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Biden versus Stalin

Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile everyone who actual cares about things like facts and honesty will be laughing at you.




That comes to 13 million voters who would not of voted for Biden.
 
Putin is turning into Stalin 2.0 and America has an incompetent, indecisive, feckless bumbling old fool career politician as president. I truly hope we survive this perilous period of history and don't end up in WW3 because of our weakness. We are up against

A few things.
First we are in ww3. You mean you hope Putin does not take out DC and NYC with nukes.
Second, we are blessed, blessed beyond words to have Joe at this time and place.
He has been impeccable. He has handled with calm, reason, steely resolve with escalation while uniting the entire free world behind us.
I say again, I am not religious but I thank God every night before I sleep for Joe.
You would be wise to smarten the **** up in what you post and do the same.
 
You mean that Biden (and all of us) should not be scared of Nuclear Weapons?

That we should do everything to push him to use them because he has no "other choice"?...
I'm not for our direct involvement in Ukraine. But the only difference between the US giving Ukrainians Mig 29's (flown by Ukrainians in Ukrainian airspace) and the US giving them Stinger missiles is how effective they are.

Everyone should be scared of nuclear weapons, but how many times can we let our fear of nukes force us into non-action? What if Putin thinks he's the second coming of Peter the Great and tries to resurrect the Warsaw Pac? Let's say he starts out by invading Romania (NATO member) and warns that if anyone interferes he'll go nuclear? I don't know what we should do, but we have to draw the line somewhere...
 
I'm not for our direct involvement in Ukraine. But the only difference between the US giving Ukrainians Mig 29's (flown by Ukrainians in Ukrainian airspace) and the US giving them Stinger missiles is how effective they are.

Everyone should be scared of nuclear weapons, but how many times can we let our fear of nukes force us into non-action? What if Putin thinks he's the second coming of Peter the Great and tries to resurrect the Warsaw Pac? Let's say he starts out by invading Romania (NATO member) and warns that if anyone interferes he'll go nuclear? I don't know what we should do, but we have to draw the line somewhere...
We defend nato. That's a whole other ball game.
 
I'm not for our direct involvement in Ukraine. But the only difference between the US giving Ukrainians Mig 29's (flown by Ukrainians in Ukrainian airspace) and the US giving them Stinger missiles is how effective they are.

Everyone should be scared of nuclear weapons, but how many times can we let our fear of nukes force us into non-action? What if Putin thinks he's the second coming of Peter the Great and tries to resurrect the Warsaw Pac? Let's say he starts out by invading Romania (NATO member) and warns that if anyone interferes he'll go nuclear? I don't know what we should do, but we have to draw the line somewhere...
I have addressed your question before in this OP.

The idea is not to back of because of fear but to advance forward as Putin shows what he is willing to do. At every moment we match his actions. At no moment should we be the cause of his actions. We proceed with intelligence and caution but we proceed "as needed".
 
Well that's another good reason why the republicans should not have run someone as crooked and dishonest as trump. That is the reason biden is in office.

LMAO, this is the funniest "I hate Trump" rationalization yet. It's Trumps fault Democrats voted for Biden, LMAO

LETS GO BRANDON!

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Indeed and is why Putin must be stopped now. Putin and his implied threat of going nuke has Biden running scared. Putin sees that and realizes he is in complete control and can run Biden all over the geopolitical chess board.
He is being stopped, the Ukrainians are holding them off while Western supplies pour in. Meanwhile the Russian economy already in recession, slips into Depression.

There is little else to be done except to keep turning the economic screws.
 
He is being stopped, the Ukrainians are holding them off while Western supplies pour in. Meanwhile the Russian economy already in recession, slips into Depression.

There is little else to be done except to keep turning the economic screws.
Until when? What is the end game in this?
 
This won't end well for Putin. Might be his downfall, might just set him back and teach him some humility but either way Biden will get the credit whether he deserves it or not.
You might be the only one saying Biden should have 'flooded' Ukraine with missiles. Talk about playing right into Putin's hands! That might possibly be the absolute worst in a long list of options.
Punishing Putin may make you feel better but the objective was to stop in from invading Ukraine and that was a complete fail.
 
He is being stopped, the Ukrainians are holding them off while Western supplies pour in. Meanwhile the Russian economy already in recession, slips into Depression.

