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Black violent crime rate 3 times that of whitess

Why is this aspirational? Why architect society around a pillar which is already dysfunctional?

Why punish women and their children simply for not being married?
 
That isn't lucky. The support you got from those around you took EFFORT.

MORE people should be giving that effort for thier loved ones/children/family I had very little in the way of financial support, but I did have involved parents who WANTED better for me even if they couldn't give financial tools to help. You evidently had it. Why don't others?

Without using excuses or justifications, why do you find it an impossible task for the black community to bring themselves up to a level of standard the rest of the country enjoys?
 
Most people would rather support their own kids than someone else’s. But if they do they’d rather it be their idea and not the government’s.

Good thing for most people that the 1% has enough money to take care of other people’s kids without it effecting their lifestyles in any way.
 
What in the wide world of sports are you talking about?

I didn't assign anything to ANY population - white, black or otherwise.

You did when you took a guess at what 'they' want by linking some white nationalistic 40 person homestead.
 
I don’t think that’s going to go over too well with a judge: “Your Honor, many, many scientists say that I brutally raped and murdered Mrs. Croaker because I’m poor.”

Absurd nonsense. The only refuge you have when the scientific evidence is against you.
 
I don’t think that’s going to go over too well with a judge: “Your Honor, many, many scientists say that I brutally raped and murdered Mrs. Croaker because I’m poor.”

Donald Trump is a 34 count convicted felon and rapist who is now running our country. It’s astounding that this dangerous criminal is still even left loose on the streets.

Why? Because he had wealthy parents and light skin tone.

Apparently, that works a lot better on judges.
 
Do you think four hundred years of economic oppression vanishes in one generation? Weird thought to have.
1, No. 3 or more, yes. I think once the opportunities equalized, the road blocks were gone (not that all racism was gone) but now there was a path forward and legal protections for the racism people cry about today (that they evidently can't prove like the OP) Affirmative action started in the 60's , that is at a minimum 2 generations (working/college age individuals, and most likely 3)
On one hand you hold onto a 400 yr term, while limiting the advances that had been made (incremental though they may be) and not much success or change has gone on. To me, that is just the excuse. Blame others for their continued plight which are largely caused by the choices they made, and continue to make.

We know the opportunities are there because immigrants that come from other poor countries come, and do well (BETTER) than those born here in most cases. Why would that be?

It's the history of hand holding/excusing, and attempts to blame others for those choices.

It's not going to change until they stand up and make those choices that will benefit them. Being educated isn't 'acting white' , it's being smart and making good choices.
 
no---there are reasons for the lopsided stats between races in America that go FAR beyond the simplicity/convenience of your thinking. In fact your way of thinking in this matter is grossly irresponsible (and lazy).....
Talk about lazy.

Just stay up there in your ignorance tower.
You make zero argument other than nuh uh. What 'reasons'?
 
They don't want to not be around minorities.

They want to not be around the things that are common amongst those minorities.

It isn't the color of skin that is the issue, it's the behaviors.
 
You did when you took a guess at what 'they' want by linking some white nationalistic 40 person homestead.

Wrong.

I was very obviously talking about a specific poster here, if you'd bothered to actually follow the conversation. I made absolutely no reference to "they".
 
Or "democrats want to defund the police."?
Assigning that to all Democrats was a similar charge, sure. It's akin to stereotypes, true in some cases and stretched to cover all. Any argument can stretched that way. Racism. Blacks committing crimes. etc

Do you expect differently when political parties are talking about the other political party? We aren't the party, we are all individuals here discussing things. I'm a conservative (read: not Republican) when it comes to economics, I am fairly socially liberal (read: Not Democrat)

You bring up something that has been known for awhile though, in a world of soundbytes, stupidity, and very short attention spans, we don't get much context in reporting. The onus is on the reader to go search out the truth. I find that terrible but I don't see it changing soon.

In this thread it is about the rate at which the black community commits violent crime, and why it is out of whack. All blacks hasn't been used specifically because we have a RATE to discuss.
 
What is the cause, conservatives?

Why do you think this is? Can you give an answer that isn’t racist or doesn't dance around the actual cause?
Self inflicted. Black culture does it to themselves.
 
If it were possible for black Americans to bring themselves up to the same standards as the rest of the country, don't you think they would have done it by now?
 
They don't want to not be around minorities.

They want to not be around the things that are common amongst those minorities.

It isn't the color of skin that is the issue, it's the behaviors.

It’s both.
 
Why punish women and their children simply for not being married?

Sorry, but “not architecting society around an objectively dysfunctional social structure” is not “punishing women and their children for not being married”.

Do I think people in these situations should be able to live? Of course. Do I think we should incentivize it, or create an aspirational social class out of it? Absolutely not.
 
They don't want to not be around minorities.

They want to not be around the things that are common amongst those minorities.

It isn't the color of skin that is the issue, it's the behaviors.

"There are lazy and unwise and harmful individuals of African ancestry. There are lazy and unwise and harmful individuals of European ancestry. There are industrious and wise and harmless individuals of European ancestry. There are industrious and wise and harmless individuals of African ancestry. But no racial group has ever had a monopoly on any type of human trait or gene—not now, not ever.” ― Ibram X. Kendi, Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America
 
If it were possible for black Americans to bring themselves up to the same standards as the rest of the country, don't you think they would have done it by now?
They have all the opportunity. But choose not to. I've seen it first hand too many times.
 

So you believe they should live, but because you don’t approve of their lifestyle, you don’t believe their living conditions should be very good so they aren’t “incentivized”?
 
Poverty. Every study on criminality confirms that poverty is a most defining characteristic of criminality.
Poverty is a symptom. Again self inflicted. Other minorities don't seem to have this problem.

Where's the Mexican on Mexican crime? Ethiopian on Ethiopian crime? Somali on Somali etc etc.
 
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