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BLM is now Blow Law Men Away

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What does BLM have to do with your link?

It mentions nothing of BLM to do with this shooting nor does it even identify the 'race' of the killers.

Jeez...wait for at least some hard evidence before you condemn people/organizations.
 

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I'll wait until we know BLM was somehow connected to it. That said, if they are, then it's time to condemn them widely.

I think they've already been condemned already, at least, by a significant portion of the population.
 

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I think they've already been condemned already, at least, by a significant portion of the population.

yep
also widely criticized acorn and planned parenthood
only for us to find that neither organization warranted the widespread derision

want to get rid of an entity, demagogue it
 

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Who didn't see this coming two years ago?

Baton Rouge Police Officers Reportedly Shot

ASSUMPTION: It was BLM that is targeting the police and killing them!!!!!!

REALITY (from your OWN reference): It was an ongoing gun battle that did not originally involve police...and when the police did show up, then one of the sides involved in the gun battle began shooting at the police.

But of course, in right-wing wacko-world, THOU SHALT ALWAYS ASSUME that it's the black people targeting police...and that anybody who thinks otherwise must be a pinko-commie-socialist-progressive-liberal-nazi-fascist-evil-bad person who hates police and loves BLM!
 

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What does BLM have to do with your link?

It mentions nothing of BLM to do with this shooting nor does it even identify the 'race' of the killers.

Jeez...wait for at least some hard evidence before you condemn people/organizations.

Is there any doubt? There is none in my mind. We know who shot these cops.

BLM has been pushing this for two years. Now they get their wish. And, soon, the cops will respond in kind. And, no jury will ever convict them.
 

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If its blow law men away then shouldnt it be abbreviated as BLMA? Right now if you follow the letters it just spells out BLOW LAW MEN... big difference there. :2razz:

Maybe the law men wouldn't mind so much if that's all they did.
 

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ASSUMPTION: It was BLM that is targeting the police and killing them!!!!!!

REALITY (from your OWN reference): It was an ongoing gun battle that did not originally involve police...and when the police did show up, then one of the sides involved in the gun battle began shooting at the police.

But of course, in right-wing wacko-world, THOU SHALT ALWAYS ASSUME that it's the black people targeting police...and that anybody who thinks otherwise must be a pinko-commie-socialist-progressive-liberal-nazi-fascist-evil-bad person who hates police and loves BLM!

When BLM chants kill the police, when LEFT Wing media goes on endlessly with their lies about cops killing black people, who you going to blame when we suddenly start seeing people shoot cops dead in cold blood? Wait, let me guess, cops?
 

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When BLM chants kill the police, when LEFT Wing media goes on endlessly with their lies about cops killing black people, who you going to blame when we suddenly start seeing people shoot cops dead in cold blood? Wait, let me guess, cops?

And that makes it okay for you to blame BLM for cops getting killed in responding to a gunfight that was already in progress, as if it was all part of their "master plan"?

C'mon, now.

And that same much-ballyhooed study that said that blacks aren't being killed by cops as often as whites (in ONE city, mind you because it only really studied Houston) ALSO pointed out that according to the numbers, blacks WERE assaulted by cops at a significantly higher rate than were the whites. And it's been pointed out by study after study after study that blacks are given significantly harsher sentences than whites even when the crimes and the criminal records are the same.

Are we supposed to pretend all that isn't happening?

And ask yourself this: when the blacks see that they ARE assaulted by police more often than whites are when the alleged crime is the same, and when the blacks see that they ARE given harsher sentences than whites when the crimes and the criminal records are the same, do you really, truly expect that they would meekly accept their lot? Do you really?

NONE of the above is meant as justification for any violence - it's not and never could be. BUT y'all need to start looking at the whole story - not just the acts of the individuals, but the societal pressures they face on a daily basis (that you yourself have likely NEVER faced) that result in the in the society-wide righteous anger and righteous frustration that young men decide to use as excuses for the evil they do.

Law enforcement is a band-aid. If you want to fix the ills, then you need to realize that the problem isn't all on one side...that it's a heck of a lot bigger and far more complex than simply "telling the blacks to behave themselves".
 

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I'll wait until we know BLM was somehow connected to it. That said, if they are, then it's time to condemn them widely.

Are you waiting for them to turn themselves in ? :lamo
 

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And that makes it okay for you to blame BLM for cops getting killed in responding to a gunfight that was already in progress, as if it was all part of their "master plan"?

C'mon, now.

And that same much-ballyhooed study that said that blacks aren't being killed by cops as often as whites (in ONE city, mind you because it only really studied Houston) ALSO pointed out that according to the numbers, blacks WERE assaulted by cops at a significantly higher rate than were the whites. And it's been pointed out by study after study after study that blacks are given significantly harsher sentences than whites even when the crimes and the criminal records are the same.

