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Biden leads Trump nationally by 9 points, with suburbs focused on coronavirus, not crime: poll

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Biden leads Trump nationally by 9 points, with suburbs focused on coronavirus, not crime: Reuters/Ipsos poll | Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden leads Republican President Donald Trump nationally among likely U.S. voters by 9 percentage points, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that showed Trump’s “law and order” message falling short with its target audience of suburban voters.

The Sept. 11-15 opinion poll, released on Wednesday, found that 50% of likely voters said they were casting their ballots for Biden while 41% were doing the same for Trump. Another 3% said they would support a third-party candidate and the rest were undecided.

The poll also showed that most American voters were locked in on their choice for president. Nine out of 10 likely Biden voters and 8 out of 10 likely Trump voters said they were “completely certain” about their choice for president. Only 1 in 10 likely Biden voters and fewer than 2 in 10 likely Trump voters appeared to be wavering in their choice.

The poll suggests that Biden has an early advantage in securing the national popular vote in the Nov. 3 presidential election. Still, 9% of likely voters are undecided or have not yet supported either major-party candidate. Their decision in coming weeks could determine who wins.

Winning the national popular vote does not necessarily mean winning the election, which is decided by the state-by-state Electoral College system. Trump won in 2016 despite losing the popular vote.

Trump, who has trailed Biden in most national surveys this year, has spent recent months trying to refocus his campaign on the anti-racism protests that have spread across the country following the killing of African Americans including George Floyd in confrontations with police.
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Trump has done virtually nothing to stem the spread of the virus. Despite civil unrest in certain cities, most people are focused on the virus.
 
a Reuters/Ipsos poll that showed Trump’s “law and order” message falling short with its target audience of suburban voters.
Was this a poll question, or just BS?
 
Was this a poll question, or just BS?

Republican messaging around "BLM rioters and looters coming to burn down the suburbs" isn't playing with voters, as proven by the fact that polls haven't moved in Trump's favor since they adopted it.
 
He should dust off the caravan again, maybe that one will work this time.
 
Republican messaging around "BLM rioters and looters coming to burn down the suburbs" isn't playing with voters, as proven by the fact that polls haven't moved in Trump's favor since they adopted it.
Lots of issues are having simultaneous impact. Your claim is not logical - non sequitur.
 
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden leads Republican President Donald Trump nationally among likely U.S. voters by 9 percentage points, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that showed Trump’s “law and order” message falling short with its target audience of suburban voters.

The Sept. 11-15 opinion poll, released on Wednesday, found that 50% of likely voters said they were casting their ballots for Biden while 41% were doing the same for Trump. Another 3% said they would support a third-party candidate and the rest were undecided.

The poll also showed that most American voters were locked in on their choice for president. Nine out of 10 likely Biden voters and 8 out of 10 likely Trump voters said they were “completely certain” about their choice for president. Only 1 in 10 likely Biden voters and fewer than 2 in 10 likely Trump voters appeared to be wavering in their choice.

The poll suggests that Biden has an early advantage in securing the national popular vote in the Nov. 3 presidential election. Still, 9% of likely voters are undecided or have not yet supported either major-party candidate. Their decision in coming weeks could determine who wins.

Winning the national popular vote does not necessarily mean winning the election, which is decided by the state-by-state Electoral College system. Trump won in 2016 despite losing the popular vote.

Trump, who has trailed Biden in most national surveys this year, has spent recent months trying to refocus his campaign on the anti-racism protests that have spread across the country following the killing of African Americans including George Floyd in confrontations with police.

Trump has done virtually nothing to stem the spread of the virus. Despite civil unrest in certain cities, most people are focused on the virus.

Was this another Reuters online only poll, which underrepresents rural voters with less average internet access?

Rasmussen now has Trump leading nationally by 1 point. Fox and RMG have Biden’s lead down to 5 points.
 
Lots of issues are having simultaneous impact. Your claim is not logical - non sequitur.

The only people that buy the "BLM rioters and looters are coming to burn down the suburbs" are people that were already going to vote for Trump. It would be like Biden basing their campaign message around climate change, anyone that would be motivated by that would already be voting for Biden anyway.
 
Republicans tried that messaging to improve his polls. It didn't work.
Really?

Rasmussen how has Trump winning the national popular vote by 1 point.

Biden’s RCP lead is down to +6.2, the lowest it’s been since the pandemic hit.

Try to use your favorite conspiracy theory line on this one lol.
 
Really?

Rasmussen how has Trump winning the national popular vote by 1 point.

Biden’s RCP lead is down to +6.2, the lowest it’s been since the pandemic hit.

Try to use your favorite conspiracy theory line on this one lol.

Rasmussen LOL
 
Lots of issues are having simultaneous impact. Your claim is not logical - non sequitur.

How do you mean? Trump has been running on one campaign theme - LOR AND ORDER. Biden soft, Trump strong. And yet the public favors Biden on these issues.

