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Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'[W:88:502]

Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

You being an anarchist.

You wanting no civilization.

And you wanting to lock women up who dare to dream of bodily sovereignty are all correct.

None of them are correct. I'm not an anarchist, I'm not against civilization, and I'm not for banning abortion.
 
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Then by all means, explain to me the exact point at which it becomes a human being worthy of protection. Week 1? 2? 4? 8? Any value you give is your opinion. Most people who support a right to an abortion agree that there should be some limit. I agree with the European model of 12 weeks. Whatever your cutoff is, it's subjective. Unless you think life begins at conception you're a murderous monster to someone else with a lower cutoff.

Again, this isn't subjective. It isn't a matter of opinion. Fertilization - the zygote stage of life. Period. Scientific fact.

What you think is "worthy of protection" is fairly subjective, however, I'm afraid.

As I am not a bigot who wants to see some innocent humans killed based on arbitrary things like their age, I don't think any human being has to do something to be "worthy of protection" other than being a human.

And no, you don't care about human life, you care about your ideology. Otherwise you wouldn't advocate for a system where those same children will be left to die because they can't afford basic medical care.

Spare me your crocodile tears, socialist. I don't know what your damage is - maybe you're one of those Malthusian environmentalist types or maybe you just hate humanity in general but unlike you I respect human rights.
 
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Mad Max Anarchistic Libertarians don't get to lecture others on morality.

You don't give a rats ass about the lives of others.

Your views on the poor paint that picture quite clearly.

This, for you and Henrin is squarely about women.

I mean a lot of things seem very "clear" to you that don't exist in reality, but when you constantly share your delusions like this it only reflects poorly on your own reliability...

I'm not an anarchist by any stretch of even the most warped imagination (such as yours) and I do care about charitable needs... while at the same time telling big government coercive redistribution types why they should go **** themselves. You think the government should unjustly steal, and I don't. That's the only difference on that score. Oh and the one where I give my money for causes and you vote for leftwing ****heads who will take other people's money by force so you don't have to be bothered.

Also, you want a special privilege for women to be allowed to kill another human being in cold blood; I don't. Not wanting the special privilege is not somehow sexist; it is you who wants the double standard. The sexism is all yours.
 
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Do you understand that people use facts in dishonest and deceive ways? Apparently not.
Yes I do and clearly you are doing exactly that.
 
Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

I seldom post in this section. I was reading this article in the sports section of MSN. Thoughts?

Ravens tight end Benjamin Watson has not hesitated to speak out on the state of race relations in the United States, but he's drawing both criticism and praise for claiming that Planned Parenthood was created to "exterminate blacks" and that "it's working."

In an interview with the Turning Point Pregnancy Resource Center, Watson, a devout Christian, said that he's puzzled by why so many blacks support Planned Parenthood.

"I do know that blacks kind of represent a large portion of the abortions, and I do know that honestly the whole idea with Planned Parenthood and (group founder Margaret) Sanger in the past was to exterminate blacks, and it’s kind of ironic that it’s working," Watson said.

"We (as minorities) support candidates, and overwhelmingly support the idea of having Planned Parenthood and the like, and yet, that is why she created it. We are buying it hook, line, and sinker, like it’s a great thing. It’s just amazing to me and abortion saddens me, period, but it seems to be something that is really pushed on minorities and provided to minorities especially as something that they should do.


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Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

Oh you want to have a discussion about the intersection between abortion rights and race?

Bring. It. On.
 
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Again, this isn't subjective. It isn't a matter of opinion. Fertilization - the zygote stage of life. Period. Scientific fact.

What you think is "worthy of protection" is fairly subjective, however, I'm afraid.

As I am not a bigot who wants to see some innocent humans killed based on arbitrary things like their age, I don't think any human being has to do something to be "worthy of protection" other than being a human.
Spare me your crocodile tears, socialist. I don't know what your damage is - maybe you're one of those Malthusian environmentalist types or maybe you just hate humanity in general but unlike you I respect human rights.

Lol, so it's like I said. As soon as a sperm enters the egg, it's a human being that deserves to be protected, but as soon as that child leaves the woman's body, you don't give one flying **** what happens to it or the mother. You'd leave them both to die if they didn't have the money for food or basic medical attention. You don't care about protecting life, you only care about yourself and your own personal opinions.
 
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Lol, so it's like I said. As soon as a sperm enters the egg, it's a human being that deserves to be protected, but as soon as that child leaves the woman's body, you don't give one flying **** what happens to it or the mother. You'd leave them both to die if they didn't have the money for food or basic medical attention. You don't care about protecting life, you only care about yourself and your own personal opinions.

Clearly you are either incapable of or unwilling to employ reading comprehension.