Are we supposed to pretend all that isn't happening?

And ask yourself this: when the blacks see that they ARE assaulted by police more often than whites are when the alleged crime is the same, and when the blacks see that they ARE given harsher sentences than whites when the crimes and the criminal records are the same, do you really, truly expect that they would meekly accept their lot? Do you really?

NONE of the above is meant as justification for any violence - it's not and never could be. BUT y'all need to start looking at the whole story - not just the acts of the individuals, but the societal pressures they face on a daily basis (that you yourself have likely NEVER faced) that result in the in the society-wide righteous anger and righteous frustration that young men decide to use as excuses for the evil they do.

Law enforcement is a band-aid. If you want to fix the ills, then you need to realize that the problem isn't all on one side...that it's a heck of a lot bigger and far more complex than simply "telling the blacks to behave themselves".

Do you honestly believe killing cops will sole this problem? I suspect BLM has just alienated any potential allies they might have found in the white community.

And, if you actually believe this was just an active gunfight that the cops came up upon, and that it was not an ambush, a planned assassination, you must be in the market for a bridge.
 

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Do you honestly believe killing cops will sole this problem? I suspect BLM has just alienated any potential allies they might have found in the white community.

And, if you actually believe this was just an active gunfight that the cops came up upon, and that it was not an ambush, a planned assassination, you must be in the market for a bridge.

Did I say that or even imply it? No, I did not. That's just you trying to build a strawman. Deal with what I actually say - not what you personally want to believe I said.

And until it is shown that the gunfight was in fact a planned ambush, it will not be declared to have been one. It is flat wrong to ASSUME anything until the facts are in...and the facts concerning what the gunmen were doing shooting at each other are NOT YET in.

If it turns out to be an ambush, then we'll discuss that. But until then, it wasn't an ambush.

Back in the Navy, we were taught to be very careful about making assumptions, because assumptions can get people killed - in fact, most fatal accidents can be tracked to erroneous assumptions of one sort or another. That's what's behind the old saying that when you "assume", you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".
 

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Did I say that or even imply it? No, I did not. That's just you trying to build a strawman. Deal with what I actually say - not what you personally want to believe I said.

And until it is shown that the gunfight was in fact a planned ambush, it will not be declared to have been one. It is flat wrong to ASSUME anything until the facts are in...and the facts concerning what the gunmen were doing shooting at each other are NOT YET in.

If it turns out to be an ambush, then we'll discuss that. But until then, it wasn't an ambush.

Back in the Navy, we were taught to be very careful about making assumptions, because assumptions can get people killed - in fact, most fatal accidents can be tracked to erroneous assumptions of one sort or another. That's what's behind the old saying that when you "assume", you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".

It's being reported as an ambush by a former Marine, Nation of Islam nutcase, whose Facebook posts clearly indicate that BLM rhetoric is what drove him over the edge. Are you living on an island with the only feed being DP on your internet connection?
 

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It's being reported as an ambush by a former Marine, Nation of Islam nutcase, whose Facebook posts clearly indicate that BLM rhetoric is what drove him over the edge. Are you living on an island with the only feed being DP on your internet connection?

Here's some more about the shooter:

Long also went by the name Cosmo Setepenra, and had at least two websites where he described himself as a "Freedom Strategist, Mental Game Coach, Nutritionist, Author and Spiritual Advisor," according to a CNN review of the websites.
In addition, Long followed several conspiracy groups devoted to government surveillance and monitoring. CNN found that an email address linked to Long showed he was a member of a support group in an organization called Freedom from Covert Harassment and Surveillance, whose mission is to help those "Marginalized and abused by... Remote Brain experimentation, Remote Neural Monitoring of an entire Humans Body."


He was a freaking crazy-assed nutcase who had access to an assault-style rifle (which, btw, describes to a 'T' the Dallas shooter - a nutcase who had access to an assault-style rifle)!

But noooooo...y'all gotta point the finger at BLM! Instead of addressing the problem - nutcases who have easy access to firearms - y'all just gotta point instead to your favorite whipping boy of the month, which in this case is BLM.
 

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And that makes it okay for you to blame BLM for cops getting killed in responding to a gunfight that was already in progress, as if it was all part of their "master plan"?

C'mon, now.

And that same much-ballyhooed study that said that blacks aren't being killed by cops as often as whites (in ONE city, mind you because it only really studied Houston) ALSO pointed out that according to the numbers, blacks WERE assaulted by cops at a significantly higher rate than were the whites. And it's been pointed out by study after study after study that blacks are given significantly harsher sentences than whites even when the crimes and the criminal records are the same.

