Black students ordered to give up seats to whites (1 Viewer)

[hipsterdufus]

It feels like we're going backwards here when it comes to race relations.

It's like the 1950's again:
Macaca
Pat Buchanon is all over the 24/7 cable shows spouting racial hatred
A GOP candidate saying black people can't swim
Rush Limpdick stereotyping all the races on this year's Survivor show
A Georgraphy teacher forced to take down non US flags in the classroom
Muslim profiling (How do you do that?)
Gay bashing
Immigrant bashing

Black students ordered to give up seats to whites
Status of Red River Parish bus driver is unknown
August 24, 2006

COUSHATTA -- Nine black children attending Red River Elementary School were directed last week to the back of the school bus by a white driver who designated the front seats for white children.

The situation has outraged relatives of the black children who have filed a complaint with school officials.

Superintendent Kay Easley will meet with the family members in her office this morning.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People also is considering filing a formal charge with the U.S. Department of Justice. NAACP District Vice President James Panell, of Shreveport, said he would apprise Justice attorneys of the situation this week. He's considering asking for an investigation into the bus incident and other aspects of the school system's operations, including pupil-teacher ratio as it relates to the numbers of white and black children, along with a breakdown of the numbers of black and white teachers employed.

"If the smoke is there, then there's probably fire somewhere else," Panell said in a phone interview from New Orleans. "At this point, it is extremely alarming. We fought that battle 50 years ago, and we won. Why is this happening again?"

Easley would not comment much on the allegations Wednesday, saying it is a personnel issue. She acknowledged that she has investigated the claim. And she confirmed that the bus driver did not run her route Wednesday, nor would she today.

Asked if the driver would work for the rest of the year, Easley said, "I'm not going to answer the questions. "» You're getting all that you're going to get from me. I'm sorry."

Red River Elementary School Principal Jamie Lawrence tried to rectify the seating situation when it was brought to her attention. But it was ultimately handled at the Central Office, Patricia Sessoms said.

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After Richmond and Williams filed complaints with the School Board, Transportation Supervisor Jerry Carlisle asked Davis to make seat assignments for her passengers, Sessoms said.

"But she still assigned the black children to the back of the bus," she added.

And the nine children had to share only two seats, meaning the older children had to hold the younger ones in their laps.

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060824/NEWS01/608240332/1002/NEWS

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

hipsterdufus,


Sounds like an isolated incident. But it doesn't heart to check it out. Said that people still feel this way.

"Pat Buchanan is all over the 24/7 cable shows spouting racial hatred"

I've seen him. I don't think he is spouting racial hatred.

"Rush Limpdick stereotyping all the races on this year's Survivor show"

That silly show was begging for this. Hell I would have done the same thing. :roll:

 

[southern_liberal]

hipsterdufus,


Sounds like an isolated incident. But it doesn't heart to check it out. Said that people still feel this way.

QUOTE]

That is such a naive statement. A statement that reveals one of three things:

-You've never dealt with black people on any meaningful level, therefore you are ignorant to the racism pervasive in our society.

- You do not know how subtle racism is now because a racist person could potentially find themselves in a world of trouble because minorities aren't having it anymore

or

-You got it so good you don't have to care about what's going on around you.

As a black man, I see subtle racism everyday, especially at my job where a lot of people come from the most remote part of the county and beyond. I get so now I laugh at them. They had no exposure, they only know what they see on t.v. and assume that is what all black men are like, simply because they stayed inside there cocoon all their lives. Some of them live inside the Charlotte metro area and come and ask me how to get downtown!! No exposure beyond their limited confines, and I'm thinking that's why you would think this is an isolated incident.

The woman who sent those kinds to the back of that bus obviously flunked history or thought in her area, she could get away with it, and if that's the case, this definitely is not an isolated incident in her area.

 

[TheNextEra]

Sounds like an isolated incident.

That is such a naive statement. A statement that reveals one of three things:

-You've never dealt with black people on any meaningful level, therefore you are ignorant to the racism pervasive in our society.

- You do not know how subtle racism is now because a racist person could potentially find themselves in a world of trouble because minorities aren't having it anymore

or

-You got it so good you don't have to care about what's going on around you.

ACtually I think Ivan has it right. It really is an isolated incident. I mean this is a BLATENT racial discrimination and for this bus driver to do it like this only proves that he is really dumb if this is what happened.

