and 900 billion per year? Basic math doesn't seem to exist but propaganda and indoctrination do

As you have been told over and over and over and over:

It's called an exponential trend, which is why, as the economy improved from what Republicans largely did to it, the economic numbers also translated to exponential job recovery. And when Trump took over the trend, he tampered and injected a temporary boost that saw a 2.9% in 2018. From this artificial injection he told you to bow to his magic. But from this artificial injection came the downturn. From that artificial 2.9%, the GDP dramatically dropped to 2.3% in 2019, which is lower than it would have been had Trump not introduced a quick cash grab for people who are not you, but at your expense. Then came his exacerbated mess of 2020.

Yes, basic math can be your friend. So can common sense. So can a desire to be more than a parroting puppet.
 
As you have been told over and over and over and over:

It's called an exponential trend, which is why, as the economy improved from what Republicans largely did to it, the economic numbers also translated to exponential job recovery. And when Trump took over the trend, he tampered and injected a temporary boost that saw a 2.9% in 2018. From this artificial injection he told you to bow to his magic. But from this artificial injection came the downturn. From that artificial 2.9%, the GDP dramatically dropped to 2.3% in 2019, which is lower than it would have been had Trump not introduced a quick cash grab for people who are not you, but at your expense. Then came his exacerbated mess of 2020.

Yes, basic math can be your friend. So can common sense. So can a desire to be more than a parroting puppet.


Exponential trend? What is wrong with you, it is real dollars, 1.2 trillion over those three years and that is real money. If you bothered to check the numbers you would see that even by your standards 2016 was heading us towards a recession and the dollar growth was declining the last three years. What is it about liberalism that creates your loyalty and total ignorance of reality. You don't seem to grasp the difference between a 2.3% growth from a low and higher denominator. Do you know what denominator is in an equation?

Also by the way, thank "your" President for the following

 
As you have been told over and over and over and over:

It's called an exponential trend, which is why, as the economy improved from what Republicans largely did to it, the economic numbers also translated to exponential job recovery. And when Trump took over the trend, he tampered and injected a temporary boost that saw a 2.9% in 2018. From this artificial injection he told you to bow to his magic. But from this artificial injection came the downturn. From that artificial 2.9%, the GDP dramatically dropped to 2.3% in 2019, which is lower than it would have been had Trump not introduced a quick cash grab for people who are not you, but at your expense. Then came his exacerbated mess of 2020.

Yes, basic math can be your friend. So can common sense. So can a desire to be more than a parroting puppet.

You really don't like your country much do you? You hate the free enterprise, capitalism economic model, and America first policies? You hate personal responsibility, don't you?

14-15-16-17-18 and so on aren't the same as in dealing with real dollars and amounting to trillions. 400 BILLION DOLLARS is a lot of economic activity and tax revenue to the gov't's we have including state and local.

Are we safer today because of Trump OR Biden?
 
What is partisan about Congressional laws created to help people in need like the Pell Grant for college?

Partisan is defending Texas from the "red state" perspective. You immediately default to defending conservatives and using the existence of liberals to do it. Funny how you people love denigrating liberals, but frequently employ them to justify you.

You buy rhetoric and ignore that money going to the states are for specific programs created by Congress and have nothing to do with the revenue going to the federal gov't. This seems to be a deficiency in basic civics education or should I say complete lacking of a good education?

And back to your "you don't understand basic civics" crap. How's this for civics:

- If Texans aren't begging for federal assistance (hurricanes, freeze, hospitals, schools, etc.), they are whining about seceding (the latest being House Bill 1359 just this January), while perversely presenting themselves as patriots.

Start state taxing and electing smarter people and maybe you wouldn't be such a burden.


Not surprising, the "big brother ideology" in you ignores...

The Patriot Act was Republican.
Telling the more retarded of society to "liberate themselves" from state governors was Trump.
Deploying federal law enforcement to state issues was Trump.
Texas constantly receiving federal aid, in the absence of state taxes, requires "big brother."