Are we supposed to pretend all that isn't happening?

And ask yourself this: when the blacks see that they ARE assaulted by police more often than whites are when the alleged crime is the same, and when the blacks see that they ARE given harsher sentences than whites when the crimes and the criminal records are the same, do you really, truly expect that they would meekly accept their lot? Do you really?

NONE of the above is meant as justification for any violence - it's not and never could be. BUT y'all need to start looking at the whole story - not just the acts of the individuals, but the societal pressures they face on a daily basis (that you yourself have likely NEVER faced) that result in the in the society-wide righteous anger and righteous frustration that young men decide to use as excuses for the evil they do.

Law enforcement is a band-aid. If you want to fix the ills, then you need to realize that the problem isn't all on one side...that it's a heck of a lot bigger and far more complex than simply "telling the blacks to behave themselves".

The police need to be tougher on blacks imo.. They are still killing people hand over fist even with your "harsh" crackdown..
 

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Did I say that or even imply it? No, I did not. That's just you trying to build a strawman. Deal with what I actually say - not what you personally want to believe I said.

And until it is shown that the gunfight was in fact a planned ambush, it will not be declared to have been one. It is flat wrong to ASSUME anything until the facts are in...and the facts concerning what the gunmen were doing shooting at each other are NOT YET in.

If it turns out to be an ambush, then we'll discuss that. But until then, it wasn't an ambush.

Back in the Navy, we were taught to be very careful about making assumptions, because assumptions can get people killed - in fact, most fatal accidents can be tracked to erroneous assumptions of one sort or another. That's what's behind the old saying that when you "assume", you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".

Are you ever correct when it comes to such things?
 

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The police need to be tougher on blacks imo.. They are still killing people hand over fist even with your "harsh" crackdown..

One sees your post, and the picture you use, and your signature, and one knows that it would be an utter waste of time to debate you. Good day, sir.
 

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The police need to be tougher on blacks imo.. They are still killing people hand over fist even with your "harsh" crackdown..

Exactly what a racist would say. Coincidence?
 

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Here's some more about the shooter:

Long also went by the name Cosmo Setepenra, and had at least two websites where he described himself as a "Freedom Strategist, Mental Game Coach, Nutritionist, Author and Spiritual Advisor," according to a CNN review of the websites.
In addition, Long followed several conspiracy groups devoted to government surveillance and monitoring. CNN found that an email address linked to Long showed he was a member of a support group in an organization called Freedom from Covert Harassment and Surveillance, whose mission is to help those "Marginalized and abused by... Remote Brain experimentation, Remote Neural Monitoring of an entire Humans Body."


He was a freaking crazy-assed nutcase who had access to an assault-style rifle (which, btw, describes to a 'T' the Dallas shooter - a nutcase who had access to an assault-style rifle)!

But noooooo...y'all gotta point the finger at BLM! Instead of addressing the problem - nutcases who have easy access to firearms - y'all just gotta point instead to your favorite whipping boy of the month, which in this case is BLM.

Well, who exactly has been the group raising stink about cops killing blacks, as if that was really some sort of problem?
 

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One sees your post, and the picture you use, and your signature, and one knows that it would be an utter waste of time to debate you. Good day, sir.

Working in Detroit this summer, all over in Detroit, we have been robbed 4 times so far this summer..

Guess how many times we were robbed in non-black areas... OBAMA .... Er, I mean ZERO..



I have first hand real time experience. Of the last 3 months I may have spent 2 weeks max total time outside of 7 mile..


The blacks need to be cracked down on more in the BLACK neighborhoods.. Full of bullet holes and robbing people..

The racism occurs in the non-black neighborhoods.. I see this too and feel bad for them but when you live within a few miles of the black neighborhoods and see what that's like you can understand them being concerned..
 

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Working in Detroit this summer, all over in Detroit, we have been robbed 4 times so far this summer..

Guess how many times we were robbed in non-black areas... OBAMA .... Er, I mean ZERO..



I have first hand real time experience. Of the last 3 months I may have spent 2 weeks max total time outside of 7 mile..


The blacks need to be cracked down on more in the BLACK neighborhoods.. Full of bullet holes and robbing people..

The racism occurs in the non-black neighborhoods.. I see this too and feel bad for them but when you live within a few miles of the black neighborhoods and see what that's like you can understand them being concerned..

Most of the white people yammering about Black Lives Matter definitely have never lived or sent their kids to school in places like Detroit city proper.

I see a bunch of lily White BLM supporters who live in our little hippy village posting on my FB feed. Most of them send their kids to private, all-white schools while yammering about Black lives this and Black lives that. How much you want to bet they would be whistling a completely different tune if their precious little safe-space child went to a school in the hood?
 
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