Biden to "Transition" from Oil Industry

[Jack Hays]

Don't worry about Big Oil. The oil industry is transitioning from fossil fuels. Time to invest in alternative and sustainable energy.

There's nothing more sustainable than oil and gas.

 

[swing_voter]

1. Ensure the U.S. achieves a 100% clean energy economy and reaches net-zero emissions no later than 2050. On day one, Biden will sign a series of new executive orders with unprecedented reach that go well beyond the Obama-Biden Administration platform and put us on the right track. And, he will demand that Congress enacts legislation in the first year of his presidency that: 1) establishes an enforcement mechanism that includes milestone targets no later than the end of his first term in 2025, 2) makes a historic investment in clean energy and climate research and innovation, 3) incentivizes the rapid deployment of clean energy innovations across the economy, especially in communities most impacted by climate change.

Plan for Climate Change and Environmental Justice | Joe Biden

Joe Biden knows climate change is the greatest threat facing our country and our world, and he has a bold plan for a clean energy revolution.

joebiden.com

That's from Joe's website.

2050, you have 30 years to get rid of your carbon emissions.


So the transition will occur in 30 years time.




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[EMNofSeattle]

They shouldn't remain so. We need to transition, even if we have to bring some over kicking and screaming.

Nuclear would be our best foundation, with renewable and more natural energy sources taking on a strong percentage of the load where able.

Well I am glad you single handedly know everything there is to know about energy and can therefore make the policy declaration we shouldn’t use any oil.

 

[Jack Hays]

I too have mentioned that numerous times, to deaf ears.
Even the oil industry is planning for a transition of some kind.
Saudi Arabia is preparing as well, the KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA.

Meanwhile, here is what "doing the right thing looks like"....it looks like "using cooked images from Russia and Slovenia" when portraying an America on its way back.

Please remain unaware, @Jack Hays.
I think you're absolutely fabulous.

Sorry, I voted for the other guy.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

1. Ensure the U.S. achieves a 100% clean energy economy and reaches net-zero emissions no later than 2050. On day one, Biden will sign a series of new executive orders with unprecedented reach that go well beyond the Obama-Biden Administration platform and put us on the right track. And, he will demand that Congress enacts legislation in the first year of his presidency that: 1) establishes an enforcement mechanism that includes milestone targets no later than the end of his first term in 2025, 2) makes a historic investment in clean energy and climate research and innovation, 3) incentivizes the rapid deployment of clean energy innovations across the economy, especially in communities most impacted by climate change.

Plan for Climate Change and Environmental Justice | Joe Biden

Joe Biden knows climate change is the greatest threat facing our country and our world, and he has a bold plan for a clean energy revolution.

joebiden.com

That's from Joe's website.

2050, you have 30 years to get rid of your carbon emissions.


So the transition will occur in 30 years time.




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So you endorse the holodomor 2.0?

 

[MTAtech]

Whether Biden says it or not, the industry trend is to move away from fossil fuel. GM is bringing back the Hummer as an electric vehicle. In 30 years there won’t Be gas powered cars. Meanwhile, solar and wind are increasing every year.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

1. Ensure the U.S. achieves a 100% clean energy economy and reaches net-zero emissions no later than 2050. On day one, Biden will sign a series of new executive orders with unprecedented reach that go well beyond the Obama-Biden Administration platform and put us on the right track. And, he will demand that Congress enacts legislation in the first year of his presidency that: 1) establishes an enforcement mechanism that includes milestone targets no later than the end of his first term in 2025, 2) makes a historic investment in clean energy and climate research and innovation, 3) incentivizes the rapid deployment of clean energy innovations across the economy, especially in communities most impacted by climate change.

Plan for Climate Change and Environmental Justice | Joe Biden

Joe Biden knows climate change is the greatest threat facing our country and our world, and he has a bold plan for a clean energy revolution.

joebiden.com

That's from Joe's website.

2050, you have 30 years to get rid of your carbon emissions.




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The hard part for Biden and any committed Dems to accept is the fact that we, try as we might, will NEVER EVER reach zero.
That said, if we don't allow perfect to be the enemy of good, we may very well indeed reach a stultifyingly low number.
And that's even if we allow fans to keep using their treasured fossil fuel vehicles.
And that is pretty much how it will be, just as there are still folks who love vinyl, still have vacuum tube amplifiers.

And we will have to accept that we did a remarkable job of it. We should. Because I know we are going to try very hard.

 

[trblmkr]

Ten years ago, the line was that electric cars can't go far enough or fast enough. That is no longer true. And now it is no longer true by a factor of 10.
Nothing is possible until we believe it is. I believe.

 

[Parrish]

There's nothing more sustainable than oil and gas.

There's nothing more sustainable than oil and gas.

Well, you gave it a try, Jack.

 

[trblmkr]

The hard part for Biden and any committed Dems to accept is the fact that we, try as we might, will NEVER EVER reach zero.
That said, if we don't allow perfect to be the enemy of good, we may very well indeed reach a stultifyingly low number.
And that's even if we allow fans to keep using their treasured fossil fuel vehicles.
And that is pretty much how it will be, just as there are still folks who love vinyl, still have vacuum tube amplifiers.

And we will have to accept that we did a remarkable job of it. We should. Because I know we are going to try very hard.
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[EMNofSeattle]

Ten years ago, the line was that electric cars can't go far enough or fast enough. That is no longer true. And now it is no longer true by a factor of 10.
Nothing is possible until we believe it is. I believe.

It is absolutely true they don’t go far enough.

which is why no one buys them unless the government pays them too

 

[chuckiechan]

Remember VHS?
Remember rotary dial phones?

They still function in today's environment, but ALMOST NOBODY is spewing fond memories of them, are they?
That is how the transition away from petroleum will happen.
Even the oil companies and automakers acknowledge this.
Unless you can point to Biden saying that gasoline cars will be banned on January 22, 2021, quit running around with your hair on fire.

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Because that's what it sounds like, that's what the American Spectator's hack wannabe writer sounds like, that's what the entire population of Trumplandia sounds like.

Democrats start with ratcheting up the fuel mileage and emission standards until they become unaffordable. After all, mass transit will get most people within a couple miles of their jobs. Sucks if you are old or it’s a snow day.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Whether Biden says it or not, the industry trend is to move away from fossil fuel. GM is bringing back the Hummer as an electric vehicle. In 30 years there won’t Be gas powered cars. Meanwhile, solar and wind are increasing every year.

Oh there will DEFINITELY BE gasoline powered cars, just not much in the way of NEW models for sale.
Like the Funai Corp, who made the very very VERY LAST VHS machine in July of 2016, at least one manufacturer will continue making some kind of gasoline vehicle and they will secure ways to sell them.
And manufacturers will continue making parts and entire engines for gasoline cars, and gasoline will continue to be available everywhere.
What's going to change is DEMAND.

Once people get a taste of commuting in rush hour traffic with the relative ease and comfort of most electrics, their treasured gas buggies will be reserved for pleasure and spend most of their time under a tarp or in a garage, and taken out on nice weekends or date night.
Thirty years from now we will still see these museum curiosities.
And I assure you, the reaction, while mostly favorable, will still be mixed.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Democrats start with ratcheting up the fuel mileage and emission standards until they become unaffordable. After all, mass transit will get most people within a couple miles of their jobs. Sucks if you are old or it’s a snow day.

Gas cars? Meanwhile electrics will get cheaper and cheaper.
Or did you think that they will get more expensive?
Been to Harbor Freight lately?

 

[MTAtech]

Oh there will DEFINITELY BE gasoline powered cars, just not much in the way of NEW models for sale.
Like the Funai Corp, who made the very very VERY LAST VHS machine in July of 2016, at least one manufacturer will continue making some kind of gasoline vehicle and they will secure ways to sell them.
And manufacturers will continue making parts and entire engines for gasoline cars, and gasoline will continue to be available everywhere.
What's going to change is DEMAND.

Once people get a taste of commuting in rush hour traffic with the relative ease and comfort of most electrics, their treasured gas buggies will be reserved for pleasure and spend most of their time under a tarp or in a garage, and taken out on nice weekends or date night.
Thirty years from now we will still see these museum curiosities.
And I assure you, the reaction, while mostly favorable, will still be mixed.

I wasn’t thinking of legacy vehicles.
This is the trend.

Electric vehicles

The sales of battery electric and plug-in hybrid electric cars tipped over the two-million-vehicle mark for the first time in 2019. In this Deloitte report, we take a new approach to market segmentation and exemplify how to seize opportunities and manage risks.

www2.deloitte.com

 

[chuckiechan]

Gas cars? Meanwhile electrics will get cheaper and cheaper.
Or did you think that they will get more expensive?
Been to Harbor Freight lately?

Harbor Freight = Chinese imports. Is that you vision of the American auto industry. No wonder Joe is investing in China.

 

[George50]

Fossil fuels will remain primary.

It doesn’t look that way. It looks like we are headed towards solar and wind as the primary energy sources unless current trends change.

First, the automotive industry has decided that it is going all electric.

“General Motors’ vision of a world with zero emissions will be powered by a future where every vehicle is an electric vehicle.”

“GM is on its way to an all-electric future, with a commitment to 20 new electric vehicles by 2023 and plans for additional models taking us beyond that.”

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Transportation gobbles up about 68% of oil production. So a big hit there.


Second, electric power generation is going to solar and wind and away from fossil fuels. Natural gas is still alive, but solar and wind are being added more than 3 times faster than NG.

“According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration’s (EIA) latest inventory of electric generators, EIA expects 42 gigawatts (GW) of new capacity additions to start commercial operation in 2020. Solar and wind represent almost 32 GW, or 76%, of these additions. Wind accounts for the largest share of these additions at 44%, followed by solar and natural gas at 32% and 22%, respectively. The remaining 2% comes from hydroelectric generators and battery storage.”

“Scheduled capacity retirements (11 GW) for 2020 will primarily be driven by coal (51%), followed by natural gas (33%) and nuclear (14%). Other smaller renewable, petroleum, and hydro capacity account for the remaining 2% of 2020 retirements.”

New electric generating capacity in 2020 will come primarily from wind and solar - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

 

[Anthony60]

See, when fossil fuels came around, we didn't have the government shoving it down our throats. They were better than anything else. People wanted to use them. Now, the "renewables" are being forced on us, by the left, because they are not better, cheaper, or more efficient. If they were better, they would be pushing fossil fuels out the door, without government help. But they are not.

What they have become, is a political tool for the left. A tool used to give the government more power. That is their primary function. For all we know, energy from solar and wind may not get much better than they are now. They might never replace fossil fuels.

 

[trblmkr]

There's nothing more sustainable than oil and gas.

So the sun never shines and the wind never blows? I realize they have their limitations, but oil and gas will run out eventually. And if we wish to push that date out, we better have an alternative.

 

[Jack Hays]

It doesn’t look that way. It looks like we are headed towards solar and wind as the primary energy sources unless current trends change.

First, the automotive industry has decided that it is going all electric.

“General Motors’ vision of a world with zero emissions will be powered by a future where every vehicle is an electric vehicle.”

“GM is on its way to an all-electric future, with a commitment to 20 new electric vehicles by 2023 and plans for additional models taking us beyond that.”

Site Maintenance

www.gm.com

Transportation gobbles up about 68% of oil production. So a big hit there.


Second, electric power generation is going to solar and wind and away from fossil fuels. Natural gas is still alive, but solar and wind are being added more than 3 times faster than NG.

“According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration’s (EIA) latest inventory of electric generators, EIA expects 42 gigawatts (GW) of new capacity additions to start commercial operation in 2020. Solar and wind represent almost 32 GW, or 76%, of these additions. Wind accounts for the largest share of these additions at 44%, followed by solar and natural gas at 32% and 22%, respectively. The remaining 2% comes from hydroelectric generators and battery storage.”

“Scheduled capacity retirements (11 GW) for 2020 will primarily be driven by coal (51%), followed by natural gas (33%) and nuclear (14%). Other smaller renewable, petroleum, and hydro capacity account for the remaining 2% of 2020 retirements.”

New electric generating capacity in 2020 will come primarily from wind and solar - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

Sorry, but the numbers don't work.
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[EMNofSeattle]

I wasn’t thinking of legacy vehicles.
This is the trend.

Electric vehicles

The sales of battery electric and plug-in hybrid electric cars tipped over the two-million-vehicle mark for the first time in 2019. In this Deloitte report, we take a new approach to market segmentation and exemplify how to seize opportunities and manage risks.

www2.deloitte.com

A nearly entirely subsidized sector.

 

[Jack Hays]

So the sun never shines and the wind never blows? I realize they have their limitations, but oil and gas will run out eventually. And if we wish to push that date out, we better have an alternative.

The more we use the more we find.

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[Checkerboard Strangler]

Harbor Freight = Chinese imports. Is that you vision of the American auto industry. No wonder Joe is investing in China.

Try to think harder.
No, I don't see Chinese imports but I do see downward trends in pricing on ALL technology.
Ask yourself why.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

See, when fossil fuels came around, we didn't have the government shoving it down our throats. They were better than anything else. People wanted to use them. Now, the "renewables" are being forced on us, by the left, because they are not better, cheaper, or more efficient. If they were better, they would be pushing fossil fuels out the door, without government help. But they are not.

What they have become, is a political tool for the left. A tool used to give the government more power. That is their primary function. For all we know, energy from solar and wind may not get much better than they are now. They might never replace fossil fuels.

Au contraire.
Uncle Sam helped the nascent oil industry a great deal...as it should be.

 

[George50]

See, when fossil fuels came around, we didn't have the government shoving it down our throats. They were better than anything else. People wanted to use them. Now, the "renewables" are being forced on us, by the left, because they are not better, cheaper, or more efficient. If they were better, they would be pushing fossil fuels out the door, without government help. But they are not.

What they have become, is a political tool for the left. A tool used to give the government more power. That is their primary function. For all we know, energy from solar and wind may not get much better than they are now. They might never replace fossil fuels.

Actually they are pushing fossil fuels out the door and fast. That’s because they are cheaper now. See post #142.

BNEF says solar and wind are now cheapest sources of new energy generation for majority of planet

BNEF says solar and wind are now cheapest sources of new energy generation for majority of planet Wind Power - Renewable Energy World

www.renewableenergyworld.com