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Biden is not serious about getting the debt under control

If we are going to compare economics to economics and humanity you would need to, literally, adopt the law of the jungle. Antelope with a bad knee don't fare well in the wild.

Ultimately we do have a problem in this country, and most of the modern world honestly, where we are encouraging or at least supporting the worst behaviors and outcomes. We are encouraging people who can't afford and are ill equipped to raise children to have litters of them. We support stupidity endlessly. It raises a giant question of humanities future that looks more like Idiocracy than anything else. Smart hard working people have 1-2 kids at 30. Illiterate unemployable morons have 7 starting at 17. The curve is brutal.
 
It's an interesting concept: an ethic for the environment would be similar to an ethic for the economy.
 
weaver2 said:
It's an interesting concept: an ethic for the environment would be similar to an ethic for the economy.
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I think there are a lot of interesting parallels and problems.

This is something we are going to see in the environment for the next few decades rather acutely. You will see wealthy developed nations transition away from fossil fuels and export their pollution to third world countries. Then, the third world countries will make a mess and say they have the same right to make a mess since that is all they can afford. A great example is look at the long term oil demand curve globally. It keeps going up even with advances in renewables and batteries. Why? Asia and Africa basically. Africa is expected to see the largest population gains globally for the next 20-30 years, in a land that cannot support the population, that is piss poor.
 
bave said:
Africa is expected to see the largest population gains globally for the next 20-30 years, in a land that cannot support the population, that is piss poor.
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We have a social-medical-religious foreign policy that is exacerbating that particular situation. And many African countries have a religion that adds further to the problem.Eventually their problem will become a major problem for us.
 
weaver2 said:
We have a social-medical-religious foreign policy that is exacerbating that particular situation. And many African countries have a religion that adds further to the problem.Eventually their problem will become a major problem for us.
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Honestly, we have to stop getting involved in global issues honestly, unless it becomes a threat to us. The hard reality is that we can't keep being the policeman/grocery store/fireman for the world. Africa and the middle east will explode in violence, huge numbers of people will die, and we need to stay out of it.
 
bave said:
Honestly, we have to stop getting involved in global issues honestly, unless it becomes a threat to us. The hard reality is that we can't keep being the policeman/grocery store/fireman for the world. Africa and the middle east will explode in violence, huge numbers of people will die, and we need to stay out of it.
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Are you certain we will be politically and physically able to remain on the side lines?

We thought the problems United Fruit was creating in Central America wouldn't involve us. Nor did we think the problems organized crime and banks were creating in Central and South America would ever cross the border into the US. But we were wrong. We may be wrong about Africa. We've already been wrong about the MiddleEast.
 
weaver2 said:
Are you certain we will be politically and physically able to remain on the side lines?

We thought the problems United Fruit was creating in Central America wouldn't involve us. Nor did we think the problems organized crime and banks were creating in Central and South America would ever cross the border into the US. But we were wrong. We may be wrong about Africa. We've already been wrong about the MiddleEast.
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Americans have a long history of not giving a shit what happens in Africa. Millions die there every year and no one cares. No oil. No threat. We kill some muslims there as we see fit and then we bounce. That's not going to change. The only reason we are in the Mid-east is because of oil, once that oil isn't economically important to us then it will just be Africa part 2.
 
bave said:
Americans have a long history of not giving a shit what happens in Africa. Millions die there every year and no one cares. No oil. No threat. We kill some muslims there as we see fit and then we bounce. That's not going to change. The only reason we are in the Mid-east is because of oil, once that oil isn't economically important to us then it will just be Africa part 2.
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Africa has 16% of the world's population. 1,216,000,000 hungry, angry people may be hard to ignore. Just saying.
 
Conservatives have been creating big debt with Supply Side Economics that represent the big tax dollar give aways which are backed with loans from Wall Street Banks and such. Borrow Borrow Borrow recklessly and spend spend spend recklessly.

The epitome of tax dollar money holes.
 
weaver2 said:
Africa has 16% of the world's population. 1,216,000,000 hungry, angry people may be hard to ignore. Just saying.
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We have been ignoring them for decades
 
Razoo said:
Conservatives have been creating big debt with Supply Side Economics that represent the big tax dollar give aways which are backed with loans from Wall Street Banks and such. Borrow Borrow Borrow recklessly and spend spend spend recklessly.

The epitome of tax dollar money holes.
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lol.

Entitlement programs are where the money disappears, let me know where those are coming from.
 
bave said:
We have been ignoring them for decades
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Their population growth rate is the highest in the world. It increases 2.7% every year. They will reach 2B by 2025. There's a difference between migration and emigration. One can be controlled.
 
weaver2 said:
Their population growth rate is the highest in the world. It increases 2.7% every year. They will reach 2B by 2025. There's a difference between migration and emigration. One can be controlled.
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Long swim from Africa. Europe has a problem though, yup.

It's funny, they have strong opinions about us restricting the flow of illegals from Mexico and Central America, but suddenly they have a lot of concerns about the bazillions of immigrants from Africa landing on their shores.
 
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