Biden's description of Obama draws scrutiny

[Stinger]

Biden SHOCK

Breaking on Drudge

SEN. BIDEN SHOCK INTERVIEW: OBAMA FIRST 'CLEAN' BLACK IN MAINSTREAM... 'I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy'...

If he were a Republican this would be the last of his campaign for President.

 

[niftydrifty]

Re: Biden SHOCK

If you weren't a Republican you might've noticed that Drudge sometimes, uh, has posted things that weren't true.

 

[Stinger]

Re: Biden SHOCK

If you weren't a Republican you might've noticed that Drudge sometimes, uh, has posted things that weren't true.

:rofl what a typical response.

Well if you read Drudge regularly you'd find that he's more accurate than most.

And I'm not a Republican.

Why not stick with issue instead of the invective?

 

[niftydrifty]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Because I haven't been convinced that there is an issue.

Drudge is more accurate than most? Care to back that up and take that where it counts?

 

[Stinger]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Because I haven't been convinced that there is an issue.

If Biden made such a remark will you admit there is?

Drudge is more accurate than most?

That's my observation, but the fact is most of what he reports is from other sources.

Care to back that up and take that where it counts?

Do I care to get into an inane argument about Drudge? No.

So what about Biden saying Obama is the FIRST "clean" Black from the mainstream? Did he just shoot himself in the foot or is the comment appropriate?

 

[niftydrifty]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Let me get this straight, Stinger. you want to be able to make claims about a media entity but you don't want to back up your statements when they are challenged.

I have to wonder why you're here.

re: Biden, what about it?

 

[AndrewC]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Biden seems a little friendlier in this one.

ABC News: Joe Biden: Hillary Clinton's Plan for Iraq a 'Disaster'


Fox is running with the negative.
FOXNews.com - Eye on '08: Biden Comes Out Swinging Against His Democratic Opponents - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

Which they found here.
NYO - News Story 1 - Biden Unbound: Lays Into Clinton, Obama, Edwards


Also, CNN has some video of Biden. Though I've not viewed it.

 

[Navy Pride]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Biden is a frigging idiot.......He has no chance to win the democratic nomination.........

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Re: Biden SHOCK

If you weren't a Republican you might've noticed that Drudge sometimes, uh, has posted things that weren't true.

Drudge compiles news items from all over and puts them on his site. Click on any Drudge story and you'll see it linked to another source.
Nice try.


NYO - News Story 1 - Biden Unbound: Lays Into Clinton, Obama, Edwards

 

[niftydrifty]

Re: Biden SHOCK

CA, are you saying that Drudge has never posted anything that isn't true? Because what I said is that he has. Am I wrong?

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Re: Biden SHOCK

CA, are you saying that Drudge has never posted anything that isn't true? Because what I said is that he has. Am I wrong?

I am saying that this story doesn't come from Drudge. Rarely does Drudge post anything that isn't first reported elsewhere. All he does is compile stories from other sites...including this one on Biden. He even provides video and audio of Biden saying it.

 

[Stinger]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Let me get this straight, Stinger. you want to be able to make claims about a media entity but you don't want to back up your statements when they are challenged.

I could care less that you challenged them, he's not the issue and your blantant attempt to divert in order to protect Biden is laughable.

Drudge had it ACCURATE. The story is true. Your attempt to deflect by attacking Drudge just fell on it's face.

I have to wonder why you're here.

To discuss the issues in a civil manner, the issue is Biden and his remark. Your specious smear on Drudge was a phony issue, a red herring as you like to call them. If you want to discuss your assertion about Drudge's veracity start a thread on it and see if anyone else has any interest, I don't.

So what about Biden's remark did he just show once again why he'll never be President?

 

[Stinger]

Re: Biden SHOCK

CA, are you saying that Drudge has never posted anything that isn't true? Because what I said is that he has. Am I wrong?

Are you saying he has never ever posted anything right? HUH HUH HUH!!!! Because I said he has. How bout it. Am I wrong??????? HUH! Post evidence he has never gotten anything right. HUH HUH HUH!


Geez, get on topic and stop trying to divert the thread.

 

[Stinger]

Re: Biden SHOCK

I am saying that this story doesn't come from Drudge. Rarely does Drudge post anything that isn't first reported elsewhere. All he does is compile stories from other sites...including this one on Biden. He even provides video and audio of Biden saying it.

You would think anyone wanting to make assertions about Drudge would at least go and read it and see that what you say is accurate. Rare is the story where he is actually reporting it. He links to interesting stories plus his website links to EVERY other news link. OK nifty no I'm not going to find a source that proves EVERY news link in the world is linked there, it's a figure of speech. You know what that is.

 

[Just Me 2]

Re: Biden SHOCK

I thought this thread was about what a COMPLETE *** Biden made of himself? The story IS true he DID say so can we get some responses to the point of the thread?

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Re: Biden SHOCK

It is being reported that Biden has called Obama and explained what he meant and that it had been taken out of context. According to tonight's network news programs, all is well between the two and the story is over.