There is little else to be done except to keep turning the economic screws.
Stopped from invading? 3 million refugees, thousands dead and cities turned to rubble. That's your idea of stopped?
 
Be serious. Nothing is emerging.

Putin turns 70 in September. By this age, Stalin was already done with most of his pogroms. You get better parallels to Catherine the Great.
A closet Putin supporter or at least an apologists.
 
Stopped from invading? 3 million refugees, thousands dead and cities turned to rubble. That's your idea of stopped?
Your expectations are politically naive prompted from your rabid partisanship.
 
Your expectations are politically naive prompted from your rabid partisanship.
Biden thought he could stop Putin from invading Ukraine wuth diplomacy and threats of sanctions. Obviously he was very very wrong. Now he wants to act like punishing the people of Russia is some kind of huge victory? LOL
 
Biden thought he could stop Putin from invading Ukraine wuth diplomacy and threats of sanctions. Obviously he was very very wrong. Now he wants to act like punishing the people of Russia is some kind of huge victory? LOL
And you would suggest what as an alternative?
 
Biden thought he could stop Putin from invading Ukraine wuth diplomacy and threats of sanctions. Obviously he was very very wrong. Now he wants to act like punishing the people of Russia is some kind of huge victory? LOL
Actually Biden has been warning the West about Putin, do some research. While Biden was warning the West of the danger, Trump was kissing Russian butt and holding back aid to Ukraine.
 
Actually Biden has been warning the West about Putin, do some research. While Biden was warning the West of the danger, Trump was kissing Russian butt and holding back aid to Ukraine.
Biden is President not Trump. Biden was the one who formulated US policy when Putin massed troops on Ukraine borders. Biden policies failed to stop Putin. Nuff said.
 
A closet Putin supporter or at least an apologists.
A realist who tries to stay informed and is willing to read both sides to do so. Acknowledging skill is neither praise nor apology.

Biden thought he could stop Putin from invading Ukraine wuth diplomacy and threats of sanctions.
Trump managed it.

Obviously he was very very wrong.
Skill matters.

Now he wants to act like punishing the people of Russia is some kind of huge victory? LOL
This is nonsense. No one is punishing Russia's people.

I grant that Biden strutting like a Bantam rooster is amusing.

Actually Biden has been warning the West about Putin, do some research.
That's one spin. Another is that he was caught with his pants down.

While Biden was warning the West of the danger, Trump was kissing Russian butt and holding back aid to Ukraine.
Trump was actually thwarting Putin. See Syria.

Are you still on the withholding aid lie? If that was actually true, then the Democrats would have impeached with it. They couldn't.

Biden is President not Trump. Biden was the one who formulated US policy when Putin massed troops on Ukraine borders. Biden policies failed to stop Putin. Nuff said.
Hence the statement that Biden is making Trump look good.
 
Biden is President not Trump. Biden was the one who formulated US policy when Putin massed troops on Ukraine borders. Biden policies failed to stop Putin. Nuff said.
Again

What should have happen?

You have no solutions, nor does the Republican party
 
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Thread title: Biden versus Stalin

@Chainsawmassacre used the correct one.

@RedFishBlueFish - use "v" or "vs" in the future if you prefer!


Putin is turning into Stalin 2.0 and America has an incompetent, indecisive, feckless bumbling old fool career politician as president. I truly hope we survive this perilous period of history and don't end up in WW3 because of our weakness. We are up against a very dangerous man.


"In a speech Thursday, he peppered his remarks with "Stalin-esque" dog whistling and warnings of a "fifth column" of Russian "scum and traitors" working to undermine his ambitions from within, according to a translation of his remarks"

"He called for a "self-purification" to rid Russia of internal war critics"

"The Russian people will always be able to differentiate true patriots from scum and traitors and will simply spit them out like an insect that accidentally flew in and got trapped in your mouth," he continued. "I am confident that a necessary self-cleansing of society will only strengthen our country, our solidarity and readiness to respond to any challenges."


"Putin is calling on the Russian people to root out and expose the traitors and bring them to the attention of government authorities,"




I agree.
 
