Birther roll call

[spud_meister]

And what do we have now?

A person born with dual citizenship, British and American. (assuming he was born in Hawaii)

BTW…. It was to keep foreign influence out of the government, not just British.

does he currently have dual citizenship?

 

[Your Star]

And what do we have now?

A person born with dual citizenship, British and American. (assuming he was born in Hawaii)

BTW…. It was to keep foreign influence out of the government, not just British.

Really? You're not satisfied with the birth certificate he has that looks just like everyone else's?

 

[Redress]

Really? You're not satisfied with the birth certificate he has that looks just like everyone else's?

His theory is not built around the birth certificate(unless it all of a sudden looks like it may work, then he will jump on that bandwagon again), since the birth certificate angle is clearly lost. He has found a whole new insane theory to latch onto.

 

[Tucker Case]

His theory is not built around the birth certificate(unless it all of a sudden looks like it may work, then he will jump on that bandwagon again), since the birth certificate angle is clearly lost. He has found a whole new insane theory to latch onto.

Actually, Crunch has been arguing the Dual citizenship angle since he first showed up here. I know because I debated him on the topic when he first got here. And being a dual citizen myself, I have a tendency to remember arguments that indicate that I am not as qualified for president as say someone who is exactly like me in every way, but wasn't the child of an immigrant.

 

[Your Star]

His theory is not built around the birth certificate(unless it all of a sudden looks like it may work, then he will jump on that bandwagon again), since the birth certificate angle is clearly lost. He has found a whole new insane theory to latch onto.

Oh, the whole dual citizenship thing. Yeah, I know, I think its just hilarious that people think he wasn't born in Hawaii. Of course this whole theory is both funny, and sad at the same time.

 

[peepnklown]

Well, let’s go this pathway. Let’s define Natural Born Citizen (of course please support this with references, etc) and see if the real hilarious elements comes into view.

 

[TennesseeRain]

Well, let’s go this pathway. Let’s define Natural Born Citizen (of course please support this with references, etc) and see if the real hilarious elements comes into view.

Why? The horse isn't dead enough for you?

 

[Redress]

Well, let’s go this pathway. Let’s define Natural Born Citizen (of course please support this with references, etc) and see if the real hilarious elements comes into view.

I am not arguing Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen. Since he won the election, to define him as other than, some one has to present to the courts a compelling argument, which has not happened yet. In other words, since Obama is the president, the burden of proof is on the nuts trying to claim he cannot be president.

Of course, since all the judges are in on the conspiracy, the nuts have no chance and the good guys win...YAY!

 

[Crunch]

does he currently have dual citizenship?

Does the phrase "Natural Born Citizen" ring a bell?

 

[Gabriel]

LMAO... uhh the extreme right wing on this board never fails to amaze me... who in gods name would admit to that? This message board is infected with hard core right wing wackos.

 

[Rightwingnutjob]

LMAO... uhh the extreme right wing on this board never fails to amaze me... who in gods name would admit to that? This message board is infected with hard core right wing wackos.

Says the hard core left wing loony. (No, not all lefties are loony, just you)

 

[Your Star]

Does the phrase "Natural Born Citizen" ring a bell?

And that's what Obama is :nahnah:

 

[Redress]

Does the phrase "Natural Born Citizen" ring a bell?

Does the phrase "get the courts to actually agree with you instead of laughing the cases out of court" sound familiar?

 

[earthworm]

Exactly what is a "birther"?.
A man so dead set against our President that he would grasp at straws, even lie thru his teeth ??
A man who , at one time, may have questioned his certificate, but is not against our President??

 

[earthworm]

Says the hard core left wing loony. (No, not all lefties are loony, just you)

Like it or not, there are wackos/loonies on this board. But who is man enough to admit to it???
After all, this is only my opinion..

 

[Gabriel]

Says the hard core left wing loony. (No, not all lefties are loony, just you)

Umm ok.. I can see why you would take my comment personally given your forum name. I don't think I have made any ridiculous suggestion such as the president not deserving the job.. because of a fake wacko extreme right wing flaky argument that is actually only supposed to have wacko right wing support it. Anyone that claims they are libertarian can be viewed as being extremist like it or not. Libertarians account for the Tea Party wacko groups.

 

[earthworm]

Umm ok.. I can see why you would take my comment personally given your forum name. I don't think I have made any ridiculous suggestion such as the president not deserving the job.. because of a fake wacko extreme right wing flaky argument that is actually only supposed to have wacko right wing support it. Anyone that claims they are libertarian can be viewed as being extremist like it or not. Libertarians account for the Tea Party wacko groups.

I'd think that the Democrats would want the "tea bag party" to be as strong and united as possible in order to syphon off 10-20% of the votes from the Republicians. I'd guess that 5 to 10% of the baggers are Democrats..I know, this is risky...

 

[Gabriel]

I'd think that the Democrats would want the "tea bag party" to be as strong and united as possible in order to syphon off 10-20% of the votes from the Republicians. I'd guess that 5 to 10% of the baggers are Democrats..I know, this is risky...

They won't syphon off any votes. Any Tea Party elected will just pull republican party line.

 

[Rightwingnutjob]

Anyone that claims they are libertarian can be viewed as being extremist like it or not. Libertarians account for the Tea Party wacko groups.

There you go again with your 'extremist' "left wing looniness".

What does 'other' mean any way? What do consider your real lean?

 

[Gabriel]

There you go again with your 'extremist' "left wing looniness".

What does 'other' mean any way? What do consider your real lean?

I am centrist. I see libertarianism as a move away from pragmatism. Sometimes it would be ok to support libertarian policy and sometimes not.. Currently I believe it is not appropriate since the poor state America is in currently has ideologically been driven both bi partisan and socially. Americans have to stop worrying about the bogyman the government represents to libertarians. Now if America was socialist.. I'd be screaming for less government etc.. but I would never ever go so far as to believe that a pure libertarian model is good or right. Libertarian fiscal policy has caused a lot of trouble. My political stance depends on time and place and trying to be pragmatic.

 

[Crunch]

And that's what Obama is :nahnah:

LOL....... like you would have the first clue.

 

[Rightwingnutjob]

I am centrist. I see libertarianism as a move away from pragmatism. Sometimes it would be ok to support libertarian policy and sometimes not.. Currently I believe it is not appropriate since the poor state America is in currently has ideologically been driven both bi partisan and socially. Americans have to stop worrying about the bogyman the government represents to libertarians. Now if America was socialist.. I'd be screaming for less government etc.. but I would never ever go so far as to believe that a pure libertarian model is good or right. Libertarian fiscal policy has caused a lot of trouble. My political stance depends on time and place and trying to be pragmatic.

So you're a noodle?

Libertarianism isn't fiscal policy. It is a fundamental belief in everyone's rights to LIFE, LIBERTY, and PROPERTY so long as it doesn't infringe on another's.

 

[Gabriel]

So you're a noodle?

Libertarianism isn't fiscal policy. It is a fundamental belief in everyone's rights to LIFE, LIBERTY, and PROPERTY so long as it doesn't infringe on another's.

Uhh.. I'm sorry I mistook you from someone who might have a clue about their political leanings other then a small variety of fuzzy ideas.

 

[Rightwingnutjob]

Uhh.. I'm sorry I mistook you from someone who might have a clue about their political leanings other then a small variety of fuzzy ideas.

Clue me in to what you think are wrong with my 'fuzzy' ideas.

 

[Gabriel]

Clue me in to what you think are wrong with my 'fuzzy' ideas.

Why should I? Your the one who explained that his political beliefs are summed up by three words.