 

[Sauwan]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Your specious smear on Drudge was a phony issue, a red herring as you like to call them.

Actually that's just an ad hom. A red herring would be something distracting from the real issue. He was attacking the real issue, just in a fallacious fashion.

So what about Biden's remark did he just show once again why he'll never be President?

Personally, I think Biden is the democrats best shot at president. He has the know-how to start fixing Bush's disaster of a war. That said...depending on who the republicans run (and more likely who the LP runs) I'll probably vote against him.

 

[Just Me 2]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Actually that's just an ad hom. A red herring would be something distracting from the real issue. He was attacking the real issue, just in a fallacious fashion.

Personally, I think Biden is the democrats best shot at president. He has the know-how to start fixing Bush's disaster of a war. That said...depending on who the republicans run (and more likely who the LP runs) I'll probably vote against him.

Might I ask what his plan is to "fix" the war in Iraq. I haven't heard any, all I have heard is the blame game from him but please if he has a plan I would love to know it.

Do share.

 

[Sauwan]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Might I ask what his plan is to "fix" the war in Iraq. I haven't heard any, all I have heard is the blame game from him but please if he has a plan I would love to know it.

Do share.

Care to "share" where I said he has a plan? I do love how people read what they want to read. He has the EXPERIENCE to know how to handle the situation. This is something Obama, Clinton, and even Bush don't/didn't have.

Like I said, there are too many other things I disagree with Biden on, so I haven't taken the time to deeply research exactly what he wants to do, but you're more than welcome to do a Google search or try some of these.

Plan For Iraq
Joe Biden for President

Who knows, you might learn something. However, I'm guessing you won't even bother because of your obvious inclination against him.

 

[niftydrifty]

Re: Biden SHOCK

I thought this thread was about what a COMPLETE *** Biden made of himself? The story IS true he DID say so can we get some responses to the point of the thread?

No this thread is nothing more than an incarnation of Stinger's f***ination with non-stories. There is no point to the thread, hence nothing to discuss, except Drudge's non-issue, event-driven "hearsay" journalism. And also, possibly, why our national debate has devolved into this pointless "he said, she said" drivel.

Why has it come to this? Because it's much easier than thinking.

Might I ask what his plan is to "fix" the war in Iraq. I haven't heard any, all I have heard is the blame game from him but please if he has a plan I would love to know it.

Do share.

Partitioning Iraq.

 

[Just Me 2]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Care to "share" where I said he has a plan? I do love how people read what they want to read. He has the EXPERIENCE to know how to handle the situation. This is something Obama, Clinton, and even Bush don't/didn't have.

Like I said, there are too many other things I disagree with Biden on, so I haven't taken the time to deeply research exactly what he wants to do, but you're more than welcome to do a Google search or try some of these.

Plan For Iraq
Joe Biden for President

Who knows, you might learn something. However, I'm guessing you won't even bother because of your obvious inclination against him.

Ok you stated that e had the "experence" so I thought that meant you knew about him and I DID Google it as you suggested and found that his "experience" tells him to separate the country and give a piece to each sect. Hmmmm could that work? :roll:

 

[niftydrifty]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Are you saying he has never ever posted anything right? HUH HUH HUH!!!! Because I said he has. How bout it. Am I wrong??????? HUH! Post evidence he has never gotten anything right. HUH HUH HUH!

Wow, now this crap REALLY has nothing to do with Biden. Mocking other posters, without addressing the topic AT ALL is really pointless, Sting.

 

[niftydrifty]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Hmmmm could that work?

Iraq is an artificial entity created by the British after WWI. Lines drawn in the sand, if you will, around an area occupied by people having very different customs.

Most nations happen naturally. they evolve. The people sharing a culture have something in common which brings them together. The people of Iraq currently don't. They instead have something in common which is tearing them apart.

There are three 'tribes' there. And guess what? They're fighting one another. They're fighting one another for power. If each tribe were given its own power, then yes, it could work, much better than it is now.

 

[Just Me 2]

Re: Biden SHOCK

Iraq is an artificial entity created by the British after WWI. Lines drawn in the sand, if you will, around an area occupied by people having very different customs.

Most nations happen naturally. they evolve. The people sharing a culture have something in common which brings them together. The people of Iraq currently don't. They instead have something in common which is tearing them apart.

There are three 'tribes' there. And guess what? They're fighting one another. They're fighting one another for power. If each tribe were given its own power, then yes, it could work, much better than it is now.

Yes except for the fact that it is not an equal break down. There are majorities that would over take the minorities the minute we left. I really have no clue what is a good solution but I don't see this as something that would work. There is to much hatred between the tribes.

Oh and my apologies for miss reading your original post.

 

[niftydrifty]

Re: Biden SHOCK

There are majorities that would over take the minorities

I believe the theory is that the Shi'ites would over take the Sunnis less eagerly if the Shi'ites had their own whole pie. And vice versa.

Right now I believe they are fighting to get the whole pie.