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Biden adds hurdles to federal grants for charter schools, keeps promise to teachers unions

The last thing the unions want is competition, then they might have to put out a better product for our children. Thank God that the Democrats and Biden are willing to step in and sacrifice our children's education for political gain. What a great party!
 
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Public schools are more than adequate. The problem is not the schools, it is the culture in poor neighborhoods.

Look at the Palin's for example. They are not even poor but their culture is deplorable and the kids drop out and drug.

It's the culture, the family. Rich or poor. Not the public schools.

How is that dealt with for those parents who are not deplorable and do not want their children falling in with bad company?
 
Democrats are only interested in radicalizing kids. Unless it's their kids:

Sidwell Friends School
Described as "the Harvard of Washington’s private schools",[3] the school has educated children of notable politicians, including those of several presidents. President Theodore Roosevelt's son Archibald, President Richard Nixon's daughters Tricia and Julie, President Bill Clinton's daughter Chelsea Clinton, President Barack Obama's daughters Sasha and Malia, the grandchildren of President Joe Biden when he was Vice President,[4]and Vice President Al Gore's son, Albert Gore III, graduated from Sidwell Friends.
 
If the public schools are doing so well, then why do the New York charter schools have waiting lists measured in the tens of thousands? Why are Asian-heritage parents being more and more attracted to charter schools?


Good luck with that, with all the vested interests that like things as they are. That's why it's easier to set up charter schools than fix the public schools. Personally, I think the best way to fix our broken school system is to let the money follow the student, and let parents spend that money on any school they choose--or no school if they choose to home school instead.


The truth is that it doesn't really take that much money to provide adequate schooling. Utah is second to last in per-pupil spending ($8,014) while its students rank 6th in the nation in NAEP reading scores and 16th in the nation in NAEP math scores.
Because if there's a better options, parents will want it, and the charter schools are being presented as such.
The issue isn't how good the charter schools are, the issue is that ALL the schools should be that good.

And of course it's easier to do charter schools, especially since there's a ton of money being made and politicians like donations.

In this ****ed up system we have it's the money that talks, and some mother****er figured out how to milk the system and parents who want the best for their kids of more money.

I agree it's not all about money, but in some cases it damn well is.
The hard part is knowing where and how much.
 
It looks like the Biden administration* has chosen to go to war with the nation's students and parents, on behalf of the teachers unions:

It seems one more mistake from the Biden administration. Stop kids from having the ability to move from a failing school to a better one by slowing down charter schools formation.
Let's be completely honest. The reason so many people on the right want charter schools is so that they can send their kid to "school" with some underqualified person that will teach Jesus instead of science and math topics conservatives despise like climate change.

A close family friend of ours sent their daughter to a Christian academy because they wanted their daughter to learn "Christian science" and not the stuff they're teaching in private schools. Brainwash your children with your own money and time.
 
I've never been comfortable with charter schools in general, so this seems promising.

And hey, at least he's keeping one of this campaign promises.
Not one penny of taxpayers money should go to a for profit school!!!
 
It looks like the Biden administration* has chosen to go to war with the nation's students and parents, on behalf of the teachers unions:


Boo hoo. Now those kids will have to go to public schools with the plebs.

My heart is pumping purple piss for them.
 
The last thing the unions want is competition, then they might have to put out a better product for our children. Thank God that the Democrats and Biden are willing to step in and sacrifice our children's education for political gain. What a great party!
Well that was a mouthful of bullshit…
 
The last thing the unions want is competition, then they might have to put out a better product for our children. Thank God that the Democrats and Biden are willing to step in and sacrifice our children's education for political gain. What a great party!


Don't keep us in suspense.. What the rules the "evil" Biden administration wants to impose?
 
What exactly are these new rules?
My bad, I didn't notice that the article is only for subscribers. I'm sure there's more, but here's what the article specifies:

To get the federal grant money under the new rules, charter schools would first have to prove the surrounding school district has an “unmet demand” that will be filled by the charter school, including “any over-enrollment of existing public schools” or other information showing the school would fill “a demand for specialized instructional approaches.”

It would also impose new diversity requirements that new charter schools in communities of color and cut off federal funds for public charter schools run entirely by for-profit companies.

And of course it's easier to do charter schools, especially since there's a ton of money being made and politicians like donations.
You do know that charter schools often spend less per pupil for better results?

