Biden contradicted himself

[George50]

I got quite a chuckle out of this when Biden said it last night:

I don't look at this in terms of the way he does, blue states and red states, they're all the United States and look at the states that are having such a spike in the coronavirus. They're the red states, they're the states in the Midwest, they're the states in the upper Midwest, that's where the spike is occurring significantly.​

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Did you chuckle about this one too?

“"I take full responsibility. It's not my fault that it came here. It's China's fault.”

 

[MTAtech]

I got quite a chuckle out of this when Biden said it last night:

I don't look at this in terms of the way he does, blue states and red states, they're all the United States and look at the states that are having such a spike in the coronavirus. They're the red states, they're the states in the Midwest, they're the states in the upper Midwest, that's where the spike is occurring significantly.​

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The thread was derailed on the second post.
This is what he was talking about:


Regarding contradiction, we can play that game all day long -- like pointing out the contradiction of the guy who says he wants nothing more but to release his taxes, whose been suing in the courts to keep his taxes secret. Or the same guy, who tells blacks that he's done more from them since Lincoln but tells suburban women to be afraid of Biden, because he'll allow scary black people into their neighborhoods. Or the guy who said he takes responsibility for Covid and in the same breathe blames it on China.

 

[MTAtech]

That That Biden's policies are all geared toward big blue cities, not the United States of America

Oh really? You mean blue states like West Virginia, that voted 70% for Trump? West Virginia has a third of the population on Medicaid, a program Trump is hostile to. Their rural hospitals are dependent upon Medicaid and the ACA. Many rural hospitals will close if the ACA is no more. This is true for most red states. After the ACA was passed and Kentucky expanded Medicaid, they experiences a two-thirds drop in the uninsurance rate.

In 2019, The Washington Post published a heart-rending description of a pop-up medical clinic in Cleveland, Tenn., a temporary installation providing free care for two days on a first-come-first-served basis. Hundreds of people showed up many hours before the clinic opened, because rural America is suffering from a severe crisis of health care availability, with hospitals closing and doctors leaving.

Since the focus of the report was on personal experience, not policy, it’s understandable that the article mentioned only in passing the fact that Tennessee is one of the 14 states that still refuse to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act. So I’m not sure how many people grasped the reality that America’s rural health care crisis is largely, not entirely, but largely, a direct result of Republican political decisions. Biden's plan to provide a public option would alleviate much of this crisis in rural (red) America.

 

[Greenbeard]

I laughed when Biden called him Abe Lincoln.

I laughed when an obviously-confused Trump didn't get it and needed the joke explained to him.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

I laughed when an obviously-confused Trump didn't get it and needed the joke explained to him.

Then he still did not get it.

 

[Drawdown]

Oh really? You mean blue states like West Virginia, that voted 70% for Trump? West Virginia has a third of the population on Medicaid, a program Trump is hostile to. Their rural hospitals are dependent upon Medicaid and the ACA. Many rural hospitals will close if the ACA is no more. This is true for most red states. After the ACA was passed and Kentucky expanded Medicaid, they experiences a two-thirds drop in the uninsurance rate.

In 2019, The Washington Post published a heart-rending description of a pop-up medical clinic in Cleveland, Tenn., a temporary installation providing free care for two days on a first-come-first-served basis. Hundreds of people showed up many hours before the clinic opened, because rural America is suffering from a severe crisis of health care availability, with hospitals closing and doctors leaving.

Since the focus of the report was on personal experience, not policy, it’s understandable that the article mentioned only in passing the fact that Tennessee is one of the 14 states that still refuse to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act. So I’m not sure how many people grasped the reality that America’s rural health care crisis is largely, not entirely, but largely, a direct result of Republican political decisions. Biden's plan to provide a public option would alleviate much of this crisis in rural (red) America.

Obamacare accelerated the closure of rural hospitals. Perhaps you should think a little more about why your heart rending description happened.

 

[Drawdown]

Nonsense. Climate change is a good example. No one is impacted by climate change more than farmers. Forest fires primarily impact rural areas.

Nonsense. $15 MW will destroy small town small businesses. They don't have the money to support it. Obama's waters of the US rule would have destroyed midwest ranchers had Trump not reversed it.

 

[Greenbeard]

Obamacare accelerated the closure of rural hospitals. Perhaps you should think a little more about why your heart rending description happened.

Exactly the opposite.

Study Documents How Medicaid Expansion Helps Keep Rural Hospitals Open

Comprehensive research in the journal Health Affairs was recently published looking at the effect of state Medicaid expansions on hospital closures. Focusing on especially rural hospitals, the auth…

ccf.georgetown.edu

Medicaid expansion key indicator for rural hospitals' financial viability

Other factors that play a positive role include tax-exempt status and occupancy rates, according to a study in Health Affairs.

www.healthcaredive.com

Medicaid expansion boosts rural hospitals' margins

The median overall profit margin among not-for-profit critical-access hospitals in Medicaid expansion states increased from 1.8% to 3.7%, compared with a decrease from 3.5% to 2.8% among their peers in non-expansion states, a new study found.

www.modernhealthcare.com

72 Percent of All Rural Hospital Closures Are in States That Rejected the Medicaid Expansion

States that refused Obamacare's Medicaid expansion are hemorrhaging hospitals in rural areas.

www.gq.com

 

[Drawdown]

Exactly the opposite.

