Biden Using Ukraine to Wag the Dog

[LouC]

Biden is using the Ukraine invasion to help him Wag the Dog. He's using the Ukraine war to shift the headlines away from his mismanagement at home, and to find a new excuse for the rampant inflation his policies have caused.

Biden & Democrats also intend to build up the Putin bogeyman as their strategy to defeat Trump in the next presidential elections.

They are literally stage-managing foreign policy & international relations with solely their electoral goals in mind.

They crazily think they can milk this war to help themselves get re-elected. These are the depths that this administration has fallen to. Talk about being predatory parasites feeding on tragedy.

 

[cpwill]

One question I have not heard asked is if a member of nato decides on it's own to defend someone outside of nato and gets attacked in the process, should that be viewed as an attack on nato?

I believe the answer according to the treaty is "no".

 

[sanman]

So?

It matters that Ukraine is an extremely corrupt country which has impoverished itself through corruption & mismanagement, and which has turned to becoming a rentier state as a stunt to get cash.

And Russia doesn't?

Russia's not applying to join NATO to get cash to bail themselves out from corruption -- Ukraine is.

On the democracy index Ukraine is a 5.57 and considered a hybrid regime.

They have plenty of oligarchs with ill-gotten wealth, and nobody is sanctioning them for ripping off their own people. Hell, they even have close business ties with Russian oligarchs. I guess when you're a Ukrainian fat-cat, then you get to have the best of all worlds. What a racket.

Russia... is a 3.24 and considered authoritarian.

The Economist Democracy Index - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Zelensky has arrested opposition leaders and shut down media criticizing him. So he's only non-authoritarian to those who he's politically aligned with - otherwise, if you're a political opponent, then you get arrested.

Russia has bullied and invaded Ukraine. They've had a sour relationship with Russia all the way back when Stalin starved millions of them. Russia is like an abusive husband that demands his wife stay with him. It's no wonder most Ukrainians want to side with the West.

Stalin was a Georgian. His interior minister Beria was also Georgian. They're the ones who starved Ukraine. They were the rulers of the power structure.

Fears of WHAT? Ukraine is not invading Russia. NATO is not invading Russia. These are unfounded fears rooted in paranoia.

Ukraine would become the spearhead for a NATO that invades Russia. Given the fact that NATO has been continually expanding eastwards, this has caused the Russians to become more and more worried.
And NATO poses a threat to more than just Russia's sovereignty -- it poses a threat to American sovereignty. It was when Trump dared to call for NATO countries to pay their fair share, that this infuriated the NATO lobby, and triggered them into perpetrating the Russia Collusion Hoax against Trump. The day Trump dared to call for NATO members to pay more, that NATO shill Madeleine Albright immediately appeared on MSNBC nightly news mere hours later, expressing her alarm at Trump's statements and calling him "crazy". By daring to call out NATO, Trump had just painted a target on his back. Mere days later, Trump's campaign manager Manafort was suddenly fingered allegedly for having worked for Russia (big ****ing deal - plenty of Democrat political consultants had also consulted for Russia. Manafort had also consulted for Ukraine, as had other Democrats). Then soon Trump was targeted more directly, with allegations about his business dealings in Russia (he's got business dealings around the world, not just in Russia.) Then came the Steele Dossier with its crazy 'Pee Tape' bullshit, and the Collusion Hoax spun into high gear. Republicans were totally clueless about what was going, because Republican rank-and-file have never taken a critical eye to NATO, and never imagined the NATO lobby could behave this way. The fact that Trump has taken on so many sacred entrenched special interests is, in my opinion, the real reason behind Trump Derangement Syndrome.
America is touted as NATO's "leader" when, thanks to the crooked & ruthless NATO lobby, it has become NATO's vassal. Americans have at least as much right to self-determination as Ukrainians do, and NATO should not interfere with America's domestic politics just to assert its will over the country.

 

[VySky]

Conspiracy section is a little lower down

Actually the OP is very real. Americans screwed up bigly putting Mr Dementia at the helm.

 

[VySky]

I'm not saying it'll work -- I'm saying that the amateur idiots in Whitehouse are desperate enough that they're stooping to such stunts.

