Biden ‘Prepared to Respond’ If Russia Cyberattacks US

[trouble13]

You hate Biden and you're still mad that your orange baboon lost the last election. We get it. Blah, blah, blah. Yada, yada, yada.

Your post comes across more hateful than his.

 

[trouble13]

A cyber attack on the US would be a catastrophically stupid move by Russia.
Both the US and UK have spent the last decade building up cyber defences and hiring specialists like crazy.

The UK has raised spending on cyber many times and it's a large focus here.

Government commits millions to security investment | Computer Weekly

Spending Review adds more than £750m of funding to improve cyber security resilience across government.

www.computerweekly.com

The UK has a pretty good track record with this sort of thing with GCHQ going back to WW2.

It only takes 1 whiz kid to beat all of that.

 

[trouble13]

Do you really expect the secretive world of cyber security to announce its plans?
Why would they do that?

That's not what I was saying. I'm saying this administration has made promises that it has not delivered on in the past. When they ask us to trust them, they do so with a credibility problem.

 

[Peter]

It only takes 1 whiz kid to beat all of that.

And the US and UK doesn't have anyone who can manage to use a computer I assume?
I think you've been watching too many hacking scenes on TV.
Governments have some quite intelligent people and they know the most likely targets.

 

[Peter]

That's not what I was saying. I'm saying this administration has made promises that it has not delivered on in the past. When they ask us to trust them, they do so with a credibility problem.

Fair enough but you seem to be almost suicidally pessimistic.
If hacking the US was that easy ISIS would have been doing so for the last 15 years as they really don't like you guys for some reason.
They have lots of spare cash and could hire some WizKids.

 

[EnigmaO01]

Your post comes across more hateful than his.

Do you need a hanky?

 

[trouble13]

And the US and UK doesn't have anyone who can manage to use a computer I assume?
I think you've been watching too many hacking scenes on TV.
Governments have some quite intelligent people and they know the most likely targets.

I don't think you are giving our adversary the proper amount of respect for their abilities.

 

[trouble13]

Fair enough but you seem to be almost suicidally pessimistic.
If hacking the US was that easy ISIS would have been doing so for the last 15 years as they really don't like you guys for some reason.
They have lots of spare cash and could hire some WizKids.

The did hack an important pipeline in the north east and hold it hostage with randsomware.

 

[Peter]

I don't think you are giving our adversary the proper amount of respect for their abilities.

They aren't supervillains.
What evidence do you have that they have better computer specialists than the UK and US combined?

 

[trouble13]

Do you need a hanky?

From the tone of your posts it sounds like you might be in need of one.

 

[Peter]

The did hack an important pipeline in the north east and hold it hostage with randsomware.

And you think the security services just watched and said "OH hell no, we can't compete with that! Wave the white flags guys we're doomed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".

I have a feeling they may have learned something from that and made it much harder to do something similar in the future or why are both our countries spending billions on people who will instantly capitulate to Russian hackers?

 

[trouble13]

They aren't supervillains.
What evidence do you have that they have better computer specialists than the UK and US combined?

They don't have to be supervillain to be effective and our pros are not superheroes. If I were a gambling person I would guess the differences between them all is slim. Why are you so confident that we are stronger than Russia in the cyber-world?

 

[trouble13]

And you think the security services just watched and said "OH hell no, we can't compete with that! Wave the white flags guys we're doomed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".

I have a feeling they may have learned something from that and made it much harder to do something similar in the future or why are both our countries spending billions on people who will instantly capitulate to Russian hackers?

I hope they learned something

 

[NolanVoyd]

For some reason I don't think Putin is worried. He's seen the Obama puppet in action already. "Talk loudly and carry a little stick."

btw, have you heard about those "devastating sanctions" Biden was talking about? LOL!!

Politics used to stop at the waters edge. What the hell happened to the Republican party?

 

[Mycroft]

Politics used to stop at the waters edge.

Politics has NEVER stopped at the water's edge.

Did the Democrats suddenly support everything Trump did that had to do with other countries?

Did the Republicans suddenly support everything Obama did that had to do with other countries?

Did the Democrats suddenly support everything GW Bush did that had to do with other countries?

The obvious and indisputable answer to those questions is "No".

What the hell happened to the Republican party?

I don't know. I'm not a Republican.

 

[code1211]

What sanctions, et al, do you think Biden should impose and what that he is doing that shouldn't be done? Otherwise, you're talking loudly and carrying no stick.

I've heard commentators discussing the implementation of a no-fly zone. Seems reasonable. What Carrier Task Force did the moron Biden reposition in the face of the Russian build up?

George HW Bush provided a template for this sort of a response. "...Shall not stand". He was also a globalist, so they did share some common ground.

In contrast, though, George HW Bush had both a backbone and integrity. Biden functions unencumbered by either.

