- Sep 23, 2005
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Both Clinton proposals. AFAIK the TAIS was defeated thanks to conservative and libertarian objections. Echelon is/was a needed program.TimmyBoy said:
They were never totally secret.If its highly secretive, how come everybody knows about it now?
Isn't that the program that would have require banks to report to the government all transactions over $10,000 so that the IRS and other agencies could "make sure we all comply"?oldreliable67 said:They were never totally secret.
The "Total Information Awareness" program, or as it was later known, "Terrorism Information Awareness" program was supposedly killed by Congress when Congress cut off funding due to concerns about the extensive data-mining capabilities (and consequent civil liberty implications of misuse of same) envisioned by DARPA, under whose auspices the program was to be developed.
TIA intent, DARPA said, was to "protect citizens by detecting and defeating foreign terrorist threats before an attack." Sounds a bit like the language Bush used when describing the NSA surveillance program the other day, doesn't it? Hence, the suspicion in some circles that some aspect of TIA has lived on or been resurrected for the current surveillance program.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation continues to maintain info on its website, here.
Nope. The $10,000 reporting requirement, or Currency Transaction Report (CTR) is a part of the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) database. Its original purpose was to help in combating money laundering, mainly by drug dealers, though it is now used to help track money flows to and from organizations identified or suspected of being terrorist affiliated. It is also used by casinos.Stinger said:Isn't that the program that would have require banks to report to the government all transactions over $10,000 so that the IRS and other agencies could "make sure we all comply"?
Nope, it was the "Know Your Customer" scheme that I was thinking of, it dawned on my after I hit the send button. It would have turned every bank into a arm of Clinton's Big Brother scheme requiring them to report "suspiscious activity.Nope.