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I seldom post in this section. I was reading this article in the sports section of MSN. Thoughts?

Ravens tight end Benjamin Watson has not hesitated to speak out on the state of race relations in the United States, but he's drawing both criticism and praise for claiming that Planned Parenthood was created to "exterminate blacks" and that "it's working."

In an interview with the Turning Point Pregnancy Resource Center, Watson, a devout Christian, said that he's puzzled by why so many blacks support Planned Parenthood.

"I do know that blacks kind of represent a large portion of the abortions, and I do know that honestly the whole idea with Planned Parenthood and (group founder Margaret) Sanger in the past was to exterminate blacks, and it’s kind of ironic that it’s working," Watson said.

"We (as minorities) support candidates, and overwhelmingly support the idea of having Planned Parenthood and the like, and yet, that is why she created it. We are buying it hook, line, and sinker, like it’s a great thing. It’s just amazing to me and abortion saddens me, period, but it seems to be something that is really pushed on minorities and provided to minorities especially as something that they should do.


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I seldom post in this section. I was reading this article in the sports section of MSN. Thoughts?

Ravens tight end Benjamin Watson has not hesitated to speak out on the state of race relations in the United States, but he's drawing both criticism and praise for claiming that Planned Parenthood was created to "exterminate blacks" and that "it's working."

In an interview with the Turning Point Pregnancy Resource Center, Watson, a devout Christian, said that he's puzzled by why so many blacks support Planned Parenthood.

"I do know that blacks kind of represent a large portion of the abortions, and I do know that honestly the whole idea with Planned Parenthood and (group founder Margaret) Sanger in the past was to exterminate blacks, and it’s kind of ironic that it’s working," Watson said.

"We (as minorities) support candidates, and overwhelmingly support the idea of having Planned Parenthood and the like, and yet, that is why she created it. We are buying it hook, line, and sinker, like it’s a great thing. It’s just amazing to me and abortion saddens me, period, but it seems to be something that is really pushed on minorities and provided to minorities especially as something that they should do.


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Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

That might draw some fire here. A lot of the patrons look up to Margaret Sanger and think highly of PP's activities. They won't like the reminder at all.
 
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That might draw some fire here. A lot of the patrons look up to Margaret Sanger and think highly of PP's activities. They won't like the reminder at all.

Yes, standby for dog pile from the usual suspects. ;)
 
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LOL. Planned Parenthood, an organization that provides healthcare services for women, only 3% of which has anything to do with abortion, was founded to exterminate blacks, and it's working... You people live in an emotion-driven fantasy world completely devoid of any facts, evidence, or reason.

Conservatives: Contraceptives and abortion are murder, but we don't give two flying ****s if the children who are born are starving, living in poverty, or die because their parents can't afford to see a doctor, that's their own problem.
 
Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

LOL. Planned Parenthood, an organization that provides healthcare services for women, only 3% of which has anything to do with abortion, was founded to exterminate blacks, and it's working... You people live in an emotion-driven fantasy world completely devoid of any facts, evidence, or reason.

I like how supporters of planned parenthood always refer to the percentage of their business that is abortions and ignores how many abortions they actually do. Or put in another way, your argument doesn't debunk **** as it is nothing but carefully worded rhetoric.

Conservatives: Contraceptives and abortion are murder, but we don't give two flying ****s if the children who are born are starving, living in poverty, or die because their parents can't afford to see a doctor, that's their own problem.

:lamo You really are a little liberal, you know. This little starving crap is nothing but liberal stupidity claiming that if you don't support welfare/abortion that you don't care about born children. Give it up and just change your lean already.
 
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I seldom post in this section. I was reading this article in the sports section of MSN. Thoughts?

Ravens tight end Benjamin Watson has not hesitated to speak out on the state of race relations in the United States, but he's drawing both criticism and praise for claiming that Planned Parenthood was created to "exterminate blacks" and that "it's working."

In an interview with the Turning Point Pregnancy Resource Center, Watson, a devout Christian, said that he's puzzled by why so many blacks support Planned Parenthood.

"I do know that blacks kind of represent a large portion of the abortions, and I do know that honestly the whole idea with Planned Parenthood and (group founder Margaret) Sanger in the past was to exterminate blacks, and it’s kind of ironic that it’s working," Watson said.

