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Biden: minorities don’t know how to get online

Let's not be obtuse here. Had this been a leading Republican saying exactly the same words it would have been branded as "racism" and just another expression of "white supremacy."

Ummmm....excuse me?

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Linda Taylor, a professional criminal who wound up being used as a prop in Ronald Reagan's well worn "Welfare Queen" trope all through the 70's, 80's, 90's and even today, by a long succession of Republicans.

Don't use terms like obtuse that you don't understand, and especially don't use them for projection.
 
From what I can tell on my town FB page and in my own family, senior citizens are having issues navigating appointments as well. Is that racist towards old white people? Or just reality?
 
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He said urban and rural black and hispanic people don't know how to use the internet. How is that "communities of color?" That's everybody.
That is not what he said. But a black man responded to Biden's remarks in a Meme. In the background you can hear what Biden was saying because it is on the TV playing in the background.

 
From what I can tell on my town FB page and in my own family, senior citizens are having issues navigating appointments as well. Is that racist towards old white people? Or just reality?
I'm one of them and I'm not insulted. It's reality.
 
Making reference to the fact that communities of color are underserved in broadband access and own less devices to access the internet is this unexpected? Quit trying to say President Biden said poc are not able to make appointments because of lack of intelligence.

I think “minorities have less access to broadband” is quite different from “minorities don’t know how to get online."

One is a fact for which evidence can be provided. The other is not. It’s a sweeping negative generalization about their capabilities for which there is no evidence.

In terms of how things like this should be handled, are you casting your vote for “Everyone should bend over backward to find a charitable explanation when politicians make racist comments?"
 
I think “minorities have less access to broadband” is quite different from “minorities don’t know how to get online."

One is a fact for which evidence can be provided. The other is not.
Fine, but you are unable to duplicate the tone or context of what was said in written quotes. So what you think really matters to...you.
 
Here are some stats on internet usage I dug up.

Not sure how to display the charts in a link, but if you look at this you can see there is no appreciable difference between races in “internet usage”. There is a difference in wether they have access to household broadband, but not sure what relevance that has here.

Note it might be fair to say “old people” don’t know how to get online. The data here seem to offer some support for that. But not for what Biden said.

 
Liberals always demonstrate that they are the true bigots. They are always telling us that blacks don't have the ability to achieve anything on their own merits.
 
Fine, but you are unable to duplicate the tone or context of what was said in written quotes. So what you think really matters to...you.

There’s a video linked there champ. The tone is Biden rambling semi-coherently and saying racially offensive things. Not for the first time.
 
That is not what he said. But a black man responded to Biden's remarks in a Meme. In the background you can hear what Biden was saying because it is on the TV playing in the background.



Hah, that’s brilliant. I bet Saturday Night live and Jimmy Kimmel did something like that too, right?

Oh wait probably not. The wokesters didn’t really pay much attention to it.

And here they’re even defending it!
 
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What Biden said is accurate

False. Rates of internet usage in the Black and Hispanic community are negligibly different than in the white community. See data I posted a couple posts back.
 
There’s a video linked there champ. The tone is Biden rambling semi-coherently and saying racially offensive things. Not for the first time.
I see how you can interpret it that way. President Biden does stumble. Having said that, it started as a 'they don't know how to register...'. I am not in either of those groups, am online in a variety of ways and the registration process for the vaccine is not user friendly.

Semi-coherent? I understood it perfectly.
Racially offensive? I can see how people would be offended by that statement.
Not for the first time? Exactly. He's done this before. Do you believe President Biden makes this error because he is an overt racist? Or do you think he is an old white guy that has benefited from the racist power structures that prop up the white male in American society and just can't get the 'woke' verbiage right?
 
Isn't Biden contradicting himself? Last year he said "poor kids are just as smart as white kids."
 
Biden's always been a racist. He first ran for office specifically as a racial segregationist.
 
So, my question is: Are the people here who are usually mobilized for social justice OK with this? Is this how they want politician’s (even President’s) comments like this handled by the media?
The "get online" part is irrelevant, the quote is about registering to get the vaccine. If I say I don't know how to drive to Walmart, it doesn't mean I don't know how to drive, it means I don't know where Walmart is. Many people don't know how/where to register and if you want to help a particular group, then raising their awareness is key. That doesn't mean they couldn't figure it out on their own, but most people have other things to do in their lives and a long list of things they should be doing. Making it easier for them can make a big difference for anyone.

As someone who used to work on web optimization, I can tell you that the number of interested people that miss out on vital information can be huge and it has little to do with how intelligent they are and everything to do with how poorly the information was presented.
 
I see how you can interpret it that way. President Biden does stumble. Having said that, it started as a 'they don't know how to register...'. I am not in either of those groups, am online in a variety of ways and the registration process for the vaccine is not user friendly.

Semi-coherent? I understood it perfectly.
Racially offensive? I can see how people would be offended by that statement.
Not for the first time? Exactly. He's done this before. Do you believe President Biden makes this error because he is an overt racist? Or do you think he is an old white guy that has benefited from the racist power structures that prop up the white male in American society and just can't get the 'woke' verbiage right?

Well, he keeps saying racially offensive things. What *should* I take from that?

This one’s probably not as bad as calling Obama “clean” or saying "you can’t go into a 7-11 without a slight Indian accent" in the Biden collection of work. Maybe more in line with “if you don’t vote for me you ain’t Black”. I don’t know. How many racist comments does a politician get a pass on?

In any case, my point was to ask if people want the media to ignore it when a politician says racially offensive things and generally go out of their way to find the most charitable interpretation.

It seems like that’s what some people here want. But it didn’t seem that way before. What changed?
 