I mean Southern Liberal, how many instances in 2006 do you know of that have bus drivers putting black people to the end of the bus. Yes, this is an isolated incident IMO. That doesn't mean that it isn't serisou, just isolated IMO.

 

[TurtleDude]

hipsterdufus,


Sounds like an isolated incident. But it doesn't heart to check it out. Said that people still feel this way.

QUOTE]

That is such a naive statement. A statement that reveals one of three things:

-You've never dealt with black people on any meaningful level, therefore you are ignorant to the racism pervasive in our society.

- You do not know how subtle racism is now because a racist person could potentially find themselves in a world of trouble because minorities aren't having it anymore

or

-You got it so good you don't have to care about what's going on around you.

As a black man, I see subtle racism everyday, especially at my job where a lot of people come from the most remote part of the county and beyond. I get so now I laugh at them. They had no exposure, they only know what they see on t.v. and assume that is what all black men are like, simply because they stayed inside there cocoon all their lives. Some of them live inside the Charlotte metro area and come and ask me how to get downtown!! No exposure beyond their limited confines, and I'm thinking that's why you would think this is an isolated incident.

The woman who sent those kinds to the back of that bus obviously flunked history or thought in her area, she could get away with it, and if that's the case, this definitely is not an isolated incident in her area.

I am an attorney-I deal with Title VII (civil rights) matters 80% of my time. I have seen as much anti white racism from blacks as anti black racism from whites. I also know that black leaders can get away with far more racist comments than white politicians can. Your psychobabbling about Ivan's beliefs is juvenile. stop pretending you know what is in his mind or heart

 

[Unfair]

the more things change, the more they stay the same. white people are still the same way they were 50 years ago. this incident proves it.

 

[Synch]

This isolated incident will be duly resolved, while far greater problems concerning perpetrations of racism in policy are supported by the very same people who claim to champion the anti-racism cause.

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[nogoodname]

The fact is that none of most of u arnt a minority and dont know how people discriminate.

 

[RightOfCenter]

hipsterdufus,


Sounds like an isolated incident. But it doesn't heart to check it out. Said that people still feel this way.

QUOTE]

That is such a naive statement. A statement that reveals one of three things:

-You've never dealt with black people on any meaningful level, therefore you are ignorant to the racism pervasive in our society.

- You do not know how subtle racism is now because a racist person could potentially find themselves in a world of trouble because minorities aren't having it anymore

or

-You got it so good you don't have to care about what's going on around you.

As a black man, I see subtle racism everyday, especially at my job where a lot of people come from the most remote part of the county and beyond. I get so now I laugh at them. They had no exposure, they only know what they see on t.v. and assume that is what all black men are like, simply because they stayed inside there cocoon all their lives. Some of them live inside the Charlotte metro area and come and ask me how to get downtown!! No exposure beyond their limited confines, and I'm thinking that's why you would think this is an isolated incident.

The woman who sent those kinds to the back of that bus obviously flunked history or thought in her area, she could get away with it, and if that's the case, this definitely is not an isolated incident in her area.

Well if a white kid grows up in a rural community without ever meeting a black person, and the only exposure they get to black culture is on MTV showing gangster rap videos glorifying the exploitation of women, drug dealing, drive by shootings, and a criminal lifestyle, what do you want them to think? Children are taught by television more than anything, hell most of what I know about the military I learned from TV. The bottom line is, if popular black culture shows things like this what else are children and the adults they grow into supposed to think?

 

[Sir_Alec]

The fact is that none of most of u arnt a minority and dont know how people discriminate.

I can guess from your grammer you are a minority from another country. I have faced some levels of deiscrimination because of certain things, but not my skin color. So, you're right that a lot of us do not know what it is like to be racially discriminated against. But a lot of us understand discrimination far more than you give us credit.

Also, you do realise that Ivan The Terrible is black right?

 

[Sir_Alec]

Well if a white kid grows up in a rural community without ever meeting a black person, and the only exposure they get to black culture is on MTV showing gangster rap videos glorifying the exploitation of women, drug dealing, drive by shootings, and a criminal lifestyle, what do you want them to think? Children are taught by television more than anything, hell most of what I know about the military I learned from TV. The bottom line is, if popular black culture shows things like this what else are children and the adults they grow into supposed to think?

