Cisero
DP Veteran
- Joined
- Dec 29, 2015
- Messages
- 1,663
- Reaction score
- 1,214
- Location
- Valais, Switzerland
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Libertarian - Left
No, it makes him a pedophile. His sexual orientation has nothing to do with the sex of the child he abuses.
Yes I agree. However, doesn't a pedophile decide what child he wants to rape based on his personal taste ? If pedophiles are more attracted to little girls, it's logical for them to abduct little girls. Why do they abduct little boys ?
In a prison context, wouldn't prisoners rape women if they were available ?
(This thread is quite disturbing)
Are you saying that pedophiles don't care if it's a boy or a girl ? As long as it's a child ?
No. I'm saying that most pedophiles are specifically oriented toward abusing a child of a specific gender, and this may be the opposite of the gender of which they are attracted to in regards to their sexual orientation. There ARE some pedophiles who will abuse a child regardless of that child's gender, but that is less common than one who aims towards a specific gender.
So if a male pedophile orients his abuse towards male children, he's more attracted to male children than female children. Which means his gender preference is the same gender as his own.
He's a pedophile with homosexual preferences in this case. I don't see how you can argue this point ?
No, it means his gender preference in regards to his pedophilia is towards males. It has nothing to do with his attraction towards adults which may very well be females, making him a heterosexual who is also a pedophile with attraction towards boys.
Easily and quite successfully. Research shows that the majority of males who abuse boys are heterosexual. Their sexual orientation has nothing to do with who they want to abuse.
Alright then I understand your points. The gender preference an adult has for other adults is different from the gender preference he has for children. Sorry it took some time for me to understand
Now I see your points. The fact a pedophile is attracted to women does not mean he prefers girls, since his sexual behavior is different then his sexual orientation.
I agree with both of these statements to a point. Someone who is heterosexual can have had homosexual experiences, decided he didn't like it and return to having exclusive heterosexual relations, never to look back. I imagine that maybe this happens most often to people who go to prison and then get out. We also know many people who are gay also start out trying to have sex with people of the opposite sex and then decide it's not for them.No, that did nothing of the sort. Since sexual behavior is not a definitive subset of sexual orientation, one can be homosexual and have sex with someone of the opposite sex and retain their homosexuality. You are practicing black and white thinking and demonstrating that, as usual, you have no knowledge on research or information on the topic we are discussing.
Incorrect. Gacy was a heterosexual who's aggression was aimed towards teenage boys and young men. His aggression was sexual in nature.
You're reading more into my statements than is necessary. I'm talking about people who choose to have sex with both sexes because they are attracted to them both. Those are bisexuals. They are definitely not heterosexuals. Gacey truly was attracted to boys. He also enjoyed killing them. He was not attracted to women, even though he married two. He was probably homosexual, but also he was a violent sex offender and murderer.This may by the dumbest thing you've said in this entire thread, and demonstrates that you know nothing about sexuality and sexual behavior. In prisons, for example, a prisoner will have sex with a same-sex prisoner, not because of attraction, but because of aggression, because of power, because of opportunity, or to obtain protection. Nothing about attraction, AND the vast majority who engage in these behaviors are HETEROSEXUAL. You should really recuse yourself from this thread. Your lack of knowledge on this topic is more vast than all the sand on the planet.
One example of this was given above. Pretty common. Another example is what we are discussing. Also common. Both are well documented. Your ignorance on this topic is once again exposed.
True. Yet these two things have nothing to do with each other since sexual orientation and sexual behavior are two different things. Further, sexual activity towards children is pedophilia an issue that is completely separate from one's sexual orientation.
Once again, your ignorance on this topic is exposed and you have been corrected.
Yay! You got it. Thank you for reading critically and understanding my points.
If I understand your points correctly, you are making one of two possible assertions.
Assertion number one: men who sexually abuse boys are exclusively attracted to females above the age of seventeen, and exclusively attracted to boys under the age of eighteen.
Assertion number two: men who sexually abuse boys are exclusively heterosexuals who are not aroused by boys, but they risk severe penalties by abusing them anyway.
Sorry guy. Neither of those assertions pass the laugh test. When I think of them it is difficult for me to suppress my laughter.:lol:
Being suspicious by nature; I occasionally google a "Snope expert" and usually find unmistakable left-wing biases!This is me. When I do see a story, I cross reference it with other news sources almost immediately by habit. I also snopes the hell out of things...sad to say but you can't just take the "good media's" word for things anymore than you can take a politician's.
Isn't that akin to a court declaring the legal rights of manufacturers take precedence over those of consumers?!They tried that in the earlier days of US television if memory serves. And, eventually, "reporter's rights" became a thing.
Rather than "entertainment", I personally view "the news" as simply a source for cold hard facts!Now days, most news outlets get around this by having their news reports right up to the end of their program and then have the "opinion segment" which is probably watched more than the news, itself anyway because we love our entertainment.
Of course if there weren't libercons then the news wouldn't have biases to pander to
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?