Btw - if you think the people in the Biden admin are so smart - did you see Blinken's nutty response in his latest TV interview?
Interviewer asked Blinken a very important question: Was he okay with Poland giving its own Mig-29 jet fighters to Ukraine to use in combat against Russian forces?
Blinken said, sure it's totally fine, they're giving a green light on that.
The PENTAGON IMMEDIATELY scrambled to put out their own clarification that no such thing would be allowed.

What kind of ****ing dumbass is Blinken to not understand that talk like that could lead to WW3?

Sounds like they have a Covid like communication issue.

Typical of this damaging WH

 

[Peter]

How far do you think we should be willing to go to stop it?

We are doing what we can by supplying weapons and allowing anyone who wants to flee the warzone into Europe.
While we can't attack Russia directly for fear of it turning nuclear we can at least try and help them defend themselves and save as many lives as possible.

 

[Perotista]

Biden is using the Ukraine invasion to help him Wag the Dog. He's using the Ukraine war to shift the headlines away from his mismanagement at home, and to find a new excuse for the rampant inflation his policies have caused.

Biden & Democrats also intend to build up the Putin bogeyman as their strategy to defeat Trump in the next presidential elections.

They are literally stage-managing foreign policy & international relations with solely their electoral goals in mind.

They crazily think they can milk this war to help themselves get re-elected. These are the depths that this administration has fallen to. Talk about being predatory parasites feeding on tragedy.

First off, the media is covering the war in the Ukraine because that is the hottest issue alive today. COVID, inflation etc. has take 2nd page billing if they’re that high. But most folks once they go to the store to buy food, fill up their car, look for affordable housing, clothes etc. they see the effects of inflation and rising prices every day. They don’t have to have the media telling them about it. They’re living it, personally.

As for the Russian invasion of the Ukraine, there’s been no rally behind the flag and thus Biden and the Democrats. According to the polls, most Americans approve of what Biden has done with sanctions, but don’t want to get involved militarily. Biden’s over all approval rating was at 41% pre-Ukraine invasion, today it’s still at 41%. If this is wag the dog, it’s an utterly failure.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html

There’s also been no change in the generic congressional ballot. Pre-Ukraine the Republicans had a 3.6-point lead, today, their lead is the same 3.6 points.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Biden is using the Ukraine invasion to help him Wag the Dog. He's using the Ukraine war to shift the headlines away from his mismanagement at home, and to find a new excuse for the rampant inflation his policies have caused.

Biden & Democrats also intend to build up the Putin bogeyman as their strategy to defeat Trump in the next presidential elections.

They are literally stage-managing foreign policy & international relations with solely their electoral goals in mind.

They crazily think they can milk this war to help themselves get re-elected. These are the depths that this administration has fallen to. Talk about being predatory parasites feeding on tragedy.

lol

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Biden is using the Ukraine invasion to help him Wag the Dog. He's using the Ukraine war to shift the headlines away from his mismanagement at home, and to find a new excuse for the rampant inflation his policies have caused.

Biden & Democrats also intend to build up the Putin bogeyman as their strategy to defeat Trump in the next presidential elections.

They are literally stage-managing foreign policy & international relations with solely their electoral goals in mind.

They crazily think they can milk this war to help themselves get re-elected. These are the depths that this administration has fallen to. Talk about being predatory parasites feeding on tragedy.

The administration just took a step that's going to hurt their reelection prospects by stopping the flow of russian oil.

How do you reconcile this with your crazy conspiracy theory?

 

[Greenbeard]

Biden & Democrats also intend to build up the Putin bogeyman as their strategy to defeat Trump in the next presidential elections.

Such confidence that Putin will still be alive in 2024.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Biden is using the Ukraine invasion to help him Wag the Dog. He's using the Ukraine war to shift the headlines away from his mismanagement at home, and to find a new excuse for the rampant inflation his policies have caused.
Biden & Democrats also intend to build up the Putin bogeyman as their strategy to defeat Trump in the next presidential elections.
They are literally stage-managing foreign policy & international relations with solely their electoral goals in mind.
They crazily think they can milk this war to help themselves get re-elected. These are the depths that this administration has fallen to. Talk about being predatory parasites feeding on tragedy.

