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Biden claims to have previously banned assault weapons

Glitch said:
No, it is not. All constitutionally protected individual rights are exactly the same. The government should be protecting those rights, not infringing upon them at every opportunity.
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And if it can't get the 2A repealed, it should do all it can to restrict the supply of guns and the ability of people to carry them.
 
Tlrmln said:
There was nothing about the ban on "Assault Weapons" that possibly could have caused a reduction in mass shootings.
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The bayonet lug and flash suppressor were removed. So there were less bayonet attacks.
 
craig said:
The bayonet lug and flash suppressor were removed. So there were less bayonet attacks.
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Yeah, but a lot more people were blinded by muzzle flash, got burned fingers and sore wrists because they had to shoot without a barrel shroud or pistol grip, and got "tennis elbow" because they had to throw their grenades rather than launching them, so it was basically a wash.
 
Glitch said:
No, it is not. All constitutionally protected individual rights are exactly the same. The government should be protecting those rights, not infringing upon them at every opportunity.
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When it says, "Shall not infringe." It is speaking in the negative.

How so, what proof that all rights are the same?
 
Exquisitor said:
When it says, "Shall not infringe." It is speaking in the negative.

How so, what proof that all rights are the same?
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Maybe constitutional amendments need to nee in the positive ?

"Shall" instead of "Shall not".
 
Rich2018 said:
I don't think rights are rated 1-10 in value are they ?
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Actually they were ranked in order by the founders. The 1st then the second. Remember the amendments were required to get the future states to ratify the constitution.
 
craig said:
Actually they were ranked in order by the founders. The 1st then the second. Remember the amendments were required to get the future states to ratify the constitution.
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Are the amendments in the bill of rights attributed to the founders ?

And where does it say that those rights are listed in order of importance ?

The 5th amendment is way more important than the 2nd amendment.

What about the right set down in the original Constitution itself ?
 
Rich2018 said:
Are the amendments in the bill of rights attributed to the founders ?

And where does it say that those rights are listed in order of importance ?

The 5th amendment is way more important than the 2nd amendment.

What about the right set down in the original Constitution itself ?
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This is not ancient history Read what they said, not what people say they said (including me).

Documentary History of the Ratification of the Constitution

The signing of the U.S. Constitution on 17 September 1787 was a milestone in creating a government for the recently independent United States. However, the act of signing itself did not create a government. Nor did it bring the new Constitution into force. The closing of the Constitutional...
csac.history.wisc.edu csac.history.wisc.edu
 
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craig said:
In other words get off your ass and do some research.
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You made the claim, I'm merely skeptical of it

I'm not doing your homework for you.

Don't post statements you can't substantiate.
 
craig said:
Actually they were ranked in order by the founders. The 1st then the second. Remember the amendments were required to get the future states to ratify the constitution.
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Not true.

First, the Bill of Rights was not added to the US Constitution until 1791, two years after the States ratified the US Constitution. While it is true that several States refused to ratify the US Constitution until they proposed amendments, the overwhelming majority of those amendments proposed by the States were never ratified. Virginia alone proposed over 40 amendments to the US Constitution, and they got only three in the end, which would eventually become the First, Second, and Twenty-Seventh Amendments.

Second, there is no particular order to how the Bill of Rights are arranged. The actual Second Amendment introduced by James Madison, that was passed by two-thirds of Congress in 1789, became the Twenty-Seventh Amendment in 1992. Before the amendment was ratified by the States in 1790 it somehow managed to get lost. Until a Texas A&M student rediscovered it in 1985.

No amendment supersedes another (except for the Twenty-First Amendment). They are all equal, with none being more important than any other.
 
Rich2018 said:
You made the claim, I'm merely skeptical of it

I'm not doing your homework for you.

Don't post statements you can't substantiate.
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Then refute it with facts. You are asking me basic questions about the how the constitution was created and ratified,
 
Yeah. Thank heaven Joe got outta prison in South Africa in time to do it.
 
Glitch said:
Not true.

First, the Bill of Rights was not added to the US Constitution until 1791, two years after the States ratified the US Constitution. While it is true that several States refused to ratify the US Constitution until they proposed amendments, the overwhelming majority of those amendments proposed by the States were never ratified. Virginia alone proposed over 40 amendments to the US Constitution, and they got only three in the end, which would eventually become the First, Second, and Twenty-Seventh Amendments.

Second, there is no particular order to how the Bill of Rights are arranged. The actual Second Amendment introduced by James Madison, that was passed by two-thirds of Congress in 1789, became the Twenty-Seventh Amendment in 1992. Before the amendment was ratified by the States in 1790 it somehow managed to get lost. Until a Texas A&M student rediscovered it in 1985.

No amendment supersedes another (except for the Twenty-First Amendment). They are all equal, with none being more important than any other.
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I was wrong. I thought the Bill of Rights was necessary to ratify the Constitution in all states.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I would point to a much stronger correlation between fatherless homes, but that can't be used to demonize the more conservative types so it's over looked.
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Our conservative friends don’t worry about AR15s, but they sure like to get nervous about Jewish space lasers.
 
CLAX1911 said:
What like that movie Spaceballs?
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Yeah I don’t know- you tell me. We have an actual member of Congress warning us about it and how scary it is. What’s a few genocides here and there with AR15s when have this scary Jewish space laser thingy pointing right at our heads, right? If we’re gonna ban anything it totally makes sense to start with that first.
 
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