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New Report Finds ‘War on Terror’ Has Forced 37 Million People to Flee Their Homes - Foundation for Economic Education

“...For the past 14 years, the American Colossus has been on a Godzilla-like rampage, trampling over the Middle East, North Africa, and South Asia: squashing people, flattening homes, and demolishing communities,” Dan Sanchez wrote in summation of this pattern in 2015. “Now its specialty is not offering refuge, but making refugees. Not welcoming huddled masses, but mass-producing them. The Iraq War displaced millions. The chaos it engendered, including the rise of ISIS (which didn’t even exist before the war) displaced millions more.”

And it’s important to note that despite these enormous costs and consequences, the US’s military interventions have largely failed to achieve the intended results. In many cases, we’ve actually made things much worse.

For example, the US originally intervened in Afghanistan in 2001 to punish the Taliban for harboring the terrorists who planned the 9/11 attacks. This justified goal was accomplished within a few years. The decade and a half since of US investment and American lives have been spent on a failed regime change experiment trying to prop up an Afghanistan government that would, all these years later, still collapse in short order without US backing.

In Iraq, the terrorist group ISIS only emerged as a result of the chaos, instability, and ensuing power vacuum the US created with its sweeping intervention.

And in Libya, perhaps the most glaring example, the US launched a military intervention to depose the regime of dictator Muammar el-Qaddafi, hoping to start a new era for the country. Instead we turned it into a literal failed state.

Defenders of the status quo are left with the impossible mission of justifying vast destruction, death, and displacement, with only a litany of failures to show for it.

“The displacement and other suffering must be central to any analysis of the post-9/11 wars and to any conceivable consideration of the future use of military force by the United States or any other country,” the Brown University report concluded. “The legitimacy and efficacy of war should be questioned more than ever given nearly two decades of disastrous outcomes.”
 

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...republicrats.... ugh...

The US War on Terror Has Created as Many as 59 Million Refugees

"...In addition to the tens of millions displaced by U.S. military actions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, the Philippines, Libya, and Syria, the report notes that millions more have been displaced by “smaller combat operations, including in: Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mali, Niger, Saudi Arabia, and Tunisia.”

“To put these figures in perspective, displacing 37 million people is equivalent to removing nearly all the residents of the state of California or all the people in Texas and Virginia combined,” the report says. “The figure is almost as large as the population of Canada. In historical terms, 37 million displaced is more than those displaced by any other war or disaster since at least the start of the 20th century with the sole exception of World War II.”

David Vine, professor of anthropology at American University and the lead author of the new report, told the New York Times that the findings show “U.S. involvement in these countries has been horrifically catastrophic, horrifically damaging in ways that I don’t think that most people in the United States, in many ways myself included, have grappled with or reckoned with in even the slightest terms.”

Matt Duss, foreign policy adviser to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), demanded such a reckoning in a tweet responding to the Costs of War Project’s latest findings.

“The scale of the disaster the United States has inflicted on the world — through three war on terror presidencies — is staggering,” wrote Duss. “We need a reckoning. We can’t simply move on.”
 

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You want the next war we are in to be in Syria?

Vote for Biden - Harris, the war monger team.
 

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You want the next war we are in to be in Syria?

Vote for Biden - Harris, the war monger team.

...only a trifling quibbler could find much difference between either of the stinking republicrat warmongers...

Foreign Interventionism, 9/11, and the Perpetual War on Terrorism – The Future of Freedom Foundation

"...No, the terrorists didn’t attack us because they hated our “freedom and values,” as U.S. officials and American interventionists claimed after the attacks. Instead, the attacks occurred in retaliation for what the U.S. national-security establishment, specifically the Pentagon and the CIA, had been doing to people in the Middle East prior to the 9/11 attacks.

Recall the Persian Gulf War in 1991, when the U.S. government intervened in a conflict involving their old partner and ally, Saddam Hussein, the dictator of Iraq. Iraq had gotten in a territorial dispute with Kuwait, which ended up with Iraq invading Kuwait.