For the last ducking time on the off chance you feel like getting that hamster wheel running... As a socialist pro-abort you are stupidly conflating two disparate issues.

It is already illegal to kill a born human in aggression. Acknowledge this fact first.

Once you have accomplished this, then accept that I want this to be universal for all human beings. Making something a universal standard is the exact opposite of wanting to treat different elements within those parameters differently.

Once you acknowledge that as well, then stop saying the retarded things you've been saying... because there is no way you could be saying them in good faith.
 
Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

I seldom post in this section. I was reading this article in the sports section of MSN. Thoughts?

Ravens tight end Benjamin Watson has not hesitated to speak out on the state of race relations in the United States, but he's drawing both criticism and praise for claiming that Planned Parenthood was created to "exterminate blacks" and that "it's working."

In an interview with the Turning Point Pregnancy Resource Center, Watson, a devout Christian, said that he's puzzled by why so many blacks support Planned Parenthood.

"I do know that blacks kind of represent a large portion of the abortions, and I do know that honestly the whole idea with Planned Parenthood and (group founder Margaret) Sanger in the past was to exterminate blacks, and it’s kind of ironic that it’s working," Watson said.

"We (as minorities) support candidates, and overwhelmingly support the idea of having Planned Parenthood and the like, and yet, that is why she created it. We are buying it hook, line, and sinker, like it’s a great thing. It’s just amazing to me and abortion saddens me, period, but it seems to be something that is really pushed on minorities and provided to minorities especially as something that they should do.


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Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

Good thing that that we have luminaries such as Watson to tell as the real facts.
 
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Clearly you are either incapable of or unwilling to employ reading comprehension.

For the last ducking time on the off chance you feel like getting that hamster wheel running... As a socialist pro-abort you are stupidly conflating two disparate issues.

It is already illegal to kill a born human in aggression. Acknowledge this fact first.

Once you have accomplished this, then accept that I want this to be universal for all human beings. Making something a universal standard is the exact opposite of wanting to treat different elements within those parameters differently.

Once you acknowledge that as well, then stop saying the retarded things you've been saying... because there is no way you could be saying them in good faith.

So you've arbitrarily labeled the sperm-in-egg phase to be the start of human life, which is nothing more than your opinion. I find it sad that you care more about a clump of cells than an actual human being. You can rant and rave all you want, dishing out labels of "socialist" to anyone left of pure anarchy, but the simple fact of the matter is that this was already settled decades ago and we won't be revisiting it anytime soon.

You're welcome to your opinion, you're not welcome to have the government insert itself into other people's bodies in order to force that subjective opinion on others. Pardon me if I don't let myself get lectured on morality from someone who thinks poor people should be left to starve or die from easily treatable medical conditions.

You've had no problem sucking up public services your whole life but can't stand the thought of others doing the same. If you'd like to live free from the burdens of civilization you should build a shack in the woods and never come out.
 
Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

I seldom post in this section. I was reading this article in the sports section of MSN. Thoughts?

Ravens tight end Benjamin Watson has not hesitated to speak out on the state of race relations in the United States, but he's drawing both criticism and praise for claiming that Planned Parenthood was created to "exterminate blacks" and that "it's working."

In an interview with the Turning Point Pregnancy Resource Center, Watson, a devout Christian, said that he's puzzled by why so many blacks support Planned Parenthood.

"I do know that blacks kind of represent a large portion of the abortions, and I do know that honestly the whole idea with Planned Parenthood and (group founder Margaret) Sanger in the past was to exterminate blacks, and it’s kind of ironic that it’s working," Watson said.

"We (as minorities) support candidates, and overwhelmingly support the idea of having Planned Parenthood and the like, and yet, that is why she created it. We are buying it hook, line, and sinker, like it’s a great thing. It’s just amazing to me and abortion saddens me, period, but it seems to be something that is really pushed on minorities and provided to minorities especially as something that they should do.


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Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

He's free to his opinion, but he cannot possibly know the intent of planned parenthood. In fact, Ben Carson made a similar claim that was rated False:

"Birth control pioneer Margaret Sanger "believed that people like me should be eliminated."
— Ben Carson on Wednesday, September 30th, 2015 in a campaign stop in Exeter, N.H"

Because :

"At the time that Sanger was active, Engs wrote, "the purpose of eugenics was to improve the human race by having people be more healthy through exercise, recreation in parks, marriage to someone free from sexually transmitted diseases, well-baby clinics, immunizations, clean food and water, proper nutrition, non-smoking and drinking.""

About extermination, this guy is just wrong, Planned Parenthood falls far short of completely destroying blacks-

Exterminate : destroy completely

I think part of his point is reasonable: that he finds it hard to understand why other people might support planned parenthood. I find it hard to understand why someone would think that they should be able to force a woman to remain pregnant. It's often hard to understand the other side of the abortion debate.
 
Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

I seldom post in this section. I was reading this article in the sports section of MSN. Thoughts?

Ravens tight end Benjamin Watson has not hesitated to speak out on the state of race relations in the United States, but he's drawing both criticism and praise for claiming that Planned Parenthood was created to "exterminate blacks" and that "it's working."

In an interview with the Turning Point Pregnancy Resource Center, Watson, a devout Christian, said that he's puzzled by why so many blacks support Planned Parenthood.

"I do know that blacks kind of represent a large portion of the abortions, and I do know that honestly the whole idea with Planned Parenthood and (group founder Margaret) Sanger in the past was to exterminate blacks, and it’s kind of ironic that it’s working," Watson said.

"We (as minorities) support candidates, and overwhelmingly support the idea of having Planned Parenthood and the like, and yet, that is why she created it. We are buying it hook, line, and sinker, like it’s a great thing. It’s just amazing to me and abortion saddens me, period, but it seems to be something that is really pushed on minorities and provided to minorities especially as something that they should do.


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What a ridiculous claim from this athlete (who maybe has been hit in the head of few too many times looking at this comment) because PP was founded in 1916, at that time the African American population (in percentage of the US population was about 9.9% (figures of 1920) and since then this number has steadily risen to 12.6% in 2010.

So to claim that it was done to exterminate the black population is either false (and that is what I think) or PP has failed in it's mission (which is bull crap, their mission was empowering women to make their own reproductive choices with regard to birth control).
 
Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

What a ridiculous claim from this athlete (who maybe has been hit in the head of few too many times looking at this comment) because PP was founded in 1916, at that time the African American population (in percentage of the US population was about 9.9% (figures of 1920) and since then this number has steadily risen to 12.6% in 2010.

So to claim that it was done to exterminate the black population is either false (and that is what I think) or PP has failed in it's mission (which is bull crap, their mission was empowering women to make their own reproductive choices with regard to birth control).

I honestly have no idea what the US black population today has anything to do with what Watson was saying.
 
Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

Good thing that that we have luminaries such as Watson to tell as the real facts.

I took it as his opinions. He can't understand why blacks support candidates who support PP. He has his opinion, as most people do about anything, about Margaret Sanger.
 
Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

He can't understand why blacks support candidates who support PP.

If he can't figure that out, he's a damned idiot. Plain and simple.
 
Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

Okay. :shrug:

We can make a list. I'll start.

#1) PP might be the only place many black people can get to/go to for many health related issues and screenings
#2) perhaps black people are not focused solely on one specific issue
#3) perhaps black people don't like many of the positions the other candidates stand for
#4) maybe many black people actually have a brain and don't have some bizarre-o world hyper-religious view about what PP does
#5) maybe many black people aren't as stupid as he is regarding what PP does, or why
#6) maybe many black people have far more pressing concerns on their minds than abortion
#7) maybe many black people aren't paranoid delusional fools

There's a start.
 
Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

We can make a list. I'll start.

#1) PP might be the only place many black people can get to/go to for many health related issues and screenings
#2) perhaps black people are not focused solely on one specific issue
#3) perhaps black people don't like many of the positions the other candidates stand for
#4) maybe many black people actually have a brain and don't have some bizarre-o world hyper-religious view about what PP does
#5) maybe many black people aren't as stupid as he is regarding what PP does, or why
#6) maybe many black people have far more pressing concerns on their minds than abortion
#7) maybe many black people aren't paranoid delusional fools

There's a start.

I don't need a list of anything. Not sure why you did this.
 
Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

So you've arbitrarily labeled the sperm-in-egg phase to be the start of human life, which is nothing more than your opinion.

Abject ignorance. Go back to 7th grade and pay attention this time. :roll: The fertilization of a human egg cell by a human sperm cell combines the genetic materials of both haploid cells to create a new organism, a human in the zygote stage of life; the zygote stage of life is the beginning of a sexually reproducing organism's lifespan.

This is not an opinion. It is not arbitrary.

It is textbook scientific fact.

I find it sad that you care more about a clump of cells than an actual human being.

a) You're a clump of cells.
b) That younger clump at least has the potential to be a moral human being, a reasonable and rational human who can apply reading comprehension, or both, which means yes, they certainly have more value than those who lack both qualities.

If I am willing to be charitable, I will just assume you are trolling at this point.

But once again for the groundlings in the cheap seats - it is already illegal to kill a born human in aggression. Wanting this to be the same universally does not indicate caring MORE about the ones I want to extend this same protection to. You saying this stupidity over and over again only reflects poorly on you.

you're not welcome to have the government insert itself into other people's bodies

Governments should protect the natural human right to life; governments should prosecute any aggressive homicides. That is the most basic function of the most minimal state possible and you think it's tyranny somehow.

