Bipartisan Senate report describes 2016 Trump campaign eager to accept help from foreign power

[Athanasius68]

Because he was talking with the russians? It's all in the Senate and Mueller report.

He needed Credico to talk to Wikileaks.

 

[Conservative]

Why do you continue to use 2008 as your starting point and then 2016 as your end point? Barack Obama became president Jan 21, 2009. Fiscal years, which is the standard used by the BEA begin on October 1st.

Then for some reason you are ignoring 2020 data:

Personal income dropped but personal spending went up - not a good indicator for future well-being.

Very simple, that is when the recession started and that is the target Obama was hired to hit, not the numbers the Democratic Congress generated for him and still didn't make him look good.

How do you explain 146 million employed when the recession started and 9 years later 152 million employed calling that a success? A returning job isn't a new taxpayer and it is taxpayers that the gov't needs for revenue

Do you know what Congress does? Democrats controlled the entire Congress from January 2007 to January 2011 and they gave Obama NO 2009 budget, TARP, and a stimulus program almost day one after taking office. That 842 billion dollar stimulus program saw employment drop from 142 billion in January 2009, to 138 billion January 2010, 139 million in January 2011 never getting back to 146 million until Mid 2014

Why do you keep focused on the Pandemic results and not the economic policies per pandemic? What exactly did you expect to happen with a shutdown economy to slow the spread of the virus? Isn't that what you radicals are wanting, the virus to stop spreading? Not surprising that all you really want is bad economic news to blame Trump.

 

[Conservative]

“Just judge the president on the facts. Five million Americans infected by COVID-19. More than 170,000 Americans have died. By far, the worst performance of any nation on earth,” Biden said on Thursday night. “More than 50 million people have filed for unemployment this year. More than 10 million people are going to lose their health insurance this year. Nearly 1 in 6 businesses have closed this year.”

So many lies exposed about the current administration.

So let me know the last time you saw the President in your hometown or state enforcing CDC recommendations? I asked you to point me in the direction of you proving me wrong and what you have offered is partisan liberal talking points. Are you telling me you didn't support shutting down the economy to stop the spread of the virus? what did you expect the unemployment and GDP to be with a shutdown economy? Why can't you just simply admit you wanted something to blame Trump for?

You believe Biden rhetoric? Why? Simple isn't, because that is what you want to believe as you totally ignore context. Biden is going to give you exactly what you want and if he doesn't do it, Harris will, the nanny state and removal of personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution, due process included. I hope you are able to survive the next 4 years of Trump, hatred is a terrible thing to have as it blinds you to the reality of who Biden/Harris really are

 

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So let me know the last time you saw the President in your hometown or state enforcing CDC recommendations? I asked you to point me in the direction of you proving me wrong and what you have offered is partisan liberal talking points. Are you telling me you didn't support shutting down the economy to stop the spread of the virus? what did you expect the unemployment and GDP to be with a shutdown economy? Why can't you just simply admit you wanted something to blame Trump for?

You believe Biden rhetoric? Why? Simple isn't, because that is what you want to believe as you totally ignore context. Biden is going to give you exactly what you want and if he doesn't do it, Harris will, the nanny state and removal of personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution, due process included. I hope you are able to survive the next 4 years of Trump, hatred is a terrible thing to have as it blinds you to the reality of who Biden/Harris really are

Context? :lamo Personal freedoms? :lamo

What the president has given us is a collapsing economy, massive unemployment, the loss of health insurance for millions in the coming months and over 172,000 dead citizens. Thanks Trump.

I have already demonstrated that the economy has been successfully restarted in countries, and even states in this country that do not follow the book of Trump on pandemic control. What this administration has done is to murder citizens and still manage to crush the economy. lose lose.

Don't post at me about liberal talking points till you have examined conservative (fake conservatives) doing points.

So many lies exposed.