U.S. officials felt that they could not let Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait to stand, which is somewhat strange given that the U.S. government supported Iraq when it invaded Iran in the 1980s. Without the congressional declaration of war the Constitution requires, the U.S. government went to war against Iraq, killing multitudes of Iraqi people in the process and wreaking untold destruction across the country.

During the conflict, the Pentagon ordered the destruction of Iraq’s water-and-sewage treatment plants, after a study revealed that such destruction would help spread infectious illnesses within the Iraqi populace.

Then once hostilities were ended, the U.S. and UN enforced one of the most brutal systems of sanctions in history against the Iraqi people, which proceeded to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children, especially since the sanctions prevented those destroyed water and sewage treatment plants from being repaired. The U.S. government’s ambassador to the UN, Madeleine Albright, declared that the deaths of half-a-million Iraqi children were “worth it.”

There was also the Pentagon’s intentional stationing of U.S. troops near Islamic holy lands, knowing full well the effect that such an action would have on Muslims.

There was also the brutal “no-fly zones” over Iraq, which enabled the U.S. planes to wreak even more death and destruction in Iraq.

There was also the unconditional support given by U.S. officials to the Israeli government.

The rage that all that interventionism produced within people in the Middle East is what brought on the 9/11 attacks. It also brought on the anti-American terrorism that preceded 9/11 attacks: the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, the attack on the USS Cole, and the attacks on U.S. embassies in East Africa.

Unfortunately, rather than acknowledge what their pre-9/11 interventionism produced, the Pentagon and the CIA doubled down and used the 9/11 attacks to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. Those interventions were followed by interventions in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and elsewhere.

All that new interventionism added fuel to the pre-9/11 rage, which produced more anti-American terrorism, which then caused the Pentagon and the CIA to react even more forcefully against the terrorism.

That’s how we have ended up with an endless supply of terrorists, an perpetual war on terrorism, and the destruction of liberty and prosperity here at home, all of which, of course, has kept the Pentagon, the CIA, and the NSA in high cotton in terms of both money and power. It’s quite possibly the biggest racket in U.S. history.
 

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...only a trifling quibbler could find much difference between either of the stinking republicrat warmongers...

Foreign Interventionism, 9/11, and the Perpetual War on Terrorism – The Future of Freedom Foundation

"...No, the terrorists didn’t attack us because they hated our “freedom and values,” as U.S. officials and American interventionists claimed after the attacks. Instead, the attacks occurred in retaliation for what the U.S. national-security establishment, specifically the Pentagon and the CIA, had been doing to people in the Middle East prior to the 9/11 attacks.

Recall the Persian Gulf War in 1991, when the U.S. government intervened in a conflict involving their old partner and ally, Saddam Hussein, the dictator of Iraq. Iraq had gotten in a territorial dispute with Kuwait, which ended up with Iraq invading Kuwait.

U.S. officials felt that they could not let Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait to stand, which is somewhat strange given that the U.S. government supported Iraq when it invaded Iran in the 1980s. Without the congressional declaration of war the Constitution requires, the U.S. government went to war against Iraq, killing multitudes of Iraqi people in the process and wreaking untold destruction across the country.

During the conflict, the Pentagon ordered the destruction of Iraq’s water-and-sewage treatment plants, after a study revealed that such destruction would help spread infectious illnesses within the Iraqi populace.

Then once hostilities were ended, the U.S. and UN enforced one of the most brutal systems of sanctions in history against the Iraqi people, which proceeded to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children, especially since the sanctions prevented those destroyed water and sewage treatment plants from being repaired. The U.S. government’s ambassador to the UN, Madeleine Albright, declared that the deaths of half-a-million Iraqi children were “worth it.”

There was also the Pentagon’s intentional stationing of U.S. troops near Islamic holy lands, knowing full well the effect that such an action would have on Muslims.

There was also the brutal “no-fly zones” over Iraq, which enabled the U.S. planes to wreak even more death and destruction in Iraq.

There was also the unconditional support given by U.S. officials to the Israeli government.

The rage that all that interventionism produced within people in the Middle East is what brought on the 9/11 attacks. It also brought on the anti-American terrorism that preceded 9/11 attacks: the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, the attack on the USS Cole, and the attacks on U.S. embassies in East Africa.