Somehow your post is way ****en shy on facts, examples and sources.

I wonder why your argument is unsupported?

Do you know why you failed to support your assertions?

gl

 

[sanman]

Such confidence that Putin will still be alive in 2024.

I realize that imperalists within the United States would love to see anyone else dead who's an obstacle to them in redrawing the entire world map in totalitarianist conquest.
These same imperialists would like to see the American people themselves prostrate and deprived of their freedom -- all in the name of promoting freedom.
When you have crooked people now suddenly trying federalize election laws in the United States in order to centrally control them, and suddenly claiming this is necessary "to end Jim Crow", when you have crooked people trying to legalize ballot-harvesting through unprecedented reliance on mail-in balloting, when you have crooked people suddenly nakedly packing the US Supreme Court with obviously unqualified puppets, when you have a crooked media who are all marching in lockstep parroting Fake News and scripted talking points verbatim in complete unison, then it's clear that America itself is under threat from these games of empire. America's own national institutions are being eroded and replaced with institutions of empire, and this will be to the detriment of not only the rest of the people of the world, but to the detriment of the American people themselves.

 

[sanman]

The administration just took a step that's going to hurt their reelection prospects by stopping the flow of russian oil.

How do you reconcile this with your crazy conspiracy theory?

They're not only inept, but engaging in such overreach to please their diverse coalition of interest groups, that they're of course wrecking their standing with the public in general.
They'd already stoked inflation through their chequebook policymaking, and now hope to lay the blame for it all on Putin. Their cutoff of Russian oil is now being used to peddle their new narrative that inflation has started due to Ukraine crisis -- as if inflation wasn't already the most severe it's been in a half-century.

 

[sanman]

First off, the media is covering the war in the Ukraine because that is the hottest issue alive today. COVID, inflation etc. has take 2nd page billing if they’re that high. But most folks once they go to the store to buy food, fill up their car, look for affordable housing, clothes etc. they see the effects of inflation and rising prices every day. They don’t have to have the media telling them about it. They’re living it, personally.

As for the Russian invasion of the Ukraine, there’s been no rally behind the flag and thus Biden and the Democrats. According to the polls, most Americans approve of what Biden has done with sanctions, but don’t want to get involved militarily. Biden’s over all approval rating was at 41% pre-Ukraine invasion, today it’s still at 41%. If this is wag the dog, it’s an utterly failure.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html

There’s also been no change in the generic congressional ballot. Pre-Ukraine the Republicans had a 3.6-point lead, today, their lead is the same 3.6 points.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html

Oh, they may not be succeeding, but that's not deterred them from trying. These people are completely shameless stuntsmen. They are riding the tiger and scared to fall off.

 

[trouble13]

I believe the answer according to the treaty is "no".

That would make sense as it would also make sense that any country who assists the Ukraine is not assured that nato would defend them if Russia attacked and would attempt to get America to make the first move. Especially if you're a small country like Poland with Russia as your neighbor.

 

[Antiwar]

I'm pretty sure Biden's wagging that dog in some way, but you lost me after I read some of your Lost Causes.

 

[Grand Mal]

Biden is using the Ukraine invasion to help him Wag the Dog. He's using the Ukraine war to shift the headlines away from his mismanagement at home, and to find a new excuse for the rampant inflation his policies have caused.

Biden & Democrats also intend to build up the Putin bogeyman as their strategy to defeat Trump in the next presidential elections.

They are literally stage-managing foreign policy & international relations with solely their electoral goals in mind.

They crazily think they can milk this war to help themselves get re-elected. These are the depths that this administration has fallen to. Talk about being predatory parasites feeding on tragedy.

Absolutely meaningless string of words. This whole post is just crap. A ridiculous failure of an attempt to vilify Biden at any cost, whether there's a lick of sense in it or not.

Listen up. The world is watching Ukraine. That's not a Democratic plot. That's not Biden building a Putin bogeyman. But this post is you showing desperation.

