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Biden's budget would bankrupt America, put national security at risk

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Really? That idiot wants a $5,800,000,000! We only bring in about $3,000,000,000 in revenue, and less now that people got free money from the government. He is purposely trying to bankrupt us.
 

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Really? That idiot wants a $5,800,000,000! We only bring in about $3,000,000,000 in revenue, and less now that people got free money from the government. He is purposely trying to bankrupt us.
Well, for those of us who have been fighting these traitors for decades - you should know that the $30+ trillion debt is entirely intentional.

The Establishment is going to collapse the economy and use the "crisis" to get rid of the Constitution.

Once the Constitution is gone, they saddle us with a top-down, authoritarian, globalist control system.

They've been working toward this goal for 100 years.
 

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Really? That idiot wants a $5,800,000,000! We only bring in about $3,000,000,000 in revenue, and less now that people got free money from the government. He is purposely trying to bankrupt us.

As usual with a FOX opinion piece, you only have to read two paragraphs in to find the lie:

"He’s also demanding $2.5 trillion in tax hikes, which will undermine our economy for generations to come."

This would be an actual DECREASE in the deficit. Not that anything in the President's budget ever happens.

(The 2020 Budget slated 3.71 trillion in revenue and 4.79 trillion in outlays, btw)
 

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Well, for those of us who have been fighting these traitors for decades - you should know that the $30+ trillion debt is entirely intentional.

The Establishment is going to collapse the economy and use the "crisis" to get rid of the Constitution.

Once the Constitution is gone, they saddle us with a top-down, authoritarian, globalist control system.

They've been working toward this goal for 100 years.

Only one line of the Constitution has to go, in order to dick creditors on the debt.

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 4:

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. ...

And what economic illiterates miss completely, is that inflation makes debt easier to repay.
 

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Really? That idiot wants a $5,800,000,000! We only bring in about $3,000,000,000 in revenue, and less now that people got free money from the government. He is purposely trying to bankrupt us.
So when a young couple signs up to buy a couple of hundred thousand dollar house, they are trying to bankrupt themselves?
 

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Well, for those of us who have been fighting these traitors for decades - you should know that the $30+ trillion debt is entirely intentional.

The Establishment is going to collapse the economy and use the "crisis" to get rid of the Constitution.

Once the Constitution is gone, they saddle us with a top-down, authoritarian, globalist control system.

They've been working toward this goal for 100 years.
Wow you sure you're not a republican? You exude victimhood. The establishment, crisis to get rid of the constitution, authoritarian globalist system and they've been at it for a hundred years. Just wow.

How can all of this be possible when half the country thinks america is turning socialist?
 

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So when a young couple signs up to buy a couple of hundred thousand dollar house, they are trying to bankrupt themselves?

Because the OP won't get that, I'll point out that a hundred thousand is about 1 American's share of the Federal debt.
 

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Wow you sure you're not a republican? You exude victimhood. The establishment, crisis to get rid of the constitution, authoritarian globalist system and they've been at it for a hundred years. Just wow.

How can all of this be possible when half the country thinks america is turning socialist?
The Establishment wants big government.

If they control the government, doesn't it make sense that they'd work to empower the government toward controlling the masses as well as the economy and regulation of business??

Who do you think funds the left, and has been for decades??

The easiest way to understand the Establishment and how they operate is to understand why they crashed the stock market in 1929, and then artificially plunged the world into a depression.

Read Quigley - I know you won't, but all the information you need to understand how the Establishment operates is in his book Tragedy and Hope.
 

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And yet it is a historical fact that the gop runs up the debt more than dems when in power, go figure?
The leadership of both parties are on Team Establishment.

Here is a quote from Quigley in 1966.

Carroll Quigley Quotes​


The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies... is a foolish idea. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/386296.Carroll_Quigley
 

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By the by - the President doesn't originate any spending.

He can submit a budget, but the HoR can spit on it.

As I said,the Republican and Democratic parties are controlled by the globalist Establishment - they give different speeches, and make a good show squabbling, but at the end of the day they do the bidding of the globalists.

The debt is intentional.
 

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Well, for those of us who have been fighting these traitors for decades - you should know that the $30+ trillion debt is entirely intentional.

The Establishment is going to collapse the economy and use the "crisis" to get rid of the Constitution.

Once the Constitution is gone, they saddle us with a top-down, authoritarian, globalist control system.

They've been working toward this goal for 100 years.
They? Bezos, Musk and Gates are 100+? Now Buffett is close, but I really doubt that his master plan was to overthrow the Constitution. It's made him billions.
 

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Well, for those of us who have been fighting these traitors for decades - you should know that the $30+ trillion debt is entirely intentional.

The Establishment is going to collapse the economy and use the "crisis" to get rid of the Constitution.

Once the Constitution is gone, they saddle us with a top-down, authoritarian, globalist control system.

They've been working toward this goal for 100 years.
You may believe that we are surprised that you figured out our secret plan, but we are not. We've known for a long time now. Just yesterday at the Establishment's Sunday social, Biden, W and I were talking about it and Bush Jr. said to me, "you know, that @wist43 that we've been tracking for decades has been so unsuccessful in foiling our schemes, maybe we should stop watching him." I agreed, as did Joe, but unfortunately the decision really falls to the real Establishment leadership like Soros and Trump. I'll see what they think at next week's biweekly Collapse Planning Working Session, since I have to attend to present the new Constitution that we'll be deploying. I just added a new article about cupcakes being an essential human right.
 

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Really? That idiot wants a $5,800,000,000! We only bring in about $3,000,000,000 in revenue, and less now that people got free money from the government. He is purposely trying to bankrupt us.
So what? America just prints its own money. It cannot go bankrupt because it borrows from itself.
 

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In case you haven't noticed, the two parties are far from being identical.
Yes they are... cut out the noise, hyperbole, and bombast... the core policies that are bankrupting our country and destroying our society are constant.

Three card monty... you're distracted by the side show.
 

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Care to speculate what 1 Americans share of our national assets are?

Is it relevant? Assets are enormous, hence why interests rates are so low.

"Every American" owes $1,500 in interest payments per year, mostly to other Americans. It's not great, but for now it's sustainable.
 

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They? Bezos, Musk and Gates are 100+? Now Buffett is close, but I really doubt that his master plan was to overthrow the Constitution. It's made him billions.
So by your reckoning, the Ford Motor Company went out of business when Henry Ford died??

And FYI, the Ford Foundation has been funding the radical left, communism, and anything anti-family and anti-America for decades.

The same goes for JP Morgan, Chase Manhatten, the Warburg financial empire, etc.

The CFR was founded 101 years ago - the goal of which was to bring useful people into their sphere, and use them to advance their anti-American agenda - they're still going strong today.

You think history started since you were born??
 

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How about

Tax the wealthy who haven't paid their fair share for decades to pay for it
 

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Wow you sure you're not a republican? You exude victimhood. The establishment, crisis to get rid of the constitution, authoritarian globalist system and they've been at it for a hundred years. Just wow.

How can all of this be possible when half the country thinks america is turning socialist?
It’s why they have been told that.

Misdirection is one of the things studied to develop the tools used by the manipulation industries

Oir capitalists are falling behind in the “who can be the wealthiest most powerful person” game to foreign capitalists who enjoy a desperate workforce.

So we’re being concentrated. Just slowly enough we don’t jump out of the pot.
 
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