Unfortunately, rather than acknowledge what their pre-9/11 interventionism produced, the Pentagon and the CIA doubled down and used the 9/11 attacks to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. Those interventions were followed by interventions in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and elsewhere.

All that new interventionism added fuel to the pre-9/11 rage, which produced more anti-American terrorism, which then caused the Pentagon and the CIA to react even more forcefully against the terrorism.

That’s how we have ended up with an endless supply of terrorists, an perpetual war on terrorism, and the destruction of liberty and prosperity here at home, all of which, of course, has kept the Pentagon, the CIA, and the NSA in high cotton in terms of both money and power. It’s quite possibly the biggest racket in U.S. history.

Glad to learn you are voting for President Trump. He is the first president since WW2 that didn't find more countries to bomb and go to war against.
 

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Glad to learn you are voting for President Trump. He is the first president since WW2 that didn't find more countries to bomb and go to war against.

Is that because he's so weak, or is it his pure stupidity, his unusual lack of knowledge of history, his dis-interest to learn anything about world order, or is it unseen push back from the pentagon?

You have no idea how close we came to conflict with N. Korea. That would have been nice. Maybe that's why previous presidents have just not messed with N. Korea. Now we have an idiot who is 'In Love' with Kim.

Under Trump, Kim's nuclear ambitions have only increased. Trump has accomplished nothing with them despite all his stupid photo ops and his love for the murderous dictator.
 

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...only a trifling quibbler could find much difference between either of the stinking republicrat warmongers...

Foreign Interventionism, 9/11, and the Perpetual War on Terrorism – The Future of Freedom Foundation

"...No, the terrorists didn’t attack us because they hated our “freedom and values,” as U.S. officials and American interventionists claimed after the attacks. Instead, the attacks occurred in retaliation for what the U.S. national-security establishment, specifically the Pentagon and the CIA, had been doing to people in the Middle East prior to the 9/11 attacks.

Recall the Persian Gulf War in 1991, when the U.S. government intervened in a conflict involving their old partner and ally, Saddam Hussein, the dictator of Iraq. Iraq had gotten in a territorial dispute with Kuwait, which ended up with Iraq invading Kuwait.

U.S. officials felt that they could not let Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait to stand, which is somewhat strange given that the U.S. government supported Iraq when it invaded Iran in the 1980s. Without the congressional declaration of war the Constitution requires, the U.S. government went to war against Iraq, killing multitudes of Iraqi people in the process and wreaking untold destruction across the country.

During the conflict, the Pentagon ordered the destruction of Iraq’s water-and-sewage treatment plants, after a study revealed that such destruction would help spread infectious illnesses within the Iraqi populace.

Then once hostilities were ended, the U.S. and UN enforced one of the most brutal systems of sanctions in history against the Iraqi people, which proceeded to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children, especially since the sanctions prevented those destroyed water and sewage treatment plants from being repaired. The U.S. government’s ambassador to the UN, Madeleine Albright, declared that the deaths of half-a-million Iraqi children were “worth it.”

There was also the Pentagon’s intentional stationing of U.S. troops near Islamic holy lands, knowing full well the effect that such an action would have on Muslims.

There was also the brutal “no-fly zones” over Iraq, which enabled the U.S. planes to wreak even more death and destruction in Iraq.

There was also the unconditional support given by U.S. officials to the Israeli government.

The rage that all that interventionism produced within people in the Middle East is what brought on the 9/11 attacks. It also brought on the anti-American terrorism that preceded 9/11 attacks: the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, the attack on the USS Cole, and the attacks on U.S. embassies in East Africa.

Unfortunately, rather than acknowledge what their pre-9/11 interventionism produced, the Pentagon and the CIA doubled down and used the 9/11 attacks to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. Those interventions were followed by interventions in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and elsewhere.

All that new interventionism added fuel to the pre-9/11 rage, which produced more anti-American terrorism, which then caused the Pentagon and the CIA to react even more forcefully against the terrorism.

