Berneconomy[W:59]

[Phys251]

Re: Berneconomy

So your racial fixation is Obama's fault now? :lol:

Dude, literally everything that goes wrong is Obama's fault.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Re: Berneconomy

Dude, literally everything that goes wrong is Obama's fault.

Including Ebola which apparently killed ALL OF US!!!!!!! Apparently...

If you started with 1000 people and each of them infect 20 others before noting that they are ill.

1000->20000->400K->8M->160M->100% of country. That would be five "->" or average 14 day periods = 70days, or in two months the entire country could be infected.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Re: Berneconomy

So your racial fixation is every one's fault but your own. I see...

Your race card denial will be your down fall.

It is not Kurmugeon who is seeing the importance of Working White-Vote in 2016:


The Decline of the Democratic Party Has Arrived | The National Interest

Democrats' hunt for the white working-class male voter - LA Times

Actual photo of the moment Democrats lost the white working class vote

https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2015/04/barney-frank-why-white-men-don-t-vote-democrats

Democrats Have A White People Problem | Observer

http://patriotupdate.com/democrats-to-the-white-working-class-we-hate-you-please-vote-for-us/

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-demographics-will-shape-the-2016-election/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-gop-won-shifting-white-votes-hurt-democrats-231245291--election.html

http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/the-clintons-lose-the-working-class

http://www.alternet.org/economy/robert-reich-why-white-working-class-abandoned-democratic-party

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016...ing-class-abandoned-the-democratic-party.html

http://kuow.org/post/sen-bernie-sanders-how-democrats-lost-white-voters

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/po...11/democrats_and_the_white_workin_1058702.php


You can ignorantly SNEER all you want. It doesn't change the FACTS of the Above Links!

Nearly Everyone in the Country understands that the Left has lost the Working-White-Vote!



Trying in vane to PIN the blame on Kurmugeon, only keeps you from seeing what will make Bernie, or any other Leftie, Lose.

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[justabubba]

Re: Berneconomy

I'm not much interested in the scuttlebutt from the union. What I quote are from systematic scholarly reviews of the situation.

excellent. please share those cites with us

 

[Fishking]

Re: Berneconomy

Because the Capitalists have been doing such a good job so far?

I don't think a vote for Bernie is a vote against capitalism. I think it's a vote against the oligarchs who control our economy and the Corporate conglomerates that make it hard for small business to survive.

We haven't particularly practiced capitalism in many aspects. I will say that it's somewhat of a logical incongruence by simultaneously saying that businesses have too much control over the government and then your answer is to grow the size and scope of the government.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

Re: Berneconomy

Your race card denial will be your down fall.

It is not Kurmugeon who is seeing the importance of Working White-Vote in 2016:


The Decline of the Democratic Party Has Arrived | The National Interest

Democrats' hunt for the white working-class male voter - LA Times

Actual photo of the moment Democrats lost the white working class vote

https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2015/04/barney-frank-why-white-men-don-t-vote-democrats

Democrats Have A White People Problem | Observer

http://patriotupdate.com/democrats-to-the-white-working-class-we-hate-you-please-vote-for-us/

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-demographics-will-shape-the-2016-election/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-gop-won-shifting-white-votes-hurt-democrats-231245291--election.html

http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/the-clintons-lose-the-working-class

http://www.alternet.org/economy/robert-reich-why-white-working-class-abandoned-democratic-party

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016...ing-class-abandoned-the-democratic-party.html

http://kuow.org/post/sen-bernie-sanders-how-democrats-lost-white-voters

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/po...11/democrats_and_the_white_workin_1058702.php


You can ignorantly SNEER all you want. It doesn't change the FACTS of the Above Links!

Nearly Everyone in the Country understands that the Left has lost the Working-White-Vote!



Trying in vane to PIN the blame on Kurmugeon, only keeps you from seeing what will make Bernie, or any other Leftie, Lose.

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Quit spamming and derailing the ****in topic.