"We (as minorities) support candidates, and overwhelmingly support the idea of having Planned Parenthood and the like, and yet, that is why she created it. We are buying it hook, line, and sinker, like it’s a great thing. It’s just amazing to me and abortion saddens me, period, but it seems to be something that is really pushed on minorities and provided to minorities especially as something that they should do.


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Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

Well, its interesting and all, but I really don't care what two or three people at the founding of an organization thought. I look at what they are currently doing and if they have done anything I disagree with. Is it a good or bad thing. In my book they provide family services for people that generally can't afford it which is a great thing in my book. They perform abortions, which to me is immoral, but is a right in this country and very likely does much more good than harm in the long term.

And when I hear that PP is "exterminating blacks" that's just laughable. They aren't going out and kidnapping black people to kill them. They perform a service. I don't get mad at a 17 year old girl that gets pregnant and gets an abortion so she can try to make a better life before having a child. I get mad at people that think that we are asking a huge favor when we say that health insurance should cover birth control. Because people that are anti-birth control are causing more abortions than they can imagine.
 
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Its just a conspiracy theory. We can't make it illegal for black women to get abortions to stop a so called genocide, and even if we did, the same group of people would start crying about the white genocide.
 
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LOL. Planned Parenthood, an organization that provides healthcare services for women, only 3% of which has anything to do with abortion, was founded to exterminate blacks, and it's working... You people live in an emotion-driven fantasy world completely devoid of any facts, evidence, or reason.

Just think if this 3% talking point was applied to other situations. Well, the murderer only spends 3% of his time killing people and spends much more time providing free healthcare services to the poor. For that reason anyone that wants to throw him in prison for his actions that only take 3% of his time are just being irrational. lol
 
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I like how supporters of planned parenthood always refer to the percentage of their business that is abortions and ignores how many abortions they actually do. Or put in another way, your argument doesn't debunk **** as it is nothing but carefully worded rhetoric.
:lamo You really are a little liberal, you know. This little starving crap is nothing but liberal stupidity claiming that if you don't support welfare/abortion that you don't care about born children. Give it up and just change your lean already.
Just think if this 3% talking point was applied to other situations. Well, the murderer only spends 3% of his time killing people and spends much more time providing free healthcare services to the poor. For that reason anyone that wants to throw him in prison for his actions that only take 3% of his time are just being irrational. lol

When you're ready to provide evidence that an organization that provides abortions as only a tiny percentage of their services was founded to exterminate blacks, I'll be here. Until then you can keep pouting in the anarchist wonderland you created in your parents' basement, Henrinlandia.

If you can't win on reason, logic, and evidence, try to win on outlandish hyperbole you pull out of your ass. I will not be responding to you again unless your post has direct evidence that black extermination is their goal.
 
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Watson, a devout Christian,

Well there's a shocker..... :roll:

Has it ever been mandatory for anyone to use the services PP offers? Or has it always been completely and 100% voluntary?

Also, since abortion rates have been steadily dropping over the years, I guess the "system" is failing?

I would like to know what the "devout christian" football player :roll: thinks about birth control and sex education. I'd bet I can guess.
 
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Omg someone is still spouting that long-debunked 3% crock of ****?!

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so mindnumbingly stupid. It buggers belief someone could actually present that dishonest propaganda as though it were gospel.

If we're going to selectively itemize to minimize one thing and expound at length about another and just reject all reason when making statistical claims, then The New York Yankees must be a food service company, then. Hitting baseballs is such a small part of what they do.
 
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When you're ready to provide evidence that an organization that provides abortions as only a tiny percentage of their services was founded to exterminate blacks, I'll be here. Until then you can keep pouting in the anarchist wonderland you created in your parents' basement, Henrinlandia.

If you can't win on reason, logic, and evidence, try to win on outlandish hyperbole you pull out of your ass. I will not be responding to you again unless your post has direct evidence that black extermination is their goal.

I'm mocking the three percent rhetoric pro-choice people love so much. It accounts for 300,000 abortions, but of course they can't say that, so they frame the argument in terms of the percentage of PPs business that abortion takes up. I love how people frame their arguments in politics. The argument is still true of course, but the framing is so ****ing dishonest and the intent of the framing is down right despicable.
 
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I seldom post in this section. I was reading this article in the sports section of MSN. Thoughts?