Trump is still drowning and each day that ticks by without his message penetrating...tick tock. :)
 
Biden leads Trump nationally by 9 points, with suburbs focused on coronavirus, not crime: Reuters/Ipsos poll | Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden leads Republican President Donald Trump nationally among likely U.S. voters by 9 percentage points, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that showed Trump’s “law and order” message falling short with its target audience of suburban voters.

The Sept. 11-15 opinion poll, released on Wednesday, found that 50% of likely voters said they were casting their ballots for Biden while 41% were doing the same for Trump. Another 3% said they would support a third-party candidate and the rest were undecided.

The poll also showed that most American voters were locked in on their choice for president. Nine out of 10 likely Biden voters and 8 out of 10 likely Trump voters said they were “completely certain” about their choice for president. Only 1 in 10 likely Biden voters and fewer than 2 in 10 likely Trump voters appeared to be wavering in their choice.

The poll suggests that Biden has an early advantage in securing the national popular vote in the Nov. 3 presidential election. Still, 9% of likely voters are undecided or have not yet supported either major-party candidate. Their decision in coming weeks could determine who wins.

Winning the national popular vote does not necessarily mean winning the election, which is decided by the state-by-state Electoral College system. Trump won in 2016 despite losing the popular vote.

Trump, who has trailed Biden in most national surveys this year, has spent recent months trying to refocus his campaign on the anti-racism protests that have spread across the country following the killing of African Americans including George Floyd in confrontations with police.
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Trump has done virtually nothing to stem the spread of the virus. Despite civil unrest in certain cities, most people are focused on the virus.

It's in the bag for Harris, no path to 270..


But don't let up, keep burning cities and raping women - it's clearly working....
 
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Rasmussen was the most accurate polling firm the last time Trump was a candidate. ;)

Something to keep in mind.

Rasmussen predicted that Clinton would win the popular vote by 2 percentage points in a four-way race. Is that what you're thinking of?

They were of course more inaccurate on the vote shares in 2016 than ABC / Washington Post who currently has Biden up significantly. Would you like to brag about that poll too given how accurate it was in 2016?
 
Republican messaging around "BLM rioters and looters coming to burn down the suburbs" isn't playing with voters, as proven by the fact that polls haven't moved in Trump's favor since they adopted it.

democrat definitely need to continue the terrorist attacks. America LOVES the looting and burning.

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Trump is underwater in virtually every swing state.

???

Biden being up by 1 or 2 points, in polls which lean liberal, is basically Trump winning.

And several swing states show Trump winning per RCP.

Trump has Texas, Georgia, and Iowa nailed down, and I think he also has Florida, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina nailed down as well.
 
Rasmussen was the most accurate polling firm the last time Trump was a candidate. ;)

Something to keep in mind.

And totally crapped the bed in the 2018 mid-terms

Donald Trump's favorite pollster was the least accurate in the midterms - CNNPolitics

"Rasmussen's final poll was the least accurate of any of the 32 polls. They had the Republicans ahead nationally by one point. Democrats are currently winning the national House vote by 8.6 points. That's an error of nearly 10 points.

Of course, it's possible for any pollster to have one inaccurate poll. Fortunately, for statistical purposes, Rasmussen released three generic ballot polls in the final three weeks of the 2018 campaign.
The average Rasmussen poll had Democrats ahead by 1.7 points on the generic ballot. That's an underestimation of their eventual position of nearly 7 points. This made Rasmussen's average poll more inaccurate than any other pollster"
 
???

Biden being up by 1 or 2 points, in polls which lean liberal, is basically Trump winning.

And several swing states show Trump winning per RCP.

I dunno what to tell you. If wishes were fishes you’d swim in a great big ocean, Reub.
 
And totally crapped the bed in the 2018 mid-terms

Donald Trump's favorite pollster was the least accurate in the midterms - CNNPolitics

"Rasmussen's final poll was the least accurate of any of the 32 polls. They had the Republicans ahead nationally by one point. Democrats are currently winning the national House vote by 8.6 points. That's an error of nearly 10 points.

Of course, it's possible for any pollster to have one inaccurate poll. Fortunately, for statistical purposes, Rasmussen released three generic ballot polls in the final three weeks of the 2018 campaign.
The average Rasmussen poll had Democrats ahead by 1.7 points on the generic ballot. That's an underestimation of their eventual position of nearly 7 points. This made Rasmussen's average poll more inaccurate than any other pollster"

Remember, this occurred when Trump was NOT a candidate. And there wasn't an issue with rural voters being underrepresented in polls.

Populism throws off liberal pollsters.
 
I dunno what to tell you. If wishes were fishes you’d swim in a great big ocean, Reub.

Well, we have a month and a half left to go.

I think Trump has Georgia, Texas, Iowa, North Carolina, Florida, and Pennsylvania nailed down.

And his numbers with Hispanic voters are getting better and better.
 
Remember, this occurred when Trump was NOT a candidate. And there wasn't an issue with rural voters being underrepresented in polls.

Populism throws off liberal pollsters.

Populism is a disease.
 
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