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Best Economist?

Best Economist?

  • John Keynes

    Votes: 3 16.7%
  • Adam Smith

    Votes: 10 55.6%
  • Karl Marx

    Votes: 5 27.8%

  • Total voters
    18
galenrox said:
He promoted conservative economics in a day when you could get blacklisted from schools of economics for holding those views. He was a brilliant man, and he was an integral part in building up the University of Chicago as one of the most prominent schools of economics in the world.


Ah I see.


I could understand this, it was a popular movement back then to try socialism and Fascism was even perfectly acceptable. Many ideas were coming out of Italy and the USSR were being used in the west


Odd huh?
 
128shot said:
Ah I see.


I could understand this, it was a popular movement back then to try socialism and Fascism was even perfectly acceptable. Many ideas were coming out of Italy and the USSR were being used in the west


Odd huh?
yeah dude, it's nuts
 
libertarian_knight said:
New Boss same as the old Boss. Well not really, the new boss sucked, at least compared to the imediatley prior bosses (not that the prior bosses were any good either). Seems to be a problem with Bosses huh? Capitalist Boss, Worker Boss, Czar/King Boss, Communist Boss.

See that's why Marx was wrong, and a great many other revolutionaires, they imagined new bosses will make it all better. It doesn't. And the workers will never give up wanting some boss, which is of course, why they are workers in the first place. It's like telling Night to Give up Day. White to give up Black, Cat to give up Dog.

A man who identifies himself as "a worker" knows that part of his identity is based on the relationship of cooperation and antagonism to his counterpart, "the Boss." So the solution, is for no man to identify themselves as a worker or a boss, and workers can not unite and revolt if they are not "workers."

Read "The Nature of Man and His Government" Below.

I wasnt saying the new boss was any better. The new boss could hardly be considered marxist anyway as marx called for a dictatorship of the proletariat but to to the soviet regiumes authoritarian nature i dont see how the workers could dictate anything as everything was dictated by those at the top.

My point was that marx was right in that the underclass will rebel if its needs are continually ignored and they are continually exploited. Russia is a good example of this and one of countless many throughout the 19th 20th centurys.

That reminds me, need to get back to your post in socialism and me
 
I definitely think that Adam Smith was the best economist out of those three.

But some other good economists were Alexander Hamilton and François Quesnay.

Alexander Hamilton was our first Secretary of Treasury and contributed a lot to how our modern capitalist system works. He understood economics and finances better than probably any other of our founding fathers.

François Quesnay was an old French economist that kind of paved the way for Adam Smith:

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Quesnay.html
 
Comrade Brian said:
You have obviously not read any of Marx's works, he used considerable evidence, but because of the time they were written, he was treated as an idiot. Also the basis for much of his economics, did stem mainly from Smith, but he developed it a lot more.

He also was the person who had developed the business cycle the most. Alienation of worker, Smith also noted something like that, but didn't develop it as Marx did.
Marx also developed the theory of class warfare the most, and historical/dialectical materialism.

What evidence? Collectivism never works.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo86.html

BTW, all the choices you have show a very liberal bias. I'm sure it was not intentional though. Marx was a cummunist, Keynes supported heavy interference in the market and Smith, though typically considered a capitalist, supported the labour theory of value (as did Marx of course).
 
What evidence? Collectivism never works.
Yes, you elaborated quite well. lol.
OK, I admit it you proved it wrong with one example of a pirimitve-type of Communalism. lol.
BTW, all the choices you have show a very liberal bias
Yes, everyone know those communists are liberals, lol. BTW, Keynes was more of a modern-day liberal, Smith was a Classical Liberal.
Marx was a cummunist
I am also a cUmmunist.

Go to: http://www.marxists.org/
and you can learn almost anything about Marxism, it may change opinions.
 
Comrade Brian said:
Yes, you elaborated quite well. lol.

OK, I admit it you proved it wrong with one example of a pirimitve-type of Communalism. lol.

Yes, everyone know those communists are liberals, lol. BTW, Keynes was more of a modern-day liberal, Smith was a Classical Liberal.

I am also a cUmmunist.

Go to: http://www.marxists.org/
and you can learn almost anything about Marxism, it may change opinions.


Keynes was a bastard liberal. He was "a liberal that gave up on liberalism" in favor of statism.
 
libertarian_knight said:
I picked Smith, only because Mises was not there, or Friedman, or Hayek, or Sowell, or a hell of a lot of others.

Smith suffered the same flaw marx did, by basing much of his understanding on the flawed "labor thoery of value." Labor makes things, but does not make things valuable. Consumers subjective understanding of the thing, is what give the thing value.

Marx was NOT an economist, he was a half-assed philospher.
Keynes is a statist-pig, and studied economics as a means to promote the state, not promote the economy.

Want to really understand economics, take econ 101 and 102, and read Human Action by Ludwig von Mises http://www.mises.org/humanaction.asp .

http://www.mises.org


I agee with everything you've said, including choices I would've liked to have seen on the poll. No Hayek, Mises or Friedman? Keynes was an annoying state-propogandizer.

To be fair, Smith was as much a political theorist as Marx was. At least by today's standards where economic analysis calls for complex statistical data and insane game theory-type mathematics. Neither make the cut.
There's one difference though, Adam's theories work. They did then, and do now (better than ever). So given the option between commie, pinko and capitalist "fathers", I'll have to go with Smith.
 
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