Ravens tight end Benjamin Watson has not hesitated to speak out on the state of race relations in the United States, but he's drawing both criticism and praise for claiming that Planned Parenthood was created to "exterminate blacks" and that "it's working."

In an interview with the Turning Point Pregnancy Resource Center, Watson, a devout Christian, said that he's puzzled by why so many blacks support Planned Parenthood.

"I do know that blacks kind of represent a large portion of the abortions, and I do know that honestly the whole idea with Planned Parenthood and (group founder Margaret) Sanger in the past was to exterminate blacks, and it’s kind of ironic that it’s working," Watson said.

"We (as minorities) support candidates, and overwhelmingly support the idea of having Planned Parenthood and the like, and yet, that is why she created it. We are buying it hook, line, and sinker, like it’s a great thing. It’s just amazing to me and abortion saddens me, period, but it seems to be something that is really pushed on minorities and provided to minorities especially as something that they should do.


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Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

Well, by that same logic, the United States was created on the backs of black slave labor and the subjugation of blacks. Maybe Ben Watson should be anti-American.
 
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I'm mocking the three percent rhetoric pro-choice people love so much. It accounts for 300,000 abortions, but of course they can't say that, so they frame the argument in terms of the percentage of PPs business that abortion takes up. I love how people frame their arguments in politics. The argument is still true of course, but the framing is so ****ing dishonest and the intent of the framing is down right despicable.

Oh look, somebody who thinks those same children should be left to die if they're poor is trying to give out lessons in morality. Don't for one second pretend you give a single **** about anyone but yourself.

I still didn't see any evidence that PP is trying to exterminate blacks.

Omg someone is still spouting that long-debunked 3% crock of ****?!

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so mindnumbingly stupid. It buggers belief someone could actually present that dishonest propaganda as though it were gospel.

If we're going to selectively itemize to minimize one thing and expound at length about another and just reject all reason when making statistical claims, then The New York Yankees must be a food service company, then. Hitting baseballs is such a small part of what they do.

And I can't believe there are still people spouting the "Planned Parenthood is a genocidal organization bent on exterminating blacks" crock of ****.
 
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Oh look, somebody who thinks those same children should be left to die if they're poor is trying to give out lessons in morality. Don't for one second pretend you give a single **** about anyone but yourself.

Your lack of respect for the property rights of others and your defamatory lies make you moral, then?

Feh.

Support for socialism precludes being a moral person almost as much as support for abortion does, and often those issue stances come as a package deal of amorality, as they do with you.

Libertarians know that state solutions aren't the only ones, and often aren't effacious to begin with. In the case of providing charity, the government is a demonstrable failure.
 
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Oh look, somebody who thinks those same children should be left to die if they're poor is trying to give out lessons in morality. Don't for one second pretend you give a single **** about anyone but yourself.

I still didn't see any evidence that PP is trying to exterminate blacks.

Didn't you already try that talking point earlier in the thread? I seem to recall calling you out on that on just the last page. Oh right, that's because I did.
 
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LOL. Planned Parenthood, an organization that provides healthcare services for women, only 3% of which has anything to do with abortion, was founded to exterminate blacks, and it's working... You people live in an emotion-driven fantasy world completely devoid of any facts, evidence, or reason.

Conservatives: Contraceptives and abortion are murder, but we don't give two flying ****s if the children who are born are starving, living in poverty, or die because their parents can't afford to see a doctor, that's their own problem.

Who is "you people"?
 
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Your lack of respect for the property rights of others and your defamatory lies make you moral, then?

Feh.

Support for socialism precludes being a moral person as much as support for abortion does, and often those issue stances come as a package deal of amorality, as they do with you.

I just think it's hilarious that anarchists like you and Henrin pretend to care about the lives of the born or unborn children yet believe letting those same children die from treatable diseases or hunger is perfectly acceptable. You're not pro-life, you're anti-abortion. You're a "libertarian" until it comes to using the government to enforce your own beliefs.

Who is "you people"?

People who seriously think that PP's goal is to exterminate blacks. Learn to read context.
 
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Your lack of respect for the property rights of others and your defamatory lies make you moral, then?

Feh.

Support for socialism precludes being a moral person as much as support for abortion does, and often those issue stances come as a package deal of amorality, as they do with you.