So you are putting the blame of racism on television? WHAT? Yes, TV pushes the ideas of violent rap music and ganters onto our laps, but it is up to all of us to make a difference and make nothing of it. Parents need to tell their children what this stuff means and why it does not represent black culture as a whole. Saying its all black television and music's fault is directing the blame away from ourselves. Sure, rap music and television are partly to blame but they aren't the only ones doing it.

And anyone who takes all that gangster **** seriously needs to be labotomized.

 

[RightOfCenter]

So you are putting the blame of racism on television? WHAT? Yes, TV pushes the ideas of violent rap music and ganters onto our laps, but it is up to all of us to make a difference and make nothing of it. Parents need to tell their children what this stuff means and why it does not represent black culture as a whole. Saying its all black television and music's fault is directing the blame away from ourselves. Sure, rap music and television are partly to blame but they aren't the only ones doing it.

And anyone who takes all that gangster **** seriously needs to be labotomized.

Yeah, let's labotomize all the preteen children in the world who don't know any better. Their parents can tell them, "It's bad to be racist" but if they've never met a black person and the only ones they've ever seen are on TV playing sports or singing about killing people or being a pimp what the hell are they supposed to think? Children are going to believe what they see on TV more than they will believe what their parents tell them. Is it ignorant to be racist? Yes. But if its an ignorance born of not knowing many minorities what the hell can we do about it?

 

[Sir_Alec]

Yeah, let's labotomize all the preteen children in the world who don't know any better. Their parents can tell them, "It's bad to be racist" but if they've never met a black person and the only ones they've ever seen are on TV playing sports or singing about killing people or being a pimp what the hell are they supposed to think? Children are going to believe what they see on TV more than they will believe what their parents tell them. Is it ignorant to be racist? Yes. But if its an ignorance born of not knowing many minorities what the hell can we do about it?

I don't think you understand my point. I'm saying tell the kids everything: "Normal black people aren't like this. This is not sane. Don't think all black people are like this". I'm sure they will listen to that. If they don't, turn the TV off. If they turn it back on, yell at them. If they yell back, make them do house work. If they refuse, carry them outside and tell them to get a job. If they push you away as you pick them up, slap them. If they cry, tell them they deserve it.

It always worked on me. :rofl ...

 

[TheNextEra]

the more things change, the more they stay the same. white people are still the same way they were 50 years ago. this incident proves it.

I would include the following statement correction. SOME white people are still the same way they were 50 years ago. The rest of us moved forward.

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

Originally Posted by southern_liberal

That is such a naive statement. A statement that reveals one of three things:

-You've never dealt with black people on any meaningful level, therefore you are ignorant to the racism pervasive in our society.

- You do not know how subtle racism is now because a racist person could potentially find themselves in a world of trouble because minorities aren't having it anymore

or

-You got it so good you don't have to care about what's going on around you.

As a black man, I see subtle racism everyday, especially at my job where a lot of people come from the most remote part of the county and beyond. I get so now I laugh at them. They had no exposure, they only know what they see on t.v. and assume that is what all black men are like, simply because they stayed inside there cocoon all their lives. Some of them live inside the Charlotte metro area and come and ask me how to get downtown!! No exposure beyond their limited confines, and I'm thinking that's why you would think this is an isolated incident.

The woman who sent those kinds to the back of that bus obviously flunked history or thought in her area, she could get away with it, and if that's the case, this definitely is not an isolated incident in her area.

You just crack me up. As many on this site have already said I am black! :rofl

As a black man, I see subtle racism everyday, especially at my job where a lot of people come from the most remote part of the county and beyond. I get so now I laugh at them. They had no exposure, they only know what they see on t.v. and assume that is what all black men are like, simply because they stayed inside there cocoon all their lives. Some of them live inside the Charlotte metro area and come and ask me how to get downtown

I know what you are talking about. But come on you do the same thing. You thought I was white so you called me a racist. You talk as if you know me. And now you look silly. You have a lot to learn about the world.

 

[mpg]

the more things change, the more they stay the same. white people are still the same way they were 50 years ago.

this incident proves it.

If this kind of thing is common, then you're right. If this is an isolated incident, then you're wrong.

This incident proves nothing.