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Were those people from the care homes that Cuomo filled with Covid patients?
Were those people from the care homes that Cuomo filled with Covid patients?
Yes. When the hospitals filled they had to return them to the care homes where unfortunately many died. I have not heard of another plan that would have worked better at that time. Have you?Were those people from the care homes that Cuomo filled with Covid patients?
The question really is.. did he know of a better plan that would work *at the time*?Yes. When the hospitals filled they had to return them to the care homes where unfortunately many died. I have not heard of another plan that would have worked better at that time. Have you?
But that is disingenuous.The question really is.. did he know of a better plan that would work *at the time*?
And the answer is, no. Cuomo was following CDC recommendations, and managing a situation where it looked like hospitals would become overwhelmed.
But eohrnberger doesn’t actually care about appropriate care, or patient deaths. He only cares because he can score political points on a Dem politician.
Were those people from the care homes that Cuomo filled with Covid patients?
That's a lie, and you have no idea what he thinksHere in Colorado, Biden will have a hard time making people wear masks while they are fishing on federal property.
Of course, that's not his intention. He just wants to say he's doing something...even if it's the usual liberal "style over substance".
How do you know they are sick or infectious? These illegal government mandates presume everyone is sick and infectious without any evidence to support their assertions.Are you seriously telling me that you think it's just fine for someone who is sick to transmit an infectious and deadly disease to other people, that they have the right to make other people sick, just whenever it pleases them?
Obviously better than you. I'm here defending them, while you are eager to throw away as many of your individual rights as you possibly can.Do you have any concept of individual rights at all?
What makes you think I have the virus?Or is it your deepest desire to have another individual inflict harm on you? You do not have the right to murder another person with a weapon, what makes you think you have the right to murder them with a virus?
It is wrong for the government to deliberately violate the rights of its citizens. It is really too bad that you don't agree, but that is to be expected from your ilk.Do you consider spitting on another person to be wrong? Do you think it is wrong for the government to enforce laws against spitting on another person? How is this any different? If an aerosolized particle is exhaled from a sick individual and is inhaled by another person, is that not the same thing as spitting on them?
When government attempts to impose their illegal mandate on me. That is when I will have standing with the courts. In the mean time I will continue to defy the illegal mandates of the insane fascist left.When can we expect you to file suit? It's only a couple of hundred dollars for the filing fee and a constitutional expert shouldn't need representation.
Which is why Democrat Governors Cuomo, Murphy, Newsom, and Wolf need to be charged with mass murder. They slaughtered thousands of Americans intentionally.Yes. When the hospitals filled they had to return them to the care homes where unfortunately many died. I have not heard of another plan that would have worked better at that time. Have you?
The government makes us wear pants? Tell that to my neighbor.What if the government makes you wear a seat belt? Motorcycle helmet? Pants in public?
Logically a very irrational answer.Which is why Democrat Governors Cuomo, Murphy, Newsom, and Wolf need to be charged with mass murder. They slaughtered thousands of Americans intentionally.
Good grief! Biden is trying to deal with a problem that has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. Go and French kiss your bears if you want, but take the order in the spirit in which it was given.By mandating masks on federal lands Biden has just violated the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment. He is also encouraging the States to violate the Fourteenth Amendment. Most of the Democrat-controlled sh*thole States already have.
Considering that Alaska is ranked #1 for federal land. With the federal government owning 61.79% of Alaska’s total land, or just shy of 224 million acres, I'm on federal lands all the time. I never a wear a mask, and I'm always armed for bear. Good luck trying to enforce that unconstitutional Executive Order in Alaska. Naturally, this was expected from leftist filth.
What I mean is that you can't walk around outside completely nude.The government makes us wear pants? Tell that to my neighbor.
When government attempts to impose their illegal mandate on me. That is when I will have standing with the courts. In the mean time I will continue to defy the illegal mandates of the insane fascist left.
Making masks a criminal offense is okay by you?
How do you know they are sick or infectious? These illegal government mandates presume everyone is sick and infectious without any evidence to support their assertions.
Obviously better than you. I'm here defending them, while you are eager to throw away as many of your individual rights as you possibly can.
What makes you think I have the virus? This is what makes your ilk so dangerous. When government starts rounding up people who disagree with them without due process and making them disappear, you will be one of the first people to cheer government on. You are absolutely giddy about being a government slave, and it distresses you that someone might resist.
It is wrong for the government to deliberately violate the rights of its citizens. It is really too bad that you don't agree, but that is to be expected from your ilk.