At the absolute minimum least, there should be a flock of Stingers flying toward every flying weapons platform or troop transport and a swarm of Javelins hitting every invading tank.

 

[code1211]

It's not up to me to decide what sanctions. That's the Biden puke's job. And they are failing.

It seems unlikely that Putin did not anticipate the application of sanctions.

 

[Mycroft]

It seems unlikely that Putin did not anticipate the application of sanctions.

If you mean he didn't believe Biden's pukes would actually apply any sanctions that should be worried about, I'd say you are right. And Putin is right, too.

 

[code1211]

You hate Biden and you're still mad that your orange baboon lost the last election. We get it. Blah, blah, blah. Yada, yada, yada.

Putin invaded because Biden is a useless joke of an opponent that Putin dismissed observing the urine soaked pants displayed in the Afghanistan abandonment.

 

[code1211]

If you mean he didn't believe Biden's pukes would actually apply any sanctions that should be worried about, I'd say you are right. And Putin is right, too.

Something that Putin, I think, did NOT anticipate is that stage comedian would rise up to become the Washington of Ukraine.

The Ukrainians are literally facing of with a super power of their day EXACTLY as the Americans did so facing off with the British.

While the Russians invade, there is resistance and according to report from Newsweek, foreign nationals are joining the fight even as our cowardly and feckless leaders renege their responsibilities.

It would be nice to see in 30 years that Zelenskyy is remembered as the father of democracy and liberty in Ukraine and not just another martyr in the struggle of people against tyranny.

When offered safe passage out of Ukraine, Zelenskyy is reported to have said something like, I need weapons, not a ride.

In the mean time, our pearl clutching leaders are frozen by indecision and cowardice. We seem committed to the idea of performing another Dunkirk withdrawal ASAP.

 

[bluesmoke]

It's not up to me to decide what sanctions. That's the Biden puke's job. And they are failing.

Then if you can't say what of Biden's doing shouldn't be done, you've no action/fact-based argument against Biden. You can neither say what should be done, or what Biden is doing that shouldn't be done. Classic Mycroft non-position in debate, but for hurling insults, of course.

 

[bluesmoke]

I've heard commentators discussing the implementation of a no-fly zone. Seems reasonable. What Carrier Task Force did the moron Biden reposition in the face of the Russian build up?

George HW Bush provided a template for this sort of a response. "...Shall not stand". He was also a globalist, so they did share some common ground.

In contrast, though, George HW Bush had both a backbone and integrity. Biden functions unencumbered by either.

At the absolute minimum least, there should be a flock of Stingers flying toward every flying weapons platform or troop transport and a swarm of Javelins hitting every invading tank.

I don't think major democratic countries, as a whole, did much of anything to send support to Ukraine during the buildup of Russian forces with the obvious intent, proven in recent past, to invade Ukraine. I don't yet know for a fact what the US lacked in attempting to get participation from other countries (and support of the American public), without which would not be a successful support of Ukraine, starting with the 2014 invasion of Ukraine's Crimea peninsula. I think Obama, Trump and Biden owe Americans an explanation.

Bush1 invaded Iraq. You think we should invade Russia? That template?

If you mean providing Ukraine with Stingers, et al, but not any non-Ukrainian troops, incl operation of those weapons, I'm good with that.

 

[Rogue Valley]

They don't have to be supervillain to be effective and our pros are not superheroes.

You sound remarkably like the orange babboon.

 

[code1211]

Then if you can't say what of Biden's doing shouldn't be done, you've no action/fact-based argument against Biden. You can neither say what should be done, or what Biden is doing that shouldn't be done. Classic Mycroft non-position in debate, but for hurling insults, of course.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cute.

Biden should have been acting behind the scenes to prevent the invasion from ever happening.

You know... Like Trump.

 

[code1211]

I don't think major democratic countries, as a whole, did much of anything to send support to Ukraine during the buildup of Russian forces with the obvious intent, proven in recent past, to invade Ukraine. I don't yet know for a fact what the US lacked in attempting to get participation from other countries (and support of the American public), without which would not be a successful support of Ukraine, starting with the 2014 invasion of Ukraine's Crimea peninsula. I think Obama, Trump and Biden owe Americans an explanation.

Bush1 invaded Iraq. You think we should invade Russia? That template?

If you mean providing Ukraine with Stingers, et al, but not any non-Ukrainian troops, incl operation of those weapons, I'm good with that.

It's later than you think.

Biden's array of responses was limited severely the moment a Russian weapon crossed into Ukraine.

Doing it right would have involved prevention, not cure.

When Putin saw the yellow streak down Biden's Back in Afghanistan combined with the complete and utter lack of any sort of intelligent strategy, it was "Game On" in Ukraine.

It's easier to prevent a fire than it is to dowse a fire that's already consuming the house.