That’s how we have ended up with an endless supply of terrorists, an perpetual war on terrorism, and the destruction of liberty and prosperity here at home, all of which, of course, has kept the Pentagon, the CIA, and the NSA in high cotton in terms of both money and power. It’s quite possibly the biggest racket in U.S. history.

Blaming the US for 9/11.

Classy.

Osama Bin Laden didn't commit the attacks of 9/11 because of our squashing Saddam Hussein. It was because the US dared to keep bases and forces in Saudi Arabian holy dirt and that we had allied ourselves with Israel.

And the sanctions you bemoan would have ended if Saddam would have simply held up his part of the cease fire agreement.

But, hey... Keep it classy guy.


BTW - Can you discuss anything beyond big C&P walls of text?
 
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Glad to learn you are voting for President Trump. He is the first president since WW2 that didn't find more countries to bomb and go to war against.

“Six months into Trump’s presidency, we now have enough data to assess his own approach. The results are clear: Judging from Trump’s embrace of the use of air power — the signature tactic of U.S. military intervention — he is the most hawkish president in modern history. Under Trump, the United States has dropped about 20,650 bombs through July 31, or 80 percent the number dropped under Obama for the entirety of 2016. At this rate, Trump will exceed Obama’s last-year total by Labor Day.“

Donald Trump Is Dropping Bombs at Unprecedented Levels – Foreign Policy
 

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“Six months into Trump’s presidency, we now have enough data to assess his own approach. The results are clear: Judging from Trump’s embrace of the use of air power — the signature tactic of U.S. military intervention — he is the most hawkish president in modern history. Under Trump, the United States has dropped about 20,650 bombs through July 31, or 80 percent the number dropped under Obama for the entirety of 2016. At this rate, Trump will exceed Obama’s last-year total by Labor Day.“

Donald Trump Is Dropping Bombs at Unprecedented Levels – Foreign Policy

Moronic, cherry picking article. Trump hasnt started a new war, unlike what Clinton, Dubya and Obama have done during their terms.
 

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Moronic, cherry picking article. Trump hasnt started a new war, unlike what Clinton, Dubya and Obama have done during their terms.

“Trump has shrouded his war-making in even greater secrecy than Obama. The U.S. military has not published a monthly Airpower Summary since February 2020, nor official troop deployment numbers for Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria for nearly three years. But the United States has dropped at least 20,000 bombs on Afghanistan since Trump came to power, and there is no evidence of a reduction in bombing under the peace agreement the administration signed with the Taliban in February. Some U.S. troops have been withdrawn under that agreement, but the remaining 8,600 are still being replaced as their tours end, keeping U.S. troop strength at about the same level as when Obama left office.“

“Trump has vetoed every bill passed by Congress to disengage U.S. forces from the Saudi war in Yemen and to halt the sales of U.S.-made warplanes and bombs, which the Saudis use to systematically kill Yemeni civilians. He created a new conflict with Iran by pulling out of the nuclear deal, and in January 2020, he capriciously flirted with a full-scale war on Iran by ordering the assassination of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani and Iraqi military commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis in Iraq.“

Trump's dismal foreign policy record: Lost wars, new conflicts and broken promises | Salon.com
 

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Glad to learn you are voting for President Trump. He is the first president since WW2 that didn't find more countries to bomb and go to war against.

...yes, your great orange chickenhawk has apparently bombed the $h!t out of 'them' foreign darkies!...you ought to be proud....

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable...
 
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New Report Finds ‘War on Terror’ Has Forced 37 Million People to Flee Their Homes - Foundation for Economic Education

“...For the past 14 years, the American Colossus has been on a Godzilla-like rampage, trampling over the Middle East, North Africa, and South Asia: squashing people, flattening homes, and demolishing communities,” Dan Sanchez wrote in summation of this pattern in 2015. “Now its specialty is not offering refuge, but making refugees. Not welcoming huddled masses, but mass-producing them. The Iraq War displaced millions. The chaos it engendered, including the rise of ISIS (which didn’t even exist before the war) displaced millions more.”

And it’s important to note that despite these enormous costs and consequences, the US’s military interventions have largely failed to achieve the intended results. In many cases, we’ve actually made things much worse.