You people have proven that "big brother" is not a problem for you. Trump exposed plenty.

By WHO on January 5? What was "Your" President saying in January about Covid? What did Pelosi do in January about Covid? What exactly did WHO and CDC say about Covid in January. You are so full of partisan hatred it is destroying what little credibility you thought you had

I gave you the links to exactly what WHO and China said. It is permissible for grown adults to read.

Again, you prove just how partisan and deflecting you are. What does it matter what Biden, Pelosi, or anybody else briefly said in January? What matters is what Trump said and did from January to November. While the rest quickly developed an understanding of this virus as health officials developed their understanding, Trump continued his political game until he abruptly admitted that it was more than a hoax on March 13. But he commenced to still play his game for you. Using Biden or Pelosi in January to excuse Trump's year long blundering is pathetic, especially from one who likes to present those Democrats as being beneath Trump. Once again we see the cult using what they hate to defend Trump.

And Biden is America's President, just like Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Reagan before him. There is no Biden Nation. There is no eagerness to betray religion, nation, and simple common sense for him. There is no elevated demagogue status offered to him. The fact that you need something else to be the case is personal deflection for what our country experienced for four years as Trump catered to only you and the rest of the far-right cult.

"Partisan" would be another word that you should look up.

Your party is now blaming China so Trump was right

I'm not a Democrat. Democrats are just the ones who use functioning brains anymore.

How many Covid Deaths did China claim even through mid 2020?

Dead Chinese helps you excuse Trump and the many thousands of Americans who died because Covid was just a "Democrat hoax?" Does this help you ignore the American dead in red states, who were so easily bullied into recklessly opening during the summer because Trump said so? Wow, you really do have it bad for Trump.

What is really sad is that you support an ideology that never accepts responsibility...

From the guy who is so entirely obsessed with excusing Trump and his Republican faithful from personal responsibility...and from a Texas that constantly has its hand out. :rolleyes:
 
Partisan is defending Texas from the "red state" perspective. You immediately default to defending conservatives and using the existence of liberals to do it. Funny how you people love denigrating liberals, but frequently employ them to justify you.

I realize how hard this is for you to understand but there are blue supporters in this Red state of TX and people keep moving here fleeing Blue states, why is that? I denigrate radical liberals who are out of touch with reality that this country was built on individual responsibilities and individual freedoms not a massive central big brother concept



- If Texans aren't begging for federal assistance (hurricanes, freeze, hospitals, schools, etc.), they are whining about seceding (the latest being House Bill 1359 just this January), while perversely presenting themselves as patriots.

Begging for assistance? Really? that is your argument? A national disaster like Hurricane Harvey, Imelda? How about Hurricane Katrina or Hurricane Sandy? That kind of assistance from other states? It is stunning your hatred of Texas and the fact that the state continues to attract people. I am NOT from TX but love living here because of the freedoms we have, yes even freedoms to make bad mistakes.

As for Covid 19 response again you ignore that this was a bipartisan bill that funds hospitals and reimbursement for Covid19 expenses. Is that what you want rejected?

QUOTE]start state taxing and electing smarter people and maybe you wouldn't be such a burden. [/QUOTE]

Got it, start taxing and taking money away from the individuals who earned it, that is the liberal way and the way to create career politicians. Sorry but the bastions of liberalism, California and NY aren't very good models and are seeing people flee their state because they aren't getting the benefits of all those high taxes or at least don't feel those benefits

The Patriot Act was Republican.
Telling the more retarded of society to "liberate themselves" from state governors was Trump.
Deploying federal law enforcement to state issues was Trump.
Texas constantly receiving federal aid, in the absence of state taxes, requires "big brother."

Yes it was and it was bipartisan in support. What is it about liberalism that creates people like you and the belief you don't have any personal responsibility and can always blame someone else?

Deploying federal law enforcement to state issues? what state issues, discrimination? How are things in Chaz? What a bunch of bullshit you spew, and you claim to have served in the military?
 
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