Study Documents How Medicaid Expansion Helps Keep Rural Hospitals Open

Comprehensive research in the journal Health Affairs was recently published looking at the effect of state Medicaid expansions on hospital closures. Focusing on especially rural hospitals, the auth…

ccf.georgetown.edu

Medicaid expansion key indicator for rural hospitals' financial viability

Other factors that play a positive role include tax-exempt status and occupancy rates, according to a study in Health Affairs.

www.healthcaredive.com

Medicaid expansion boosts rural hospitals' margins

The median overall profit margin among not-for-profit critical-access hospitals in Medicaid expansion states increased from 1.8% to 3.7%, compared with a decrease from 3.5% to 2.8% among their peers in non-expansion states, a new study found.

www.modernhealthcare.com

72 Percent of All Rural Hospital Closures Are in States That Rejected the Medicaid Expansion

States that refused Obamacare's Medicaid expansion are hemorrhaging hospitals in rural areas.

www.gq.com

Lots of links none of it addresses that the reason their demise accelerated was due in no small part to Obamacare reallocating funds for the treatment of the uninsured from them to free birth control for women making %70K+ a year

 

[MTAtech]

Obamacare accelerated the closure of rural hospitals. Perhaps you should think a little more about why your heart rending description happened.

Show your work. Greenbeard completely discredited your assertion. In response, you provide nothing to back up your assertion.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Obamacare accelerated the closure of rural hospitals. Perhaps you should think a little more about why your heart rending description happened.

The ACA made temporary hospitals like that one no longer needed. People could finally get health care at real medical facilities.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Lots of links none of it addresses that the reason their demise accelerated was due in no small part to Obamacare reallocating funds for the treatment of the uninsured from them to free birth control for women making %70K+ a year

If any of your claims are true, you already have proof from totally unbiased scientific sources that only exist to provide factual information, not push an agenda. So let us see it.

 

[Acadia]

That That Biden's policies are all geared toward big blue cities, not the United States of America

From the administration that sneered at Red States clinging to their bibles and guns.

 

[JANFU]

I got quite a chuckle out of this when Biden said it last night:

I don't look at this in terms of the way he does, blue states and red states, they're all the United States and look at the states that are having such a spike in the coronavirus. They're the red states, they're the states in the Midwest, they're the states in the upper Midwest, that's where the spike is occurring significantly.​

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Trump must have you in stitches?

 

[ludin]

Yeah, but in the context of the actual quote he didn't really. Though I don't expect partisans to generally go for context.

lmao the irony here cannot be missed folks. leftists hypocrisy is an amazing thing to before.

 

[upsideguy]

I got quite a chuckle out of this when Biden said it last night:

I don't look at this in terms of the way he does, blue states and red states, they're all the United States and look at the states that are having such a spike in the coronavirus. They're the red states, they're the states in the Midwest, they're the states in the upper Midwest, that's where the spike is occurring significantly.​

It pales in comparison to "...I take full responsibility .... it's China's fault..."

Trump on Covid-19: "I take full responsibility. It’s not my fault."

Trump almost took responsibility. Then he didn’t.

www.vox.com

Trump must have you in stitches?

Naw, Trump tends to have people on ventilators....

 

[Greenbeard]

Lots of links none of it addresses that the reason their demise accelerated was due in no small part to Obamacare reallocating funds for the treatment of the uninsured from them to free birth control for women making %70K+ a year

 

[Ikari]

lmao the irony here cannot be missed folks. leftists hypocrisy is an amazing thing to before.

Oh I'm sorry, taking things out of context is OK then? I'll try to remember that the next time y'all get upset over something.

 

[ClaraD]

That That Biden's policies are all geared toward big blue cities, not the United States of America

Actually during the times that Biden has been in office, especially in the Senate he proved to be a moderate that was able to work with Republicans...but don't let facts get in the way.

 

[ClaraD]

Nonsense. $15 MW will destroy small town small businesses. They don't have the money to support it. Obama's waters of the US rule would have destroyed midwest ranchers had Trump not reversed it.

It hasn't where it has been implemented.

 

[ClaraD]

Obamacare accelerated the closure of rural hospitals. Perhaps you should think a little more about why your heart rending description happened.

Really now? It sure seems to be helping Regional Medical Center here in Orangeburg County, South Carolina...

 

[ttwtt78640]

It was a gaff...

I don't see red states, blue states... But those red states....

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The real problem is that Joe Biden does not see states as having the (constitutional?) authority to differ from his wishes. He Intends to “unite them” to do as he wishes under the control of the federal government.

 

[ttwtt78640]

It hasn't where it has been implemented.

That is a nice assertion, but with the exception of DC (not a state) no state currently has a $15/hour MW. A disturbing trend is developing whereby MW differs based on the size (number of employees) of the business. MW is then no longer that every worker must be paid at least $X/hour - it then varies based not on their job duties, but on how many co-workers they currently have.

Minimum Wage by State 2022 and 2023 Changes

Nearly half of the U.S. states increased minimum wages for hourly workers in 2022 and more than a dozen will provide additional increases going into 2023.

www.paycor.com

 

[George50]

Nonsense. $15 MW will destroy small town small businesses. They don't have the money to support it. Obama's waters of the US rule would have destroyed midwest ranchers had Trump not reversed it.

What dos MW or the waters rule have to do with climate change?

 

[megalaserLAWS]

The OP omitted the next sentence on purpose. It is what Trump worshipers do.

He showed the contradiction and the subsequent sentence did nothing to alleviate that.