Pardon me if I don't let myself get lectured on morality from someone who thinks poor people should be left to starve or die from easily treatable medical conditions.

You get no pardon.

You need a lecture because you've taken the amoral position on two key issues, and worse you need a lecture because you're nakedly lying about my position, as already explained to you, SHOULD is a value judgement and it's not even one I hold, as I do support and engage in charitable giving.

If you were an honest and reasonable person who could employ reading comprehension, you wouldn't still be repeating this nonsense.

The only assertion I have made is that I oppose the seizure of property from one citizen by way of taxes to give those funds or just buy goods or services for someone else. Healthcare is a service, not a right. The government has no business being involved in and no business paying for healthcare.

You've had no problem sucking up public services your whole life

More defamation; spare me this Elizabeth Warren fanboy garbage.
 
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Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

I seldom post in this section. I was reading this article in the sports section of MSN. Thoughts?

Ravens tight end Benjamin Watson has not hesitated to speak out on the state of race relations in the United States, but he's drawing both criticism and praise for claiming that Planned Parenthood was created to "exterminate blacks" and that "it's working."

In an interview with the Turning Point Pregnancy Resource Center, Watson, a devout Christian, said that he's puzzled by why so many blacks support Planned Parenthood.

"I do know that blacks kind of represent a large portion of the abortions, and I do know that honestly the whole idea with Planned Parenthood and (group founder Margaret) Sanger in the past was to exterminate blacks, and it’s kind of ironic that it’s working," Watson said.

"We (as minorities) support candidates, and overwhelmingly support the idea of having Planned Parenthood and the like, and yet, that is why she created it. We are buying it hook, line, and sinker, like it’s a great thing. It’s just amazing to me and abortion saddens me, period, but it seems to be something that is really pushed on minorities and provided to minorities especially as something that they should do.


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Yeah, this is a pretty common anti-choice conspiracy theory. And it's bunk, as most conspiracy theories are, for a number of reasons.

1. Believe it or not, Sanger actually didn't even support abortion in the first place.

2. She was generally much more supportive of the black community than most other non-racial movements of the era, and both worked with them and spoke fairly well of them compared to her peers.

3. The photo "evidence" these kinds of sites use are photoshops. A quick Google will show you where they come from.

Where'd this come from?

Quote mining, pretty much. She gave a speech that said something to the effect that the reproductive care movement had to be careful not to alienate the black community, and they cut it up so that it said something like they must be careful not to let them in on their plot, or something like that.

I've done my rounds with this conspiracy many, many times.

And the fact is, even if this were somehow true, it has no relevance to what PP is today. I mean, unless we also want to say that the White House is a monument of slavery, and other such tripe.

But the fact that it's not even true and that, relative to her era, Sanger was actually fairly progressive racially speaking, is just another nail in the coffin of this. To be honest, the anti-choice orgs seem to be the most outlandish and constant liars of any movement I can think of.
 
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I took it as his opinions. He can't understand why blacks support candidates who support PP. He has his opinion, as most people do about anything, about Margaret Sanger.
Yes I see no fault in what you did. As for his opinion, I think that he is part of reason we have the saying that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and most stink. Has he spoken about football I certainly would have deferred to him as a person with vastly greater experience than I in the matter. On thins matter, he is just piling on to the problem so many celebrities create in speaking about what they know little to nothing.
 
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Well, by that same logic, the United States was created on the backs of black slave labor and the subjugation of blacks. Maybe Ben Watson should be anti-American.
The % of people who were slave owners was so small its hardly something even worth mentioning being a part of our history.... [emoji41]

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Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

I never said it was "perfectly fine," socialist, as that is a value judgement beyond simply noting what are the appropriate limits of state power.

Charity and altruism are still good and desirable things; state coerced seizure of property removes any aspect of moral good from the equation - you have to give that money to them or they come after you with force.




Deliberately and aggressively killing another human being in cold blood has nothing to do with "your own body." I wish you pro-aborts would get some fresh lies because you're all quite stale at this point.

Why do you claim to be a libertarian while you support abusive tyrannical government while at the same time expecting that government you've invested with ridiculous power to do nothing in the face of needless and aggressive violence? Is it misanthropy? That is one of few plausible explanations...

Aggression is bad. That's what libertarians, actual ones, believe anyway.
Are you against abortion in all circumstances?

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Re: Benjamin Watson: Planned Parenthood founded to 'exterminate blacks'

I honestly have no idea what the US black population today has anything to do with what Watson was saying.

Really? He said that PP was meant to exterminate blacks "and that it was working". Well, if it were working, the several percentage growth in the US black population (both in percentage of the population as in raw numbers) does rather disprove that claim of him about the "extermination of African Americans".
 
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