 

[Mithrae]

Re: Berneconomy

I'm sorry, but none of that improves my impression of Sanders. Pretty much the opposite, in fact. He is full of disrespect and hatred for his fellow Americans, who he accuses of being greedy and evil. He is full of complaints about the American economy, which he clearly doesn't understand, and has no practical solutions. God help us if a kook like this becomes President.

He was disrespectful towards fellow Americans likening him to the Nazis hunting Jews? Unforgivable!

No-one expects you to agree with Sanders' views, but it would have been nice if you had found yourself capable of at least recognising the dishonesty in starting a thread about them by quoting a single sentence from a partisan hatchet job.

 

[shagg]

Re: Berneconomy

The Author of the OP summed up his understanding of Bernie Sanders, economics, and socialism this way:

Bernie Sanders summed up his understanding of the American economy this way:

"You don't necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants or 18 different pairs of sneakers when children are hungry in this country."

Just how spray deodorant money would be diverted to hungry children, short of nationalizing the companies, isn't clear. But we know what Sanders is saying, and it is this:

"I have no idea how things work. Let me run everything."

In the Latin American paradises Bernie so admires it's done this way:

1. Deodorant makers are nationalized and converted into one brand, which quickly becomes known for its poor quality. Then it becomes hard to get.
2. Foreign brands of deodorants show up in the black market.
3. Dogs are trained to sniff out foreign brands, and deodorant dissidents are denounced, caught, and imprisoned.

Rinse and repeat using any commodity you like. In Venezuela they repeatedly run out of toilet paper. The whole country. You could make a fortune selling it in Caracas.

The situations in Cuba, Venezuela, and the USSR being what they are Bernie looks to find a new example of socialism. Perhaps Denmark or Norway. But then they are increasingly xenophobic, and they still have a lot of capitalism. And they are soooooo white.

from James Lileks, National Review

But we know what the author of the OP is saying, and it is this:

I think socialism is the same as communism, and even that I only have a faint grasp of. But I know its really bad, so Bernie is really bad. Here's a string of poor twisted logic to support my point and demonstrate my ignorance. And some historical examples of commie disasters, all of which involved a dictator. But dictators don't matter, whats important is that you understand socialism did it, and will do it to us.

 

[Kal'Stang]

Re: Berneconomy

Moderator's Warning:

Quit playing Mod. If you think that a poster is violating the rules then report it. Don't take matters into your own hands because that can be seen as baiting which is against the rules. Quit spamming and derailing the ****in topic. Including Ebola which apparently killed ALL OF US!!!!!!! Apparently... And stick to the topic, not other posters.

 

[What if...?]

Re: Berneconomy

No, in fact, captialism is pretty much a natural law. It's what happens spontaneously when people come together to form a market of their own free will and do things in a way that they think is equitable and fair. First, they get to keep what is theirs -- their property or capital is their own. Second, there is no coercion. Any trading done is voluntary. Third, all transactions are mutually beneficial; no one can be forced to give up something if he doesn't think it's in his best interest. If a person is hired then it is again with terms that are mutually beneficial to the employer and employee, and by mutual agreement.

Where is THAT at.

Doesn't sound anything like what we have here.

Or like anything likely to come to be or ever was.

Maybe that's the problem.

Worship of something that simply doesn't exist.

 

[Mithrae]

Re: Berneconomy

Where is THAT at.

Doesn't sound anything like what we have here.

Or like anything likely to come to be or ever was.

Maybe that's the problem.

Worship of something that simply doesn't exist.

'Pure' capitalism requires that individuals' desire for wealth and power exist only within previously defined limits in order for it to work properly. Just like communism. Oh, of course... there's a government there to protect folks' property, and that might work (at least if there were no inter-generational privileges or disadvantages) for as long as we take it as a given that said government would never be co-opted by the interests of the rich and powerful. Sounds like a pretty safe bet though. I mean, when has that ever happened? :lol: