[W:249]Biden Talks About Uniting The Country, Then Calls Trump Supporters "Ugly Folks"

[Conservative]

You are so clueless about this.

PPP is a combination of grant and loan. The aspect of the grant is direct government aid to businesses, and the aspect of the loan is the federal government backing the loan and that's also government intervention in the economy, and you support it because it's mostly going to white people and not to feed poor black kids in the inner city who don't go to your church.

You LOVE socialism so long as it is the "right" kind of socialism and benefits the "right" kind of people.

Trump supporters, "conservatives", and "libertarians" who think socialism is okay if it benefits certain political blocs are hypocrites and have no principles.

Everything you hear on Hannity or Tucker or from Republicans like McConnell is a LIE. It's an excuse. It's a rationalization.

Right a grant that becomes a loan if not implemented properly

Of course you love socialism as do most liberals as you don't have to work to benefit from someone else's efforts. I haven't watched Hannity or Tucker since my wife died 8 years ago, I do however go to bls.gov, bea.gov, treasury.gov and even look at my Fidelity 401k account as are apparently those 56% who claim they are better off than four years ago. Your hatred is misguided and just a diversion from your own failures.

If the shoe fits.

If you believe the issues I have posted being supported by Biden/Harris will unite the country you live in the wrong country and deserve what you get there. I am really tired of arguing with people like you who don't seem to grasp the reality that this election is all about hatred of Trump perpetuated by people like you who don't understand the private sector, don't understand the role of the Federal, State, and Local Governments, and what has driven this country to the successes that you now want to destroy, INCENTIVE.

If the shoe fits? the shoe has fit for 73 years in this country and basically 11 years in this forum but it truly has become a hate fest not a forum for honest debate, just propaganda and hate rhetoric. Time to move on to another hobby as people like you who want to convert our country into that liberal utopia have no clue as to what really made this country great, certainly not people supporting socialism and developing that entitlement mentality. None of the following made this country what it has been

Abortion

Politics of personal destruction, class envy, jealousy of what others have

Green energy

Someone else paying for your healthcare and other personal responsibility issues

Defunding police

BLM a racist organization

U.S as the world's policemen

China stealing intellectual properties and manipulating currency

Allies not paying their fair share or financial obligations to NATO

The President having power over the states and local communities violating the 10th Amendment

Higher taxes and a more massive central gov't

Open borders

Sanctuary cities

Emptying our prisons

State and local taxes deducted fully from your federal return

Public sector vs private sector

Dependence, destruction of civil liberties

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Right a grant that becomes a loan if not implemented properly

Whether it's a grant or a loan backed by the government it's still government intervention in the economy. And you're okay with this kind of government intervention because it benefits people you consider to be political allies. But this is just as much an act of socialism as anything else. The truth is you are comfortable with socialism so long as the right people benefit from it.

Of course you love socialism as do most liberals as you don't have to work to benefit from someone else's efforts.

This is socialism:

Trump's payments to farmers hit all-time high ahead of election

U.S. President Donald Trump is assuring a bumper year for farmers as the Nov. 3 election approaches, with record government subsidies projected to make up more than a third of farm income in 2020.

www.reuters.com

This is socialism:

In sign of the times, Ayn Rand Institute approved for PPP loan

The institute promoting the “laissez-faire capitalism” of writer Ayn Rand, who in the novels “Atlas Shrugged” and “The Fountainhead” introduced her philosophy of “objectivism” to millions of readers, was approved for a Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loan of up to $1 million...

www.reuters.com

This is socialism:

Grover Norquist’s Anti-Tax Group Took Money From the Paycheck Protection Program

So much for drowning the government in a bathtub.

slate.com

You support this because the people benefit from this kind of socialism are the people you identify with and sympathize with.

I haven't watched Hannity or Tucker since my wife died 8 years ago

I'm sorry your wife died.

I don't believe you are not consuming pro-Trump, "conservative" media.

I am putting "conservative" in quotes because conservatives aren't actually conservative anymore. They are fakes and hypocrites.

I do however go to bls.gov, bea.gov, treasury.gov and even look at my Fidelity 401k account as are apparently those 56% who claim they are better off than four years ago. Your hatred is misguided and just a diversion from your own failures.

I have investments in the stock market. I am also a business owner. This caricature you have in your head of Trump critics is completely wrong.

I am really tired of arguing with people like you who don't seem to grasp the reality that this election is all about hatred of Trump perpetuated by people like you who don't understand the private sector

I understand the private sector. I've always worked in the private sector. I also understand that Republicans and conservatives who think it's okay for the government to interfere in the economy to help certain political blocs, certain individuals, and certain organizations so long as this help is being directed towards the people and organizations they like or identify with in some way are hypocrites and fakes and don't actually believe in the kind of capitalist economic model they want everyone else EXCEPT THEMSELVES to adhere to.

don't understand the role of the Federal, State, and Local Governments, and what has driven this country to the successes that you now want to destroy, INCENTIVE.

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the kinds of things Biden wants to do. Biden does not want to destroy our economic model. And the people you keep voting for aren't actually real capitalists otherwise they wouldn't keep using government funds to help their business allies.

If the shoe fits? the shoe has fit for 73 years in this country and basically 11 years in this forum but it truly has become a hate fest not a forum for honest debate, just propaganda and hate rhetoric.

Like most Trump supporters you want the freedom to act like a jerk without any criticism or consequence.

When you support an administration that kidnaps children from their parents in order to terrorize immigrants from crossing the border you are participating in an evil act and deserve criticism.

When you support a political party that is doing everything possible to prevent people from voting you are participating in an evil act and deserve criticism.

You suffer from the delusion that the only that matters is your own interests and your own rights.

You suffer from the delusion that when you seek to undermine the interests of others or trample on the rights of others that you should be immune from criticism.

You will be relieved of the burden of this delusion soon when Biden wins in a landslide victory against the worst President we've ever had.

 

[Conservative]

Whether it's a grant or a loan backed by the government it's still government intervention in the economy. And you're okay with this kind of government intervention because it benefits people you consider to be political allies. But this is just as much an act of socialism as anything else. The truth is you are comfortable with socialism so long as the right people benefit from it.

you think the American people are outraged about payments to our Farmers who were hurt by China and other countries manipulating their currency? What was Biden's Plan to stop China from manipulating currency? You claim that Trump interfered in the private sector, what was the Democratic Plan for the pandemic? You think that wasn't interference? You believe the Democratic Party doesn't interfere with the private sector

I'm sorry your wife died.

I don't believe you are not consuming pro-Trump, "conservative" media.

I am putting "conservative" in quotes because conservatives aren't actually conservative anymore. They are fakes and hypocrites.

I have investments in the stock market. I am also a business owner. This caricature you have in your head of Trump critics is completely wrong.

Unlike you I will always vote for the party that promotes the private sector not one that makes every effort to destroy it, promotes class envy, jealousy and politics of personal destruction. Thank you for you comments about my wife, 40 years, three months, and 28 days of the best ride in my life, my best friend.

I understand the private sector. I've always worked in the private sector. I also understand that Republicans and conservatives who think it's okay for the government to interfere in the economy to help certain political blocs, certain individuals, and certain organizations so long as this help is being directed towards the people and organizations they like or identify with in some way are hypocrites and fakes and don't actually believe in the kind of capitalist economic model they want everyone else EXCEPT THEMSELVES to adhere to.

I have no problem ever with criticism but when criticized I require an alternative and you have offered none. I gave you the positions that I don't support and have yet to see your support for Biden. You keep making crap up like the party preventing people from voting. You apparently want the poll workers to go door to door offering people voting opportunities.

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the kinds of things Biden wants to do. Biden does not want to destroy our economic model. And the people you keep voting for aren't actually real capitalists otherwise they wouldn't keep using government funds to help their business allies.

then you tell me what Biden's programs cost, who is going to pay for them and how they promote the private sector? You tell us all why every radical socialist group in the country is supporting Biden?

Like most Trump supporters you want the freedom to act like a jerk without any criticism or consequence.

When you support an administration that kidnaps children from their parents in order to terrorize immigrants from crossing the border you are participating in an evil act and deserve criticism.

Keep buying that bullshit as if it is accurate, That has been proven wrong so many times, Obama built those cages and the fact remains many of those so called loving parents don't want their kids.

When you support a political party that is doing everything possible to prevent people from voting you are participating in an evil act and deserve criticism.

You suffer from the delusion that the only that matters is your own interests and your own rights.

You suffer from the delusion that when you seek to undermine the interests of others or trample on the rights of others that you should be immune from criticism.

You will be relieved of the burden of this delusion soon when Biden wins in a landslide victory against the worst President we've ever had.

The worst President we ever had was Obama with Biden as VP, the results show that but results don't matter to you, building hatred and propaganda does. What you believe doesn't match with reality and what you claim Biden wants to do isn't even close to what he has done in the past and what Harris will do in the future. You are simply naive, gullible, poorly informed and indoctrinated by an ideology that creates false promises but does deliver dependence.

You keep buying the liberal rhetoric and keep claiming you are a supporter of the private sector but never posting anything the left has done to promote that sector and you destroy what little credibility you ever had

I am done with people like you after today. Hope some day you grow out of that ignorance but the problem will always be when you are proven wrong on a national scale it is way too late to apologize

 

[Conservative]

Whether it's a grant or a loan backed by the government it's still government intervention in the economy. And you're okay with this kind of government intervention because it benefits people you consider to be political allies. But this is just as much an act of socialism as anything else. The truth is you are comfortable with socialism so long as the right people benefit from it.



This is socialism:

Trump's payments to farmers hit all-time high ahead of election

U.S. President Donald Trump is assuring a bumper year for farmers as the Nov. 3 election approaches, with record government subsidies projected to make up more than a third of farm income in 2020.

www.reuters.com

This is socialism:

In sign of the times, Ayn Rand Institute approved for PPP loan

The institute promoting the “laissez-faire capitalism” of writer Ayn Rand, who in the novels “Atlas Shrugged” and “The Fountainhead” introduced her philosophy of “objectivism” to millions of readers, was approved for a Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loan of up to $1 million...

www.reuters.com

This is socialism:

Grover Norquist’s Anti-Tax Group Took Money From the Paycheck Protection Program

So much for drowning the government in a bathtub.

slate.com

You support this because the people benefit from this kind of socialism are the people you identify with and sympathize with.



I'm sorry your wife died.

I don't believe you are not consuming pro-Trump, "conservative" media.

I am putting "conservative" in quotes because conservatives aren't actually conservative anymore. They are fakes and hypocrites.



I have investments in the stock market. I am also a business owner. This caricature you have in your head of Trump critics is completely wrong.



I understand the private sector. I've always worked in the private sector. I also understand that Republicans and conservatives who think it's okay for the government to interfere in the economy to help certain political blocs, certain individuals, and certain organizations so long as this help is being directed towards the people and organizations they like or identify with in some way are hypocrites and fakes and don't actually believe in the kind of capitalist economic model they want everyone else EXCEPT THEMSELVES to adhere to.



I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the kinds of things Biden wants to do. Biden does not want to destroy our economic model. And the people you keep voting for aren't actually real capitalists otherwise they wouldn't keep using government funds to help their business allies.



Like most Trump supporters you want the freedom to act like a jerk without any criticism or consequence.

When you support an administration that kidnaps children from their parents in order to terrorize immigrants from crossing the border you are participating in an evil act and deserve criticism.

When you support a political party that is doing everything possible to prevent people from voting you are participating in an evil act and deserve criticism.

You suffer from the delusion that the only that matters is your own interests and your own rights.

You suffer from the delusion that when you seek to undermine the interests of others or trample on the rights of others that you should be immune from criticism.

You will be relieved of the burden of this delusion soon when Biden wins in a landslide victory against the worst President we've ever had.

Here are a questions I would like answered

1. Pre pandemic(February 2020 and prior) were you better off than 4 years earlier and if not why not?

2. During the pandemic how can Americans benefit from any economic policies if not allowed to go back to work?

 

[Peter King]

If you believe the issues I have posted being supported by Biden/Harris will unite the country you live in the wrong country and deserve what you get there. I am really tired of arguing with people like you who don't seem to grasp the reality that this election is all about hatred of Trump perpetuated by people like you who don't understand the private sector, don't understand the role of the Federal, State, and Local Governments, and what has driven this country to the successes that you now want to destroy, INCENTIVE.

If the shoe fits? the shoe has fit for 73 years in this country and basically 11 years in this forum but it truly has become a hate fest not a forum for honest debate, just propaganda and hate rhetoric. Time to move on to another hobby as people like you who want to convert our country into that liberal utopia have no clue as to what really made this country great, certainly not people supporting socialism and developing that entitlement mentality. None of the following made this country what it has been

Yup, if the shoe fits. Trump and his Trump=extremists (not talking about regular voters but the full bus terrorizing fools) have been incredibly uncivil towards Biden and democratic politicians in general. If you get called out for that and complain about that, well then too damned bad....for you that is, I am not loosing one second of sleep for Biden correctly describing some Trump-extremists. You seem to be going off on a simple comment of mine with a diatribe of which the validity might exists in your mind but is not really reality. And Biden and Harris will not destroy the country, they will do what the voters want. You know, democracy and all that? Or is the will of the people suddenly no longer important?

And the reason it has become a hatefest is Trump, his actions, his words, his followers and people no longer letting them get away with saying everything they want to say about "the left/democrats" but then act like snowflakes when the left does the same. Sorry but not sorry.

 

[Peter King]

MY COMMENTS ARE IN RED

Abortion Abortion has been legal since decades, that some conservatives love personal freedom as long as it is not a woman's personal freedom shows that they are out of touch with reality

Politics of personal destruction, class envy, jealousy of what others have You mean the republican part of ending the middle class and installing a rich minority that decides most elections by donating billions to silence those who want to have the real American dream back?

Green energy 1. global warming 2. the US is addicted to fossil fuels and it is finite.

Someone else paying for your healthcare and other personal responsibility issues You mean like medicare and medicaid? Wow, massively unpopular things all that socialism in the US when it comes to those 2 things. And you assume have car insurance? Home owners insurance? Fire insurance? WELL that too is other people paying for your expenses if you get in an "accident/ burgled/house burned down". That is the whole principle of INSURANCE. Health care insurance makes health care much more affordable FOR ALL.

If you get cancer that has very little to do with personal responsibility issues. It has to do with BAD luck and insurance to help people out like insurances always do.

Defunding police Biden is not going to defund the police, but maybe it is time to reallocate resources. Open less prisons and more mental institutions, not have the police like a paramilitary unit but actual policing.

BLM a racist organization BLM is protesting racism, you do that BLM is often a lot of white people uniting with black people to protest institutional racism?

U.S as the world's policemen Well, if you want universal influence, a universal say in things, protect US interests around the world, well then you have to do what both republican and democratic presidents and politicians have been doing since decades.

China stealing intellectual properties and manipulating currency And sticking your head in the sand is going to change this?

Allies not paying their fair share or financial obligations to NATO I am sorry, but if you spend more than the next several countries combined at defense, you can ask yourself, is it us or is it the rest of the world who has gone crazy? Answer, it is the US military industrial complex. Politicians have been using the armed services and the military hardware producers as election tools. If your district has a big ammo company, make sure the US government gives them a HUGE contract,

And this has little to do with NATO spending but with the US wish that ALL NATO countries start spending at least 2% of GDP on their armed forces. And in 2014 it was agreed that this "GUIDELINE" (not a mandatory percentage) should be reached in 2024. And guess what. It is not 2024.

The President having power over the states and local communities violating the 10th Amendment Not going to happen, fear mongering.

Higher taxes and a more massive central gov't More taxes yes, but if you want to spend spend spend you need to tax tax tax. The GOP has spent but has not taxed, that is a foolish principle. First tax those who have been paying the least for the longest time and then you can discuss how to make the government smaller.

Open borders So under democratic presidents there was no border control? Border police? Wow, must have missed that time period. Biden is not going to "open the borders".

Sanctuary cities And? They already exist, one has to solve the problem that causes these cities so that they are emptied out and prevent creating new ones.

Emptying our prisons And this is a problem why? You know how much money you spend on warehousing non-problematic criminals? You are throwing money away and not too little.

Public sector vs private sector Both have to exist and work together, where the private sector in many things should be leading.

Dependence, destruction of civil liberties social and protecting other people's civil liberties IMO.

 

[Mr Person]

The Biden campaign is pushing the narrative, in the last week before the election, that America will "unite" under his leadership.

I'm wondering if this unity is going to happen before, or after, he refers to Trump supporters as "ugly folks"?
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Boo Hoo.

You Trumpists have said infinitely worse about the false image of the left Fox painted for you.

Hell, even as people were urging protective measures to avoid your dying from COVID, you lot accused the the left of perpetrating a hoax as part of a plot to steal your freedoms. Criminal elements use protests as cover, and you use that to attack the idea that black peoples' lives matter just as much as anyone else's. Biden was being nice, if you think about it.

 

[Conservative]

Yup, if the shoe fits. Trump and his Trump=extremists (not talking about regular voters but the full bus terrorizing fools) have been incredibly uncivil towards Biden and democratic politicians in general. If you get called out for that and complain about that, well then too damned bad....for you that is, I am not loosing one second of sleep for Biden correctly describing some Trump-extremists. You seem to be going off on a simple comment of mine with a diatribe of which the validity might exists in your mind but is not really reality. And Biden and Harris will not destroy the country, they will do what the voters want. You know, democracy and all that? Or is the will of the people suddenly no longer important?

And the reason it has become a hatefest is Trump, his actions, his words, his followers and people no longer letting them get away with saying everything they want to say about "the left/democrats" but then act like snowflakes when the left does the same. Sorry but not sorry.

I don't think you have a lot of credibility, solve your own problems and stop blaming Trump for policies that you cannot change or vote against. What you and the left are proving is that hate sells and your anal exam of Trump rhetoric ignores the anti Trump rhetoric and attacks since day one of taking office