The "get online" part is irrelevant, the quote is about registering to get the vaccine. If I say I don't know how to drive to Walmart, it doesn't mean I don't know how to drive, it means I don't know where Walmart is. Many people don't know how/where to register and if you want to help a particular group, then raising their awareness is key. That doesn't mean they couldn't figure it out on their own, but most people have other things to do in their lives and a long list of things they should be doing. Making it easier for them can make a big difference for anyone.

As someone who used to work on web optimization, I can tell you that the number of interested people that miss out on vital information can be huge and it has little to do with how intelligent they are and everything to do with how poorly the information was presented.

If the Pew data shows about as many Blacks and Hispanics get online as Whites (and it’s up around 90% for all groups) what would lead someone to believe Blacks and Hispanics “don’t know how to get on line”?

And why would anyone defend the accuracy of it?
 
Let's not be obtuse here. Had this been a leading Republican saying exactly the same words it would have been branded as "racism" and just another expression of "white supremacy."
It certainly would have. It was terrible. I was watching as he did it and just shaking my head as he dug deeper and deeper.
 
If the Pew data shows about as many Blacks and Hispanics get online as Whites (and it’s up around 90% for all groups) what would lead someone to believe Blacks and Hispanics “don’t know how to get on line”?

And why would anyone defend the accuracy of it?

I suspect that if the PEW study was related to being proficient at navigating State and Hospital website prompts to qualify for a vaccine, complete registration information and search for an appointment, the data would probably not be supportive to your assertions.
 
I suspect that if the PEW study was related to being proficient at navigating State and Hospital website prompts to qualify for a vaccine, complete registration information and search for an appointment, the data would probably not be supportive to your assertions.

We are not talking about my assertions here we are talking about Biden’s assertion that people in minority communities don’t know how to get online. I think showing the internet usage in minority communities being similar to the internet usage among whites disproves that assertion 100% conclusively.

In any case, this thread (including the OP) contains examples of people in the minority community clearly taking offense to it. Isn’t that enough for you? Or do you know better than the people in the minority community what offends minorities?

Maybe you could whitesplain to them why it’s not offensive to say they don’t know how to get online.
 
If the Pew data shows about as many Blacks and Hispanics get online as Whites (and it’s up around 90% for all groups) what would lead someone to believe Blacks and Hispanics “don’t know how to get on line”?

And why would anyone defend the accuracy of it?
As I just explained, that interpretation is a misunderstanding/misrepresentation of the full quote. Nobody, including Joe Biden is actually saying that POC don't know how to get online at all he said many of them didn't know how to get online AND register. The "get online" part only appears significant when it appears on its own and not part of the complete sentence.
 
We are not talking about my assertions here we are talking about Biden’s assertion that people in minority communities don’t know how to get online. I think showing the internet usage in minority communities being similar to the internet usage among whites disproves that assertion 100% conclusively.

In any case, this thread (including the OP) contains examples of people in the minority community clearly taking offense to it. Isn’t that enough for you? Or do you know better than the people in the minority community what offends minorities?

Maybe you could whitesplain to them why it’s not offensive to say they don’t know how to get online.

You are using the Pew study in the thread, not me. I am just pointing out that telling a Pew researcher that you "use the computer" or "get online" whatever those mean, is not comparable to the challenges of scheduling a vaccine online.

As I mentioned above, senior citizens are also having issues. Is recognizing that issue racist or reality?
 
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This happened a few days back but I was surprised I had not heard about it after so many years of the media pouncing on opportunities to call anyone they could a racist for saying things like this. There were also some comments about 3 out of every 5 commercials on TV having an interracial couple which I’d think the uberwoke would find pretty cringeworthy.

I checked back a few pages and saw nothing about it here, which I guess isn’t surprising I suppose given the lack of coverage it got. This occurred in the same town hall where Biden said there was no vaccine when he took office and said the Chinese treatment of the Uighurs was "just their culture” and I did hear about those, so I guess some people were watching.

With a little googling I did find a couple fox news videos that mentioned it, but to avoid the inevitable “zmfog FOX NEWS!!!!!!” posts that follow posting a story from there I looked bit more until I found the story above.

Interestingly, it’s from “The Source” which describes itself as a "magazine of hip hop culture”. And they managed to get some coverage on it even as they must have been in all hands on deck mode with the Kim/Kanye divorce.

So, my question is: Are the people here who are usually mobilized for social justice OK with this? Is this how they want politician’s (even President’s) comments like this handled by the media?
President Biden wasn't too far wrong....


"...Older Black Americans, for instance, are less likely to have a computer in the home, he said, and states across the country are using email and web portals to sign-up for vaccination, as well as to convey critical information.​
Many of these sites are complicated to use, and it is also hard to make an appointment online. "You may have to stay online for hours, or be on the phone for hours," said Dr. Belinda Alexander, an internal medicine specialist at Memorial Hospital in Gulfport, Mississippi, who has been working to ease anxieties surrounding the vaccine in minority communities...."​
 
Well, he keeps saying racially offensive things. What *should* I take from that?

This one’s probably not as bad as calling Obama “clean” or saying "you can’t go into a 7-11 without a slight Indian accent" in the Biden collection of work. Maybe more in line with “if you don’t vote for me you ain’t Black”. I don’t know. How many racist comments does a politician get a pass on?

In any case, my point was to ask if people want the media to ignore it when a politician says racially offensive things and generally go out of their way to find the most charitable interpretation.

It seems like that’s what some people here want. But it didn’t seem that way before. What changed?
Do you believe President Biden is an overt racist? Do you think I should consider these to be the same as overtly racist statements like "criminals and rapists" or "shithole countries" or "kung-flu"? Is that the point you are trying to make?
 
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