Belarus has introduced a tax on Muscovite imperial oil transit through its territory

Litwin · Jan 10, 2020

Juchi mongol imperialist fu&k with the wrong people this time, eace :lamo

Belarus has introduced a tax on Muscovite imperial oil transit through its territory
Alexander Lukashenka signed a decree that introduced an environmental tax on oil transit through the territory of Belarus. It is reported by the press service of the State.

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Fledermaus · Jan 10, 2020

Litwin said:
Juchi mongol imperialist fu&k with the wrong people this time, eace :lamo

Juchi/Jochi died centuries ago
The Mongols ceased to be relevant to Russia centuries ago.

Why do you insist on calling Russia by historically incorrect or obsolete names?

Litwin · Jan 11, 2020

Fledermaus said:
Juchi/Jochi died centuries ago

its a myth, whats about base of every country , from of governance . what can you say about from of governance in Muscovy (rf) and in ulus of juchi ? is it the same one ? great khans (alternative name the czars) rule despotically over hordes of bydlo (slaves) ?

Fledermaus · Jan 11, 2020

Litwin said:
its a myth, whats about base of every country , from of governance . what can you say about from of governance in Muscovy (rf) and in ulus of juchi ? is it the same one ? great khans (alternative name the czars) rule despotically over hordes of bydlo (slaves) ?

There is no myth.

Muscovy wasn't the Ulus of Juchi. Muscovy paid the Golden Horde tribute. As did many in the area. Much of what is now Russia did. Including the Kievian Rus. Including Novgorad. That does not make them the same.

And once Muscovy rebelled against the remains of the Horde and absorbed the remains of the Kievian Rus they became the Russian Empire. Completely different.

And the term Tsar/Czar comes from Ceasar by way of the Byzantine Empire. Not the Mongol Khan.

You fail again at history.

Litwin · Jan 11, 2020

Fledermaus said:
There is no myth.

Muscovy wasn't the Ulus of Juchi. Muscovy paid the Golden Horde tribute. ..

was northern part of it , after collapse of Sarai step economy (and Juchi empire) in 16-19 centuries Muscovy ulus (czardum) took over other khanates (tsardoms ), paying taxis to the legal Juchi successor "1783, the longest-lived of the Turkic khanates that succeeded the empire of the Golden Horde. "
tribute this how mongols called taxis

Fledermaus · Jan 11, 2020

Litwin said:
was northern part of it , after collapse of Sarai step economy (and Juchi empire) in 16-19 centuries Muscovy ulus (czardum) took over other khanates (tsardoms ), paying taxis to the legal Juchi successor "1783, the longest-lived of the Turkic khanates that succeeded the empire of the Golden Horde. "
tribute this how mongols called taxis

Paying tribute to an invader isn't the same as being the invader.

Muscovy was a principality that paid the Horde.... Until they rebelled.

Muscovy ceased to exist when it became the TSARDOM OF RUSSIA followed by RUSSIAN empire.

Khanates were Khanates. Tsardom wasn't Khanates. It was Tsardom.

Tsar was never Khan. Khan was never Tsar.

You fail history.

Litwin · Jan 11, 2020

Fledermaus said:
Paying tribute to an invader isn't the same as being the invader.

....

a 19c German/Stainist myth, today rejected even by MGU, which is N1 Maskal historical authority in Muscovite ulus

Fledermaus · Jan 11, 2020

Litwin said:
a 19c German/Stainist myth, today rejected even by MGU, which is N1 Maskal historical authority in Muscovite ulus

Does not change anything I said.

Litwin · Jan 11, 2020

Fledermaus said:
Does not change anything I said.

step by step: do you agree that Crimean czars succeeded the empire of the ulus of Juchi (Golden Horde)? and Muscovite pseudo - czars (great khans ) could not (according law ) rule as independent czars ?

Fledermaus · Jan 11, 2020

Litwin said:
step by step: do you agree that Crimean czars succeeded the empire of the ulus of Juchi (Golden Horde)? and Muscovite pseudo - czars (great khans ) could not (according law ) rule as independent czars ?

Paying tribute does not equate to being someone.

There was no "Muscovite pseudo Tsar" nor does that have anything to do with Khans and certainly not the Great Khan who was Mongol.

You here was no "Crimean Tsar"

A RUSSIAN Tsar did later take over the Crimean KHANATE.

Why do you fail so badly at history?

Fledermaus · Jan 11, 2020

Litwin said:
step by step: do you agree that Crimean czars succeeded the empire of the ulus of Juchi (Golden Horde)? and Muscovite pseudo - czars (great khans ) could not (according law ) rule as independent czars ?

Let's take it one step at a time.

Tsar has nothing to do with Khan.

Litwin · Jan 11, 2020

Fledermaus said:
...

You here was no "Crimean Tsar"

...

and this what historical sources say to low educated people

year 1552

"«А как крымской царь приходил, и на Сенкине перевозе стояли по сю сторону Оки двести человек детей боярских. И Теребердей мурза с нагайскими тотары пришол на Сенкин перевоз в ночи и тех детей боярских розогнали и розгромили и плетени ис подкопов выняли да перешли на сю сторону Оки реки»."
Битва при Молодях — Википедия

Fledermaus · Jan 11, 2020

Litwin said:
and this what historical sources say to low educated people

year 1552

"«А как крымской царь приходил, и на Сенкине перевозе стояли по сю сторону Оки двести человек детей боярских. И Теребердей мурза с нагайскими тотары пришол на Сенкин перевоз в ночи и тех детей боярских розогнали и розгромили и плетени ис подкопов выняли да перешли на сю сторону Оки реки»."
Битва при Молодях — Википедия

The Crimean KHANATE was ruled by a Crimean KHAN.

KHAN =/= TSAR

Litwin · Jan 14, 2020

great khan = czar= golden kin , but i know you will never get it its the academical level

Belarus has introduced a tax on Muscovite imperial oil transit through its territory

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