I'm not referring to encouraging people. I'm referring specifically to mandates. Are you not able to grasp the difference? Can you not distinguish between being deprived of your liberty forcibly by government, and being asked to volunteer? That is just truly pathetic.We don't need to know if someone is sick and infectious in order to encourage them to wear masks.
By imposing mandates on my travel and what I must wear government is depriving me of my liberty and property. Since they cannot do this without presenting evidence before a court of law proving beyond a reasonable doubt that I am infected, contagious, and a threat to the public, they are in fact violating the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution.The act of wearing a mask is a minor inconvenience. You are not giving anything up to the government when you wear a mask. You are not giving up your freedom. Right? You would agree with this, I would think. Then the question is how do we compel people to wear their masks?
Place all the propaganda you like, it does not violate the US Constitution. It is merely a waste of taxpayer money.Public awareness campaigns - One of the big problems we suffered through when Trump was President was his insistence, based on his desire to remain in office, to just wish the pandemic away. ... Simple things, like signs to remind people to wear their masks.
There are no laws that mandate everyone must wear a mask or social distance. The reason no such law exists is because it would violate the US Constitution. As the Supreme Court has already held, the US Constitution must be upheld at all times under all conditions, no exceptions.Small fines - We don't need to radically revise our system of laws to tackle global pandemics like this. We already have the precedent set based on how we responded to infectious diseases in the past. ...
More leftist propaganda. Divide that number by at least five or six and you will be in the ballpark. The Wuhan Flu of 2020 has been no worse than the Hong Kong Flu of 1969, and we didn't intentionally destroy our economy, or have fascist leftists insisting everyone wear masks in 1969, because it wasn't an election year. If you want to buy into all the leftist propaganda out of the fear they have been inciting for the last year, that is your right. However, you do not have the right to drag anyone else into your BS fantasy world. If you want to panic, you can panic by yourself.What about the individual rights of the 414,000 people who have died? Why do their rights not matter to you? You are only thinking of yourself, but not others. ...
That is why you will never comprehend the importance of individual due process under the law.I don't understand what you're talking about and how you equate mask mandates with the government making people disappear. It's crazy talk.
That is your problem. You cannot grasp why individual due process is important. Everyone of those examples you cited requires due process under the law. Government cannot fine you for jaywalking, exposing yourself, or public nudity without FIRST providing evidence in a court of law that proves beyond a reasonable doubt the accused is guilty of the charges the government is bringing against them.The mechanisms of dealing with this are really no different than the mechanisms of dealing with other kinds of undesirable behavior that cities and state governments forbid and that you take for granted.
I'll give you a good example: Jaywalking.
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Which is why Democrat Governors Cuomo, Murphy, Newsom, and Wolf need to be charged with mass murder. They slaughtered thousands of Americans intentionally.
As the Supreme Court has already held, the US Constitution must be upheld at all times under all conditions, no exceptions.
By imposing mandates on my travel and what I must wear government is depriving me of my liberty and property. Since they cannot do this without presenting evidence before a court of law proving beyond a reasonable doubt that I am infected, contagious, and a threat to the public, they are in fact violating the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution.
I'm not referring to encouraging people.
'm referring specifically to mandates. Are you not able to grasp the difference? Can you not distinguish between being deprived of your liberty forcibly by government, and being asked to volunteer? That is just truly pathetic.
By imposing mandates on my travel and what I must wear government is depriving me of my liberty and property. Since they cannot do this without presenting evidence before a court of law proving beyond a reasonable doubt that I am infected, contagious, and a threat to the public, they are in fact violating the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution.
Place all the propaganda you like, it does not violate the US Constitution. It is merely a waste of taxpayer money.
There are no laws that mandate everyone must wear a mask or social distance. The reason no such law exists is because it would violate the US Constitution. As the Supreme Court has already held, the US Constitution must be upheld at all times under all conditions, no exceptions.
I know it is your fondest desire to get a government that can just make its citizens disappear without a trace, but that is why we have individual due process.
I know it is your fondest desire to get a government that can just make its citizens disappear without a trace, but that is why we have individual due process.
That is why you will never comprehend the importance of individual due process under the law.
That is your problem. You cannot grasp why individual due process is important. Everyone of those examples you cited requires due process under the law. Government cannot fine you for jaywalking, exposing yourself, or public nudity without FIRST providing evidence in a court of law that proves beyond a reasonable doubt the accused is guilty of the charges the government is bringing against them.
Mandating masks by-passes due process completely. It is equivalent of accusing the entire population of committing a crime, no evidence required, no court of law required, just the accusation is enough to infer guilt. I'm sorry, but that is not how the US operates. If you want that kind of despot government, you will need to find some third-world sh*thole nation.