Punishing Putin may make you feel better but the objective was to stop in from invading Ukraine and that was a complete fail.
Yeah because you know exactly how to stop Putin from invading Ukraine.
Putin's effort was a failure. He's in face-saving mode now- negotiating to pull out with an assurance of Ukrainian neutrality which he could have had a month ago. He'll try to redeem himself at home by declaring "Mission accomplished!" and say he successfully rooted out the fascist element from the Ukrainian government but he might never regain the respect of the powerful people he relies on, for all his display of personal power.
If Biden had 'flooded' Ukraine with missiles like you say he should have you'd be here accusing him of irresponsible brinkmanship. This isn't about how best to deal with Putin for you lot, this is about how best to complain about whatever Biden does or doesn't do.
 
Yeah because you know exactly how to stop Putin from invading Ukraine.
Putin's effort was a failure. He's in face-saving mode now- negotiating to pull out with an assurance of Ukrainian neutrality which he could have had a month ago. He'll try to redeem himself at home by declaring "Mission accomplished!" and say he successfully rooted out the fascist element from the Ukrainian government but he might never regain the respect of the powerful people he relies on, for all his display of personal power.
If Biden had 'flooded' Ukraine with missiles like you say he should have you'd be here accusing him of irresponsible brinkmanship. This isn't about how best to deal with Putin for you lot, this is about how best to complain about whatever Biden does or doesn't do.
And a democrat declares Biden policy success as 10 million Ukraine refugees lose their home, thousands die and Putin turns cities to rubble.
 
And a democrat declares Biden policy success as 10 million Ukraine refugees lose their home, thousands die and Putin turns cities to rubble.
And a Trumpist decides that yes, the USA is the world's policeman and the US President is responsible for anything that happens, anywhere it happens. If, that is, the President is a Democrat.
 
And a Trumpist decides that yes, the USA is the world's policeman and the US President is responsible for anything that happens, anywhere it happens. If, that is, the President is a Democrat.
Biden is responsible for his failure. He put all his eggs in the diplomacy basket without a plan B and negotiated from a position of weakness. His punitive sanctions are fine but don’t try to say they are some kind of success as Putin bombs Ukraine to the stone age.
 
I have addressed your question before in this OP.

The idea is not to back of because of fear but to advance forward as Putin shows what he is willing to do.
So we should base out support of Ukraine on what Putin says he's willing to do?

At every moment we match his actions. At no moment should we be the cause of his actions. We proceed with intelligence and caution but we proceed "as needed".
We're supporting the defense of Ukraine by sending all kinds of weapons, yet Ukraine obviously needs more. Like he's claimed about the Migs, what should we do if Putin warns it is at war with any country sending Stinger missiles? Stop sending them in fear of WWIII? We have to be able to act independently, to send the weapons needed, not only what Putin is willing to accept...
Washington must stop worrying about World War III and act.
 
So we should base out support of Ukraine on what Putin says he's willing to do?


We're supporting the defense of Ukraine by sending all kinds of weapons, yet Ukraine obviously needs more. Like he's claimed about the Migs, what should we do if Putin warns it is at war with any country sending Stinger missiles? Stop sending them in fear of WWIII? We have to be able to act independently, to send the weapons needed, not only what Putin is willing to accept...
Washington must stop worrying about World War III and act.
???? Are you not able to interpret words correctly>

I fully support what can be done legally, morally and with the intent to help without triggering bigger problems My statement simply stated that we should not be the ones "triggering" further responses that we may not be able to control. We should do what we can without going over the safety line that puts the entire world at risk of dying.

Do you not agree that this is the intelligent, responsible, and correct thing to do?

Or are you the kind of person that goes in with guns blazing, balls showing, and with no evaluation of the risks involved in doing that?

and by the way and addressing your last paragraph. Neither of us has enough information to say what should be done or can be done. Every weapon has a benefit and a consequence involved in using it. You just don't send in weapons without considering what the consequences might be (like perhaps the Ukrainians not having the necessary experience and knowledge of the weapon itself, to use it correctly without consequences to themselves or other innocent people).

As far as stinger missiles being sent, two officials of the U.S. government have stated they have been sent to Ukraine

But this is the "official line":

The world knows — and Russia knows — that the U.S. is siding with Ukraine. But when it comes to the most provocative moves, namely delivering lethal and effective weapons and intelligence, President JOE BIDEN and his team prefer to keep silent. Clearly the administration has assessed that any official confirmation from the White House would be seen as a serious escalation by Moscow.

They are doing so but not making star headlines and yelling it from the ramparts. Does this way of doing this not make sense to you?
 
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