It shows the hypocrisy.

Obviously and blatantly.

If the pregnant mother was dying on the steps of the hospital with no money, you said she should die... You do not value life, for both you and Henrin this is squarely about women, there's no reason mad max anarchistic libertarians like yourselves should care about this subject.
 
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Well, by that same logic, the United States was created on the backs of black slave labor and the subjugation of blacks. Maybe Ben Watson should be anti-American.

I'm not sure what that has to do with his opinion about Planned Parenthood. I just posted it because it was in the sports section and was on the front page; a black man saying what he found odd about blacks supporting candidates that support Planned Parenthood.
 
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I just think it's hilarious that anarchists like you and Henrin pretend to care about the lives of the born or unborn children yet believe letting those same children die from treatable diseases or hunger is perfectly acceptable. You're not pro-life, you're anti-abortion. You're a "libertarian" until it comes to using the government to enforce your own morality.


Libertarians aren't anarchists. We're also not nanny-state loving socialists like you.

Charity is not the role of the state.

Homicide is prosecuted for born humans; it should be prosecuted for unborn humans.

State charity should not be provided to any human of any age because coercive state charity paid for at the expense of all taxpayers is grossly immoral.
 
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I just think it's hilarious that anarchists like you and Henrin pretend to care about the lives of the born or unborn children yet believe letting those same children die from treatable diseases or hunger is perfectly acceptable. You're not pro-life, you're anti-abortion. You're a "libertarian" until it comes to using the government to enforce your own beliefs.



People who seriously think that PP's goal is to exterminate blacks. Learn to read context.

So "you people" was directed at the black man who can't understand why blacks support candidates who support PP because he believes that Margaret Sanger wanted to exterminate or keep the numbers down through eugenics?
 
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It shows the hypocrisy.

Obviously and blatantly.

No matter how many times you demonstrate this ignorance and delusion and say this stupid thing, consistency is not hypocrisy just because you have a hard-on for Karl Marx and state power.

Hypocrisy involves double standards.

For all human beings I oppose killing them in aggression and want a state to punish this act as a crime. That is the chief role of the state, a nightwatchman.

For all human beings I oppose the state ever coercively their seizing property to give to another human; for a state to do so, it must abandon its reason for existing and start violating the rights of its citizens.

Your position in which you are grossly inconsistent and driven by your stupid bigotry against the unborn to support a double standard in which they can be killed on a whim while pretending you "care" because you vote for other people's money to be spent on them if they aren't killed? The hypocrisy is all yours, friendo.
 
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Libertarians aren't anarchists. We're also not nanny-state loving socialists like you.

Charity is not the role of the state.

Homicide is prosecuted for born humans; it should be prosecuted for unborn humans.

State charity should not be provided to any human of any age because coercive state charity paid for at the expense of all taxpayers is grossly immoral.

So letting a pregnant woman and her baby die on the front steps of a hospital because she doesn't have money is perfectly fine, but a woman exercising her right to her own body by terminating an early pregnancy is a moral atrocity that should be stopped with government force.

It's like I said, you don't actually care about these children or people, you only care about yourself and you're more than willing to use government force to control other people's bodies. Why do you hate liberty so much?

So "you people" was directed at the black man who can't understand why blacks support candidates who support PP because he believes that Margaret Sanger wanted to exterminate or keep the numbers down through eugenics?

Yes.
 
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So letting a pregnant woman and her baby die on the front steps of a hospital because she doesn't have money is perfectly fine

I never said it was "perfectly fine," socialist, as that is a value judgement beyond simply noting what are the appropriate limits of state power.

Charity and altruism are still good and desirable things; state coerced seizure of property removes any aspect of moral good from the equation - you have to give that money to them or they come after you with force.


but a woman exercising her right to her own body by terminating an early pregnancy

Deliberately and aggressively killing another human being in cold blood has nothing to do with "your own body." I wish you pro-aborts would get some fresh lies because you're all quite stale at this point.

Why do you claim to be a libertarian while you support abusive tyrannical government while at the same time expecting that government you've invested with ridiculous power to do nothing in the face of needless and aggressive violence? Is it misanthropy? That is one of few plausible explanations...

Aggression is bad. That's what libertarians, actual ones, believe anyway.
 
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