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Blinken: 'Irreversible’ withdrawal necessary to lift sanctions on Russia

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Blinken: 'Irreversible’ withdrawal necessary to lift sanctions on Russia




From what I understand, Zelenskyy is demanding a Russian withdrawal from all of Ukraine, including Crimea and the Luhansk/Donetsk statelets in eastern Ukraine.
 
From what I understand, Zelenskyy is demanding a Russian withdrawal from all of Ukraine, including Crimea and the Luhansk/Donetsk statelets in eastern Ukraine.
Goes to show how confident he is in their position. It would be insane if they somehow ended up getting Crimea back after all this. They really should, as there are huge offshore oil deposits off the coast of Crimea. Russia took control of THEIR OIL DRILLING RIGS when it seized Crimea in 2014.
 
Personally, I think that is the only legitimate resolution to the conflict. The question is, how is that to be accomplished?
The only possible way I can see that happening is if Ukraine's military pushed Russia's forces out of Ukraine (including the Donbass and Crimea).
 
I still think this is going to be a decades long battle (militarily, financially and covertly).
 
I still think this is going to be a decades long battle (militarily, financially and covertly).
I'm not so sure. Putin has gotten himself in a pickle. The economy is crashing, the people are getting restive (a minority, to be sure, but revolutions have succeeded with less), the bulk of its land forces are bogged down in foreign territory. Ukraine, although devastated, is the darling of Europe (as it should be) and will likely get huge support - and maybe even Polish MiGs - to fight. The Russian forces are demoralized, and the International Court of Justice has said "Nyet" to the invasion.

I think this may be Putin's Waterloo. Imagine this: a palace coup, a genuine move toward democracy, and a mea culpa from the incoming regime.... Russia could be saved by its own people.
 
If Putin fails I shudder to think what he'll do next.
 
If Putin fails I shudder to think what he'll do next.
I'm shuddering already. I started a thread called WW3 for a reason. We're in it, and I don't know how loyal his leadership will remain. He's lost it.
 
If Putin fails I shudder to think what he'll do next.
I am too. If Ukraine is actually doing as well as it seems there is a possibility Russia is completely embarrassed by Ukraine. Possibly even militarily defeating and pushed out to their borders. If that were to happen (or start to happen) it would be the shattering of the image of Putin as a strongman leader. Could Putin EVER agree to terms where Ukraine cedes no ground and no concessions to Russia? I don't know.
 
The Russian military is running out of time which is why Putin asked China for military aid.
 
The acid test is whether Russian military leaders are willing to use tactical nukes in Ukraine. If Putin gets desperate enough to order them, we may find out.
 
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