Let's be completely honest. The reason so many people on the right want charter schools is so that they can send their kid to "school" with some underqualified person that will teach Jesus instead of science and math topics conservatives despise like climate change.
It's true that a good deal of the drive for private and home schooling has been driven by cultural issues, and that's been growing as public schools push more and more woke garbage. I expect the increased public awareness of CRT in schools has increased that. But for many, it's a quality issue--many public schools are horrible, entrenched interests get in the way of fixing them, so many parents want alternatives.

Not one penny of taxpayers money should go to a for profit school!!!
Does that mean we should eliminate all federal loans and grants for students attending private colleges? Why do you care if a school is private or public, so long as it does its job?

Boo hoo. Now those kids will have to go to public schools with the plebs.
The ones that really want the charter schools are those that can't afford the extra for private schools and want their kids out of the hellholes they're forced to send them to. They are the "plebs."
 
It seems one more mistake from the Biden administration. Stop kids from having the ability to move from a failing school to a better one by slowing down charter schools formation.
This is not a mistake. The Dems need their propaganda machine AKA: public schools.
 
Parents send kids to schools with a much better than decent education by not taking them to charter schools. There is absolutely no reason in the world charter schools should exist, period. Everything a kid needs to learn is in the public school district.

You need to stop reading The Washington Times. I(t is a far-right newspaper. Anything it says about the value of charter schools is a lie because only public schools have everything kids need for at least 13 years and are required to comply with teacher unions.
Yep. Keep turning out good little socialists.
 
Because regulations, bureaucracy, and teachers unions get in the way. Plus, the lack of competition leads to poor quality, as is so often the case.
Actually it's taxes that are the issue. Poorer schools have less in taxes from the town.
 
Many public schools are a flaming disaster!! But evil people want to keep poor kids in failing schools! Shameful!
My kids go to public schools and it's rated very very well. My home town school was rated very very high. I can point to numerous schools in my area alone that are very very good.

The answer is for more complex than..derrrr charter schools..
 
The Teachers union look out for the teachers not the kids or parents. Look at the crap the unions did during COVID.

"Since when have teacher unions been bad for students and parents?"
You mean their safety and health? OH noes....

You people have some really warped views in we should run society
 
It looks like the Biden administration* has chosen to go to war with the nation's students and parents, on behalf of the teachers unions:

Why should the federal government fund charter schools?
 
How do you fix them? They have been failing for many years. Children should be able to leave a failing school and move to a better one. If your family is rich should not be the deciding factor.
One of the issues here is that charter schools can be selective with their admissions. If a child has a poor attitude, an intellectual disability, or a medical issue they can be declined admission.

Their results are also not much better “A 2019 U.S. Department of Education studyfound that there was no meaningful difference between the eighth graders in charter schools and public schools when it came to math or English proficiency, as measured by the National Assessment of Educational Progress, often called "the nation’s report card."”

So what we are left with is an entity that is able to be selective with what students are admitted while simultaneously pulling funds away from public education.
 
Because public schools are turning out good little commies?
Your opinion isn’t a valid line of reasoning.

Do you have a source showing students from charter schools have significantly different views on the world than ones from public schools or is it just wishful thinking?
 
Because public schools are turning out good little commies?
Are they? Someone forgot to tell the communists.

"Since its establishment, the CPUSA has lived through the inter-war period and Cold War repression, which practically forced the organization underground. Of the country’s 300 million inhabitants, the organization currently has some 5,000 members nationwide."

 
Your opinion isn’t a valid line of reasoning.

Do you have a source showing students from charter schools have significantly different views on the world than ones from public schools or is it just wishful thinking?
Since the radical left lubs, lubs, lubs the public schools that proves they are a socialist institution. Not that any proof is needed because a government run institution such as schools are the definition of socialism and control.
 
Are they? Someone forgot to tell the communists.

"Since its establishment, the CPUSA has lived through the inter-war period and Cold War repression, which practically forced the organization underground. Of the country’s 300 million inhabitants, the organization currently has some 5,000 members nationwide."

Public schools are socialism in action. We see the horrific results.
 
Many public schools are a flaming disaster!! But evil people want to keep poor kids in failing schools! Shameful!

Its not the schools. Its the community. I already explained this.
Here in the northeast, there is no school problem. None. There are communities that within the area that do not respect or take advantage of the schools.

In red America there are few good schools but thus because the communities don't want to pay for them .

So in all cases, as you can see, its the communities not the schools where issues exist.

Your welcome.
 
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