 

[Conservative]

Context? :lamo Personal freedoms? :lamo

What the president has given us is a collapsing economy, massive unemployment, the loss of health insurance for millions in the coming months and over 172,000 dead citizens. Thanks Trump.

I have already demonstrated that the economy has been successfully restarted in countries, and even states in this country that do not follow the book of Trump on pandemic control. What this administration has done is to murder citizens and still manage to crush the economy. lose lose.

Don't post at me about liberal talking points till you have examined conservative (fake conservatives) doing points.

So many lies exposed.

No, the pandemic gave us the economic results not Trump but noticed you refused to answer the direct question as usual. this is a debate forum and you aren't very good at it.

Aren't you supporting the shutdown of businesses to stop the spread of the virus? What did you expect the economic results to be with a shutdown economy

No, you haven't proven that other countries economy has started and is doing better than ours. You focus solely on liberal talking points and allow the left to use you as a political pawn

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Years: 2008 to 2019

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 146378 146156 146086 146132 145908 145737 145532 145203 145076 144802 144100 143369
2009 142152 141640 140707 140656 140248 140009 139901 139492 138818 138432 138659 138013
2010 138438 138581 138751 139297 139241 139141 139179 139438 139396 139119 139044 139301
2011 139250 139394 139639 139586 139624 139384 139524 139942 140183 140368 140826 140902
2012 141584 141858 142036 141899 142206 142391 142292 142291 143044 143431 143333 143330
2013 143292 143362 143316 143635 143882 143999 144264 144326 144418 143537 144479 144778
2014 145150 145134 145648 145667 145825 146247 146399 146530 146778 147427 147404 147615 1.9
2015 148150 148053 148122 148491 148802 148765 148815 149175 148853 149270 149506 150164
2016 150622 150934 151146 150963 151074 151104 151450 151766 151877 151949 152150 152276
2017 152128 152417 152958 153150 152920 153176 153456 153591 154399 153847 153945 154065
2018 154482 155213 155160 155216 155539 155592 155964 155604 156069 156582 156803 156945
2019 156694 156949 156748 156645 156758 157005 157288 157878 158269 158510 158593 158803
2020 158700 158759 155772 133403 137242 142182 143532

Looks like the economy is recovering to me as over 10 million jobs have returned since March and the best is yet to come. The only one lying here are leftists who want to divert from their own failures

 

[Plasmaball]

He needed Credico to talk to Wikileaks.

Timeline: Roger Stone and His Interactions with Wikileaks, Russians, and More - Just Security
Your wrong. We are done here.

 

[Plasmaball]

Context? :lamo Personal freedoms? :lamo

What the president has given us is a collapsing economy, massive unemployment, the loss of health insurance for millions in the coming months and over 172,000 dead citizens. Thanks Trump.

I have already demonstrated that the economy has been successfully restarted in countries, and even states in this country that do not follow the book of Trump on pandemic control. What this administration has done is to murder citizens and still manage to crush the economy. lose lose.

Don't post at me about liberal talking points till you have examined conservative (fake conservatives) doing points.

So many lies exposed.

You need to stop falling for conservatives game. Every thread he tries to make it about the economy in order to veer the op off course.

 

[Athanasius68]

Timeline: Roger Stone and His Interactions with Wikileaks, Russians, and More - Just Security
Your wrong. We are done here.

The actual indictment is better.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1U4ypzlHbq12uHbK7Unocn

 

[99percenter]

Right love the Obama trajectory which of course the electorate saw as well giving the House to Republicans in 10-12-14-16 and the Senate to Republicans in 14 and 16 along with the WH in 16. Seems you have a real disconnect with reality

LOL. So did trump give us a dem house in 18 and 20 and a dem president in 20?

 

[NWRatCon]

LOL. So did trump give us a dem house in 18 and 20 and a dem president in 20?

You're making an unsubstantiated assumption, my friend, that a conservative post has any correlation between assertion and reality, much less causation. Logic has no bearing; partisan spin is all that is relevant.