For example, the US originally intervened in Afghanistan in 2001 to punish the Taliban for harboring the terrorists who planned the 9/11 attacks. This justified goal was accomplished within a few years. The decade and a half since of US investment and American lives have been spent on a failed regime change experiment trying to prop up an Afghanistan government that would, all these years later, still collapse in short order without US backing.

In Iraq, the terrorist group ISIS only emerged as a result of the chaos, instability, and ensuing power vacuum the US created with its sweeping intervention.

And in Libya, perhaps the most glaring example, the US launched a military intervention to depose the regime of dictator Muammar el-Qaddafi, hoping to start a new era for the country. Instead we turned it into a literal failed state.

Defenders of the status quo are left with the impossible mission of justifying vast destruction, death, and displacement, with only a litany of failures to show for it.

“The displacement and other suffering must be central to any analysis of the post-9/11 wars and to any conceivable consideration of the future use of military force by the United States or any other country,” the Brown University report concluded. “The legitimacy and efficacy of war should be questioned more than ever given nearly two decades of disastrous outcomes.”

I have long opposed our war mongering, it’s incredible the vast human and financial cost, shot up a hogs butt.

I had hope for a while that the right was “awaking” to a new way, with Rand Paul gaining traction. But trump came along and flattered any hope he had of a presidential bid.

Both sides are war mongering. The left plays a better game of lip service against it, but we see what happens when they get s change to play army.


With that said, trump has at least been a lesser evil in this regard. Moving in the right direction.
 
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Tens Of Millions Of People Displaced By The ‘War On Terror’, The Greatest Scam Ever Invented – Caitlin Johnstone

The “war on terrorism” is just high-budget, mass-scale terrorism, and it creates more terrorism of the ordinary variety as well. Suicide bombings have been unequivocally shown to be almost entirely the result of western interventionism; they were simply a non-issue in Iraq and Afghanistan prior to US invasions there for example. The “war on terror” is not only terrorism itself, it is an established fact that it actually creates more of the type of terrorism it purports to eliminate.

And why wouldn’t it? Why wouldn’t destroying and destabilizing entire nations cause people to want to fight back against you? It is self-evident that it would, just using your own empathy and understanding of human nature. As Jonathan Marshall wrote for Consortium News in 2017:

The most authoritative new study of the sources of terrorism and insurgency on the continent, Journey to Extremism in Africa (September 2017), finds that what triggers many individuals to join violent groups are incidents of government-sponsored violence, such as “killing of a family member or friend” or “arrest of a family member or friend...”

..There is simply no doubt whatsoever that the “war on terror” does the exact opposite of what it purports to do in every conceivable way. This is an utterly and indisputably established fact.

So why does it continue, then? Why is this mass-scale project of intervention and occupation not just continuing but actually escalating, despite the fact that we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that all it does is create more misery, displacement and terrorism?

Easy: because that’s exactly what it’s designed to do."
 

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“Trump has shrouded his war-making in even greater secrecy than Obama. The U.S. military has not published a monthly Airpower Summary since February 2020, nor official troop deployment numbers for Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria for nearly three years. But the United States has dropped at least 20,000 bombs on Afghanistan since Trump came to power, and there is no evidence of a reduction in bombing under the peace agreement the administration signed with the Taliban in February. Some U.S. troops have been withdrawn under that agreement, but the remaining 8,600 are still being replaced as their tours end, keeping U.S. troop strength at about the same level as when Obama left office.“

“Trump has vetoed every bill passed by Congress to disengage U.S. forces from the Saudi war in Yemen and to halt the sales of U.S.-made warplanes and bombs, which the Saudis use to systematically kill Yemeni civilians. He created a new conflict with Iran by pulling out of the nuclear deal, and in January 2020, he capriciously flirted with a full-scale war on Iran by ordering the assassination of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani and Iraqi military commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis in Iraq.“

Trump's dismal foreign policy record: Lost wars, new conflicts and broken promises | Salon.com

So no new wars under Trump then. Thanks for proving my point.
 