 

[Nickyjo]

Biden is using the Ukraine invasion to help him Wag the Dog. He's using the Ukraine war to shift the headlines away from his mismanagement at home, and to find a new excuse for the rampant inflation his policies have caused.

Biden & Democrats also intend to build up the Putin bogeyman as their strategy to defeat Trump in the next presidential elections.

They are literally stage-managing foreign policy & international relations with solely their electoral goals in mind.

They crazily think they can milk this war to help themselves get re-elected. These are the depths that this administration has fallen to. Talk about being predatory parasites feeding on tragedy.

Mismanagement at home? Record job growth as we recover from shutdowns. People are buying more stuff so inflation happens. It will cool.

 

[Deuce]

You heard it here first, people! Biden invaded Ukraine pretending to be Russia to throw off Fox News!!!

 

[trouble13]

We are doing what we can by supplying weapons and allowing anyone who wants to flee the warzone into Europe.
While we can't attack Russia directly for fear of it turning nuclear we can at least try and help them defend themselves and save as many lives as possible.

We could do more but I can respect that you feel that we should not.

 

[sanman]

Mismanagement at home? Record job growth as we recover from shutdowns. People are buying more stuff so inflation happens. It will cool.

Biden and his fellow Democrats have been the ones to impose the job-killing shutdowns. Then you want to refer to recovery from that as record job growth??
This is like starving someone to become emaciated, and then after they gain weight by eating normally again, you proudly say "wow, your muscles have grown much bigger thanks to me!"
That's retarded.

 

[JasperL]

I realize that imperalists within the United States would love to see anyone else dead who's an obstacle to them in redrawing the entire world map in totalitarianist conquest.
These same imperialists would like to see the American people themselves prostrate and deprived of their freedom -- all in the name of promoting freedom.
When you have crooked people now suddenly trying federalize election laws in the United States in order to centrally control them, and suddenly claiming this is necessary "to end Jim Crow", when you have crooked people trying to legalize ballot-harvesting through unprecedented reliance on mail-in balloting, when you have crooked people suddenly nakedly packing the US Supreme Court with obviously unqualified puppets, when you have a crooked media who are all marching in lockstep parroting Fake News and scripted talking points verbatim in complete unison, then it's clear that America itself is under threat from these games of empire. America's own national institutions are being eroded and replaced with institutions of empire, and this will be to the detriment of not only the rest of the people of the world, but to the detriment of the American people themselves.

If someone tried to create an example of "projection" in real life, that post would do nicely. Also, "gaslighting." Putin invades Ukraine, and it's those resisting that invasion who are engaged in "totalitarian conquest." Trump just jammed through 3 SC picks. One by the GOP delaying any vote for a year until Trump was inaugurated, the third was rushed through in the last possible days before Trump lost an election, and it's Democrats "nakedly packing" the SC by....not having named anyone for several years. You might as well be telling us black is really white.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

Damn sanman, your trolling is pathetic. LOL

Anybody with any real sense knows this mess, and inflation and and gas prices and the southern border are all because of Joe's incompetence. The democrats will not say it but they are sure driving towards a different candidate in 2024.

so is pretty much every right wingers LOL Christ almighty, can the forum just ban this ridiculous moronic trolling already?

 

[sanman]

Absolutely meaningless string of words. This whole post is just crap. A ridiculous failure of an attempt to vilify Biden at any cost, whether there's a lick of sense in it or not.

Listen up. The world is watching Ukraine. That's not a Democratic plot. That's not Biden building a Putin bogeyman. But this post is you showing desperation.

Biden is a senile figurehead. Watch him speak. Watch his handlers hustle him away from every appearance, so that journalists can no longer ask questions for him to answer. That's normal? This is your new standard for democracy? You didn't like when Trump sparred with the media, but at least he was there to take questions. Hell, if Trump had behaved like Biden now does in walking away so that people can't ask questions, then you'd be calling him every name in the book. And Jim Acosta's career would be nowhere.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Yeah, how crazy that the media are mostly reporting about a war in Europe and not concentrating on smearing Biden at every opportunity.
It's almost like one of those is way, way more important for some unknown reason.

That's what Fox News is for. That way, everyone else can focus on other things and you know where to go when you just want to hear people venting.