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“Six months into Trump’s presidency, we now have enough data to assess his own approach. The results are clear: Judging from Trump’s embrace of the use of air power — the signature tactic of U.S. military intervention — he is the most hawkish president in modern history. Under Trump, the United States has dropped about 20,650 bombs through July 31, or 80 percent the number dropped under Obama for the entirety of 2016. At this rate, Trump will exceed Obama’s last-year total by Labor Day.“

Donald Trump Is Dropping Bombs at Unprecedented Levels – Foreign Policy

let us know when Trump bombs a hospital like Obama did. mmmkay?
 

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let us know when Trump bombs a hospital like Obama did. mmmkay?

It wouldn’t matter to you. You’d tell me x number of people die in hospital bombings ever since Jesus turned water into faygo and boo hoo they were probably antifas who had it coming.
 

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So no new wars under Trump then. Thanks for proving my point.

“Thanks for proving my point” = Internet forumese for you know you just got your ass kicked.
 

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Is that because he's so weak, or is it his pure stupidity, his unusual lack of knowledge of history, his dis-interest to learn anything about world order, or is it unseen push back from the pentagon?

You have no idea how close we came to conflict with N. Korea. That would have been nice. Maybe that's why previous presidents have just not messed with N. Korea. Now we have an idiot who is 'In Love' with Kim.

Under Trump, Kim's nuclear ambitions have only increased. Trump has accomplished nothing with them despite all his stupid photo ops and his love for the murderous dictator.

Outraged we didn't get into another Democratic lead war in N. Korea - and that's why you're voting for Biden isn't it? War in Syria. More war forever in Afghanistan and Iraq, war with North Korea. War with Russia. War with China. There's probably is some remote group of people south of our border of Inca ancestry to attack for the crimes of their ancestors too.
 

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...yes, your great orange chickenhawk has apparently bombed the $h!t out of 'them' foreign darkies!...you ought to be proud....

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable...

What a lie. You're just furious we haven't gotten into even one new war. Over 90% of American war deaths have been under Democratic leadership and you can't wait to get back to more Democratic Party foreign wars.
 

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It wouldn’t matter to you. You’d tell me x number of people die in hospital bombings ever since Jesus turned water into faygo and boo hoo they were probably antifas who had it coming.

Hospitals bombed killing innocent people:
Obama = 1
Trump = 0
 

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Trump simply filled ours.

Actually no, the temporary hospitals werent needed. We are currently building respirators and sending them to other nations to help the less fortunate around the world. You would know this if you watched the briefings.
 

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Actually no, the temporary hospitals werent needed. We are currently building respirators and sending them to other nations to help the less fortunate around the world. You would know this if you watched the briefings.

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What a lie. You're just furious we haven't gotten into even one new war. Over 90% of American war deaths have been under Democratic leadership and you can't wait to get back to more Democratic Party foreign wars.

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...your stinking rotten republicans have $upported all the war$ too!...

...i am disgusted by the stinking democrats worse than you are....and i am disgusted by your stinking republicans more than any democrat here...

...if i may offer some wisdom:...quit sniggling about the stinking blue/red puppets and focus on the puppetma$ter$...

...i 'll plug the 'Alliance For Just Money' for the best ideas/thinking on monetary awareness, realism, reform, etc., here.. i believe they are the remnants of steve zarlenga's group of reformers...zarlenga was the master...anyone who knows of a better monetary historian, please name them..
 
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...your stinking rotten republicans have $upported all the war$ too!...

...i am disgusted by the stinking democrats worse than you are....and i am disgusted by your stinking republicans more than any democrat here...

...if i may offer some wisdom:...quit sniggling about the stinking blue/red puppets and focus on the puppetma$ter$...

...i 'll plug the 'Alliance For Just Money' for the best ideas/thinking on monetary awareness, realism, reform, etc., here.. i believe they are the remnants of steve zarlenga's group of reformers...zarlenga was the master...anyone who knows of a better monetary historian, please name them..

There is a SHIFT key on the keyboard. Try it some time.

And a dollar sign is a poor substitute for the letter 's'. Tends to look childish.

And have you tired of being fact slapped in the USS Liberty thread?
 
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